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Old 10th October 2015, 19:46   #2116
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I was in market for used Jetta. I liked one. I used the VIN to check whether it has the cheat device. VW page says its there. Now what ?

It shouldn't affect me right if i buy it ?
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But the most premium car in that house doesn't!

Imagine not being able to pair your phone to the head-unit via bluetooth. How stupid, how foolish. While his wife & Dad enjoy streaming music & hands-free telephony, Nick has to use an AUX cable to connect.
On a similar note my even costlier, apparently luxurious car for most Indians, the BMW 320d doesn't gave Bluetooth streaming for music. It doesn't even get the vanity mirror light for heaven's sake. Doubt how much money they saved by skipping on these.
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Imagine not being able to pair your phone to the head-unit via bluetooth. How stupid, how foolish. While his wife & Dad enjoy streaming music & hands-free telephony, Nick has to use an AUX cable to connect his iPhone to the head-unit. Yes, his 18 lakh Jetta doesn't even have a USB port!
Unfortunatey in India, Jetta is priced way about global market and affordability pushes it to a market who can spend on their own BT device for extra money. Yes fact is they could have added that into the selling price but after sales extras makes money for them as well.

The German companies are enjoying the most exorbitant robbery from India. On the same note even the India made maruthis costs are actually way over priced compared to cars of similar or better nature outside the country.

A kia sedan (rio) is so cheap yet has more features than an SX4.

The local manufacturers to me are not even passing on the benefits of local manufacturing to the Indian consumers. No wonder these german manufacturers are taking the customers for a ride.

Luckily we have people who can afford and feed these car companies to exploit.
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A premium car should be such that it doesn't get outdated even after 5 years. Obviously, short-sighted VW doesn't get that.

My best friend Nick bought a Jetta Comfortline 3 years back for 18 lakhs. At that time, a 10 lakh Vento had a bluetooth head-unit, but VW only offered it in the Jetta Highline. What a bunch of nincompoops.
Are you sure the Highline Jetta had BT? I'm asking because Ajit's car is highline and it doesn't have it either!!

He uses a BT unit on the sun visor.
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My best friend Nick bought a Jetta Comfortline 3 years back for 18 lakhs. At that time, a 10 lakh Vento had a bluetooth head-unit, but VW only offered it in the Jetta Highline. What a bunch of nincompoops.
My neighbors 2 year old top of the line Jetta HL AT costing ~22 L OTR is not having an auto climate control while my 10.5 L OTR Vento Comfortline have one; no wonder they were pissed off with VW for that!

Though I can confirm that it has the steering mounted bluetooth control where as mine does not have it.
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I guess VW learnt their lesson. My Jetta Highline has Bluetooth, auto climate control, lit vanity mirrors both on driver's and passenger's side, rear centre arm rest with cupholders, power outlet for rear passengers, adjustable driver's arm rest.

What it does not have is a USB port. Instead they give this stupid Media port inside the glove compartment.

And incidentally, as I just posted in another VW thread here, my car does not show up as affected on the Germany and UK sites. Go figure!

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Are you sure the Highline Jetta had BT? I'm asking because Ajit's car is highline and it doesn't have it either!!

He uses a BT unit on the sun visor.
BT came a little later with the adjustable armrest. But they removed a couple of airbags at the back.
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A premium car should be such that it doesn't get outdated even after 5 years. Obviously, short-sighted VW doesn't get that.

My best friend Nick bought a Jetta Comfortline 3 years back for 18 lakhs. At that time, a 10 lakh Vento had a bluetooth head-unit, but VW only offered it in the Jetta Highline. What a bunch of nincompoops.

Nick bought a Grand i10 for his wife last year and it has more equipment than his Jetta (including bluetooth functionality). We picked up a Bolt for his Dad today and it has bluetooth. But the most premium car in that house doesn't!

Imagine not being able to pair your phone to the head-unit via bluetooth. How stupid, how foolish. While his wife & Dad enjoy streaming music & hands-free telephony, Nick has to use an AUX cable to connect his iPhone to the head-unit. Yes, his 18 lakh Jetta doesn't even have a USB port!
Has Nick tried one of these products?

http://www.amazon.in/Quace-Bluetooth...productDetails

http://www.amazon.in/Musesonic-Bluet...productDetails

He should have a 30 pin IPod dock in the glove compartment, just stick this adapter into that socket, and I am guessing his bluetooth should be good to go.

Having spent 18 lakh on the car, might as well drop 1.5 k on this thingy. Much better than being scorned on by wife and father, methinks.

Of course, I entirely agree with the sentiment that it's bizarre for such premium cars to not offer stuff like this in the package.
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A kia sedan (rio) is so cheap yet has more features than an SX4.

The local manufacturers to me are not even passing on the benefits of local manufacturing to the Indian consumers. No wonder these german manufacturers are taking the customers for a ride.

Luckily we have people who can afford and feed these car companies to exploit.
Please take into account the amount of taxation in India. The only tax you pay for a car in US is the 6-7 local sales tax. The road tax/registration is yearly and not like here.

In India, for cars made in India, you have a 12-30% excise duty. Jetta probably falls in the 27% excise duty slab. If it is CKD, then customs duty I believe is 30%. Add 14.5% VAT on top of that. Add 15-20 % road tax on top of that and you are where you are. The price of car sans the duties is very close to what one pays in the US for the same car. For jetta HL that would be around 13-15 L which is the same price as in US at the current exchange rates.
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the BMW 320d doesn't gave Bluetooth streaming for music.
I just don't agree with this nonsense. Even the 4 lakh Kwid comes with Bluetooth!

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Are you sure the Highline Jetta had BT? I'm asking because Ajit's car is highline and it doesn't have it either!!
Ah, my bad. USB, his car doesn't even have USB (Jetta Highline offered it at the time).

But even today, the dimwits provide Bluetooth ONLY on the Jetta Highline.

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He should have a 30 pin IPod dock in the glove compartment, just stick this adapter into that socket, and I am guessing his bluetooth should be good to go.
No USB port in his car :(.
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No USB port in his car :(.
No USB, no problem. The link I sent you is to connect to the 30-pin Ipod dock. See the image below from our official review (post #3 on this thread).

The bluetooth dongle should connect with that. Similarly he shouls also be able to get Ipod to USB adapters, in case he wanted it.
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Can you elaborate on this w.r.t. Jetta variant, engine details and maybe share the VIN page with the "cheat device" description.

It is my understanding that the 1.9 TDi engine that was/is sold here does not belong to the series that were 'fixed' but then one learns something new every day.

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I was in market for used Jetta. I liked one. I used the VIN to check whether it has the cheat device. VW page says its there. Now what ?

It shouldn't affect me right if i buy it ?
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Can you elaborate on this w.r.t. Jetta variant, engine details and maybe share the VIN page with the "cheat device" description.

It is my understanding that the 1.9 TDi engine that was/is sold here does not belong to the series that were 'fixed' but then one learns something new every day.
This is May 2012 Highline AT model.
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Well for all its lack of soft features compared to a car much lower down the rung we still went for it and hail it .. and we all know why. Agree it could have had USB, Bluetooth to sweeten things up but I don't think this would have been a decider else most of us would have an elantra, where you can control your music from the rear armrest and air condition your self through the seats.
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Well for all its lack of soft features compared to a car much lower down the rung we still went for it and hail it .. and we all know why. Agree it could have had USB, Bluetooth to sweeten things up but I don't think this would have been a decider else most of us would have an elantra, where you can control your music from the rear armrest and air condition your self through the seats.
So true. Sometimes I feel the same way about the lack of features. I even would want to write a letter to VW on the potential of a luxury line jetta! Then I close that heavy door and start driving and it puts a grin on my face.. everytime!
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