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Old 10th December 2015, 20:04   #7636
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1. my infotainment system does not recognize some USBs, the dealer has agreed to replace the whole unit when I take her for the third service.
2. The clutch feels hard in city traffic. Will ask the A.S.S guys to take a look at that as well
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I had the same issue with the clutch, and the A.S.S. guys said they can't do anything about it. Changing the seat position helped, and I guess over a period of time some hitherto unused muscle groups got trained to deal with the clutch issue.
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I had the same issue with the clutch, and the A.S.S. guys said they can't do anything about it. Changing the seat position helped, and I guess over a period of time some hitherto unused muscle groups got trained to deal with the clutch issue.
The service guys @ TVS, Trivandrum had checked the clutch once, and they mentioned that they will check it again if the issue persists during the 20K service. I'm not very sure changing the seat position will help me - the clutch is already a bit heavy and has a long throw. This issue occurs only during constant use of the clutch - in city traffic.
Very recently, a slight jerk is also felt when I release the clutch - this is intermittent, and happens when I shift from 1st to second gear. Need to check that as well.

There is a long standing niggle though - when I shift from first to second gear, I hear a "thud" sound - it seems to be coming from the rear. The sound is only heard when shifting from first to second !!! I had posted a query in the XUV500 niggles thread sometime back, but it seems nobody else is facing this specific issue. As always, I have now got used to that sound.

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There is a long standing niggle though - when I shift from first to second gear, I hear a "thud" sound - it seems to be coming from the rear. The sound is only heard when shifting from first to second !!! I had posted a query in the XUV500 niggles thread sometime back, but it seems nobody else is facing this specific issue. As always, I have now got used to that sound.



-Vivek

I hear a "thud" sound too when moving very slowly in bumper to bumper traffic while changing from 1st to 2nd gear. It seems it comes from the rear as you mentioned but not sure if this is an issue.

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I hear a "thud" sound too when moving very slowly in bumper to bumper traffic while changing from 1st to 2nd gear. It seems it comes from the rear as you mentioned but not sure if this is an issue.
Exactly, exactly. In my case,
- the sound is very much audible
- sound occurs only when I release the clutch after gear shift
- heard only for the shift from first to second gear
- also gets a slight "thud" feeling in my left leg when the sound is heard,
- happens in bumper to bumper traffic when clutch is used frequently
- sound is apparently from the rear

These are the exact symptoms !! Nowadays, I seem to have got used to it, and don't bother about that - although initially it was really annoying.


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Exactly, exactly. In my case,

Regarding "thud" sound, what I feel it is fuel movement sound when fuel moves inside the tank and comes only when fuel tank is 3/4 or 1/2 filled. Not coming if tank is full or very less.

Can anybody also observes it and confirmed?

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Exactly, exactly. In my case,
- the sound is very much audible
- sound occurs only when I release the clutch after gear shift
- heard only for the shift from first to second gear
- also gets a slight "thud" feeling in my left leg when the sound is heard,
- happens in bumper to bumper traffic when clutch is used frequently
- sound is apparently from the rear

These are the exact symptoms !! Nowadays, I seem to have got used to it, and don't bother about that - although initially it was really annoying.


-Vivek
I feel it is the sound of the clutch engaging. The drivetrain engages with an impact leading to the metallic thud sound. try releasing the clutch more gradually and check
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Regarding "thud" sound, what I feel it is fuel movement sound when fuel moves inside the tank and comes only when fuel tank is 3/4 or 1/2 filled. Not coming if tank is full or very less.

Can anybody also observes it and confirmed?
Fuel sloshing in the tank should not create a 'thud' sound. The XUV500 has a 'twin-hulled-boat' kind of shape, and I have no idea what impact this has on the sloshing.

Also, Vivek had mentioned that he could feel it in the left leg, which points to a possible issue with the drive train and/or suspension. I have not encountered this in my vehicle (11000km on the ODO).

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Regarding "thud" sound, what I feel it is fuel movement sound when fuel moves inside the tank and comes only when fuel tank is 3/4 or 1/2 filled. Not coming if tank is full or very less.

Can anybody also observes it and confirmed?
Dear bp74, I don't think it is because of the fuel level. Because, I had faced this during a long trip as well, when I had to go through city traffic on the way - at that time the tank was almost full.

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I feel it is the sound of the clutch engaging. The drivetrain engages with an impact leading to the metallic thud sound. try releasing the clutch more gradually and check
Yes, I had read about that possibility in some of the forums. I usually release the clutch gradually (not because of this sound, but my driving habit only) - still I can hear this sound. Let me check again during this weekend for the occurrence of the sound and will update

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Fuel sloshing in the tank should not create a 'thud' sound. The XUV500 has a 'twin-hulled-boat' kind of shape, and I have no idea what impact this has on the sloshing.

Also, Vivek had mentioned that he could feel it in the left leg, which points to a possible issue with the drive train and/or suspension. I have not encountered this in my vehicle (11000km on the ODO).

Tx.
Thanks arao, mine is around 18.5K on the odo. This behavior has been there from the beginning. The problem is I have difficulty in convincing the service center people, since the sound is not very loud. Anyway, I'll talk to them and ask them to check suspension/drivetrain when I take her for the 20K service.

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I hear a "thud" sound too when moving very slowly in bumper to bumper traffic while changing from 1st to 2nd gear. It seems it comes from the rear as you mentioned but not sure if this is an issue.
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Dear bp74, I don't think it is because of the fuel level. Because, I had faced this during a long trip as well, when I had to go through city traffic on the way - at that time the tank was almost full.
I too face this issue. But I had thought that this has to do with the fuel movement, because there it comes from the rear and there is nothing else that moves around. And the sound comes after a while the clutch is engaged and also when the car comes to a stop after braking (clutch disengaged all the while). The delayed sound makes me think that it is the fuel.
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I too face this issue. But I had thought that this has to do with the fuel movement, because there it comes from the rear and there is nothing else that moves around. And the sound comes after a while the clutch is engaged and also when the car comes to a stop after braking (clutch disengaged all the while). The delayed sound makes me think that it is the fuel.
Mine seems to be slightly different - the sound is heard when the car is on the move - sequence of events is like this -

- depress the clutch fully
- shift from first to second gear
- (I hear the sound almost immediately after slotting the gear to second)
- release the clutch

I'll verify this sequence once again when I take him out in city traffic this evening

-Vivek
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Mine seems to be slightly different - the sound is heard when the car is on the move - sequence of events is like this -

- depress the clutch fully
- shift from first to second gear
- (I hear the sound almost immediately after slotting the gear to second)
- release the clutch

I'll verify this sequence once again when I take him out in city traffic this evening

-Vivek
I have not faced this problem in my new cheetah, but my two cents on this.
Since it isn't fuel in the tank sloshing around and it definitely isn't the clutch have you ruled out the muffler & silencer. This issue was there in my Indica and it went off after I changed the rubber hooks which anchor the silencer to the underbody, also there is a ring where the silencer & muffler join (in Indica there is one but I have no idea abut the cheetah please confirm from your service mgr) there was excessive play in the joint because of this ring being loose and there was a thud sound whenever the clutch engaged. The A.S.S just wound some heat tape/asbestos rope around the ring for a tight fit. I haven't heard the sound again.
Please see if this solves your issue.
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There is a long standing niggle though - when I shift from first to second gear, I hear a "thud" sound - it seems to be coming from the rear. The sound is only heard when shifting from first to second !!! I had posted a query in the XUV500 niggles thread sometime back, but it seems nobody else is facing this specific issue. As always, I have now got used to that sound.
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I hear a "thud" sound too when moving very slowly in bumper to bumper traffic while changing from 1st to 2nd gear. It seems it comes from the rear as you mentioned but not sure if this is an issue.
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Exactly, exactly. In my case,
- the sound is very much audible
- sound occurs only when I release the clutch after gear shift
- heard only for the shift from first to second gear
- also gets a slight "thud" feeling in my left leg when the sound is heard,
- happens in bumper to bumper traffic when clutch is used frequently
- sound is apparently from the rear
-Vivek
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I too face this issue. But I had thought that this has to do with the fuel movement, because there it comes from the rear and there is nothing else that moves around. And the sound comes after a while the clutch is engaged and also when the car comes to a stop after braking (clutch disengaged all the while). The delayed sound makes me think that it is the fuel.
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Mine seems to be slightly different - the sound is heard when the car is on the move - sequence of events is like this -

- depress the clutch fully
- shift from first to second gear
- (I hear the sound almost immediately after slotting the gear to second)
- release the clutch

I'll verify this sequence once again when I take him out in city traffic this evening

-Vivek
Hey Guys,

I have not experienced this problem yet but if the sound comes only when you shift from first to second gear in bumper to bumper traffic then I may have a solution that works for you.

Here's what I usually do in bumper to bumper traffic especially if the clutch needs to be continuously engaged:
1. I NEVER slot it into first gear.
2. Gradually/Slowly disengage the clutch while in second gear so that the engine doesn't switch off (no need to press the accelerator) and the car moves. I press the accelerator, if required, only after the clutch has been completely disengaged in the second gear.
3. If you need to halt completely, put the car in neutral and when you are ready to move engage the second gear directly and repeat the steps above.

Since you are never in first gear, you should never hear the 'thud'. This should work at least till M&M find the root cause of the problem and come up with a fix.

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I have not faced this problem in my new cheetah, but my two cents on this.
Since it isn't fuel in the tank sloshing around and it definitely isn't the clutch have you ruled out the muffler & silencer. This issue was there in my Indica and it went off after I changed the rubber hooks which anchor the silencer to the underbody, also there is a ring where the silencer & muffler join (in Indica there is one but I have no idea abut the cheetah please confirm from your service mgr) there was excessive play in the joint because of this ring being loose and there was a thud sound whenever the clutch engaged. The A.S.S just wound some heat tape/asbestos rope around the ring for a tight fit. I haven't heard the sound again.
Please see if this solves your issue.
Thanks RajeVenu - will check with the service advisor during the 20K service - probably sometime end of this month or early next month.

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Hey Guys,

Here's what I usually do in bumper to bumper traffic especially if the clutch needs to be continuously engaged:

.....

Since you are never in first gear, you should never hear the 'thud'. This should work at least till M&M find the root cause of the problem and come up with a fix.

Cheers
Thanks Achyu. I'm ok with slotting in second gear and trying to move the vehicle - but one doubt - will it not unnecessarily strain the clutch and shorten its life?
In my case, the sound is not loud, it is a mild thud which I can also feel in my left leg (sound is heard only after driving for some time in bumper to bumper traffic). But, you need to listen carefully (normally, I can't hear the sound when playing music - so you got what I mean) to catch that sound. One thing I'm not sure is whether this sound is due to some mechanical failure or transmission issues - which has the potential to cause problems in the long run.

-Vivek
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In my case, the sound is not loud, it is a mild thud which I can also feel in my left leg (sound is heard only after driving for some time in bumper to bumper traffic). But, you need to listen carefully (normally, I can't hear the sound when playing music - so you got what I mean) to catch that sound. One thing I'm not sure is whether this sound is due to some mechanical failure or transmission issues - which has the potential to cause problems in the long run.

-Vivek
Check whether this noise is from the clutch pedal spring. This noise is a damped "ting" kind of sound. You can check for this sound in static condition as well.

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Thanks Achyu. I'm ok with slotting in second gear and trying to move the vehicle - but one doubt - will it not unnecessarily strain the clutch and shorten its life?
I don't think so. It is the same mechanism as with the first gear. Simply disengage it in a gradual manner. Your car should move and not even vibrate. As long as you don't press the accelerator at the same time, you should be fine.

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