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Old 16th October 2013, 19:00   #4981
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This is a known issue with the mhawk clutch. Mahindra being the cheap company it is refuses to do a recall and replace the flawed part with the redesigned one. Leaving many us to deal with failues/break downs.

More about this issue can be read in my thread.
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...reak-down.html (Scorpio Mhawk Clutch Failure & Break Down)
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You are absolutely right this is the problem carried over from the Scorpio, which is absolutely atrocious. Also in the XUV the entire gearbox has to be lowered to change this part, which is just bad engineering.
If this is the case, i am wondering how much would this cost us once warranty is over?
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If this is the case, i am wondering how much would this cost us once warranty is over?
When it was changed in my vehicle, it took them 2 days of labor, the left suspension had to be completely removed, then the clutch cover and lastly the gearbox was dismounted. The warranty bill i signed off contained Rs.20000+ (I insisted on changing all things related to this part) worth of labor + parts as break-up. So thats the kind of cost we would be looking at in case it goes kaput after warranty. Also, this is not some ordinary glitch like the LED fusing that we can afford to ignore after warranty, this is something that has to be corrected for us to continue using the vehicle.

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When it was changed in my vehicle, it took them 2 days of labor, the left suspension had to be completely removed, then the clutch cover and lastly the gearbox was dismounted. The warranty bill i signed off contained Rs.20000+ (I insisted on changing all things related to this part) worth of labor + parts as break-up. So thats the kind of cost we would be looking at in case it goes kaput after warranty. Also, this is not some ordinary glitch like the LED fusing that we can afford to ignore after warranty, this is something that has to be corrected for us to continue using the vehicle.
WOW 20K. Well i totally agree with you, this is a serious issue. Also there is no guaranty that this replaced part will not fail again.
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There is no guaranty that this replaced part will not fail again.
Please dont add oil to the fire. .
Let us see how XUV500 fares this festive season vis-a-vis other cross overs.
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The fact of the matter is that XUV is a decent product from a customer centric manufacturer (pre-sales & after-sales experience for me). The parts quality is suspect even though they are from reputed vendors like Bosch, BWA, Philips, etc, and sometimes the dealer does not play ball if you are not firm with them or if you show yourself as ignorant.

I am just back from a solo trip of 1200 kms to Rameshwaram. Did a unhurried trip, was in cruise mode most of the way. Did not exceed 120 and was not below 100, got a infotainment mileage of 17.2 and tankful measure yielded 15.3. The brakes with the new pads and pedal felt a whole lot better and measured up well in a couple of hard braking occasions.

Feel completely fresh after the journey, nil body pain i used to feel when i did long trips in my i10. The comfort and confidence this vehicle gives in the highways is unparalleled. I have one more year of warranty left. Fingers crossed.
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The fact of the matter is that XUV is a decent product from a customer centric manufacturer (pre-sales & after-sales experience for me). The parts quality is suspect even though they are from reputed vendors like Bosch, BWA, Philips, etc, and sometimes the dealer does not play ball if you are not firm with them or if you show yourself as ignorant.

I am just back from a solo trip of 1200 kms to Rameshwaram. Did a unhurried trip, was in cruise mode most of the way. Did not exceed 120 and was not below 100, got a infotainment mileage of 17.2 and tankful measure yielded 15.3. The brakes with the new pads and pedal felt a whole lot better and measured up well in a couple of hard braking occasions.

Feel completely fresh after the journey, nil body pain i used to feel when i did long trips in my i10. The comfort and confidence this vehicle gives in the highways is unparalleled. I have one more year of warranty left. Fingers crossed.
No doubt its best suited for highway driving. I love it everyday when i take it out on highway.
Mine too one year left of warranty, all 20 fingers crossed
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WOW 20K. Well i totally agree with you, this is a serious issue. Also there is no guaranty that this replaced part will not fail again.
Can someone shed some light on whether the replaced cltuch assembly is a redesigned one or the same as in the previous model. Or whether M&M has made any modifications to the clutch assembly and if yes, then from which lot onwards this new clutch assembly is present in XUV? Asking 'cause I'm looking at an used XUV of end 2012 make and want to be sure that the clutch would not give way in the middle of nowhere.
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Also in the XUV the entire gearbox has to be lowered to change this part, which is just bad engineering.
The Gearbox has to be removed in the Scorpio as well. In my particular case since it was 4WD, the Transfer case and front propeller shaft also has to be removed. In the XUV, it it is more complicated due the Transverse mounted engine & gearbox.

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Can someone shed some light on whether the replaced cltuch assembly is a redesigned one or the same as in the previous model.
There is no problem with clutch plates, or release bearings etc. The issue is with the slave cylinder which packs up without any warning thereby giving you no clutch pedal. Mahindra slightly modified the slave cylinder to add a dust cap. However, since there is a huge labor cost to change a 500 rupee part, they are not issuing a recall, but letting the customer deal with the problems.
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Mahindra slightly modified the slave cylinder to add a dust cap. However, since there is a huge labor cost to change a 500 rupee part, they are not issuing a recall, but letting the customer deal with the problems.
Can you confirm since when this new slave cylinder has been put in XUVs? And whether the new slave cylinder has solved this major issue?

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I was told by sales manager in chennai at the dealership that the whole assembly was changed or rather upgraded sometime at the end of last year. This can be verified by a news snippet in the autocar magazine march or April issue (sorry not sure which). It was further perfected to is present state in June of this year. Therefore the less number of complaints from vehicles manufactured Dec 2012 onwards.
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Can you confirm since when this new slave cylinder has been put in XUVs? And whether the new slave cylinder has solved this major issue?
My first failure was at about 30K kms, next one at 45K kilometers. Got stranded both times. The second time around they put the new part slave cylinder with the dust cap. I since sold the scorpio at about 60k kms and the current owner has done about 75K with no issues, so looks like the problem has been rectified.

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Therefore the less number of complaints from vehicles manufactured Dec 2012 onwards.
This is good news for new owners, however everyone who has the mhawk engine from 2009/2010 until 2013 is driving a vehicle which will leave them stranded any time possibly with family at the middle of the night. So, shouldn't mahindra issue a recall for a part that is 100% sure to fail??

If anyone is buying a used mhawk Scorpio or used xuv should confirm that the slave cylinder has been upgraded otherwise it will be a 10k to 15k bill when it happens, not to mention the towing charges and taxi charges to get your family to your destination. I paid 7K to rent a Tavera to get my family to my home. Luckily I had a driver who stayed back with the vehicle. The nearest Mahindra dealer was two hours away. It took them couple of hours to arrange a two vehicle and come to the Scorpio.

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Almost there to get black hawk home - w8 fwd. any tips on what I must watch out when I pick up the car. Experts please advice.
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Almost there to get black hawk home - w8 fwd. any tips on what I must watch out when I pick up the car. Experts please advice.
Please carry the TBhp checklist and tick all the boxes, there is nothing more you should need, and yes, try and see if you can get some information on when the W4 is launching. That launch is going to set the Cheetah amongst the Pigeons
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Can the XUV5OO play in the mud and have some off-roading fun?
Most of us (including me) would say..NO!

A XUV-Owner Suraj Navle thinks otherwise and apparently indulges in offroading with his XUV often. (And before you ask, nothing has broken or came off till now ).

Here's a pic that he shared:
Mahindra XUV500 : Test Drive & Review-xuv-offroad-dirty.jpg

Photo Credit: Suraj Navle.

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Wow, that pic is amazing Sanjay! Have more? Please share
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