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Old 1st April 2014, 22:38   #2491
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Let us all meet. I too have a pearl white storme. BTW where do I order the stickers?
At top right corner of this page there its mentioned- store. You can order stickers and key chain via that.

Yes, Gurgaon-fbd road is the best in the NCR if you love to drive.
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Lovely it must be to live in a place where you ca do that during your daily commute. There's just a couple of short bursts where I can hit 80+ and 100+ only briefly on the last flyover before getting back into dirty heavy crawly traffic.
The beauty of this beast is when you have crossed 1700rpm in 5th. After that, the turbo kicks in smoothly and needle just keeps on climbing without a gap. Unfortunately, you can enjoy it only if you are on an open road. 2000rpm in 5th is just above 100kmph. 80kmph in 5th is just 1800rpm, where you don't even hear the engine. It feels too slow. Add to that the reasonably good handling and progressive brakes and it becomes difficult to be just pottering around at 60 or 70kmph. I definitely enjoy the drive to work everyday. Also, it has cut my driving time by 15 minutes as compared to my earlier Aveo. The DICOR (and the 3L and the TCIC) were always considered to be very good highway cruisers and niw the Storme has just taken that more than a couple of notches higher. It is definitely an evolutionary product that works well.
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and I see you everyday during my office commute from Faridabad to Gurgaon. Off late have started to see a lot of Stormes on the highway, a few months more and I will join you with my beast on the road.
yeah i know its pearl white, initially yours was probably the only Storme on the highway, I am in a silver Ritz and me too dont have TBHP stickers. Waiting to get my beast and then buy them for it. Sure lets plan a meeting, chai on the highway.
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The beauty of this beast is when you have crossed 1700rpm in 5th. After that, the turbo kicks in smoothly and needle just keeps on climbing without a gap. Unfortunately, you can enjoy it only if you are on an open road. 2000rpm in 5th is just above 100kmph. 80kmph in 5th is just 1800rpm, where you don't even hear the engine. It feels too slow. Add to that the reasonably good handling and progressive brakes and it becomes difficult to be just pottering around at 60 or 70kmph. I definitely enjoy the drive to work everyday. Also, it has cut my driving time by 15 minutes as compared to my earlier Aveo. The DICOR (and the 3L and the TCIC) were always considered to be very good highway cruisers and niw the Storme has just taken that more than a couple of notches higher. It is definitely an evolutionary product that works well.
All points agreed to. I've said it before - 3rd and 5th are the free-er more open gears feel-wise on the Storme, while the respective just-below gears, 2nd and 4th, are comparitively less so.

You are really blessed to have a free open commute to work man. Most of us struggle in city traffic and the Storme still manfully tries its best to make its owner comfortable and coseted from the teeming urban rush hour surge outside.

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AMC Choice - SILVER 4 years/50,000 kms (Rs. 16,055/-) or GOLD 4 years/40,000 kms (Rs. 19,895/-)

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45,000 km Service (covered in SILVER, not covered in GOLD)

Oil 2500
Oil Filter 500
Fuel Filter 2200
Gear Oil 900
Air Filter 900
Wheel Alignment 650
Wheel Balancing 750
Weights 200
Consumables 200
Labour 1450

TOTAL 10,250

Wear and Tear Part Replacements expected/possible up to 4 years/40,000 kms (covered in GOLD, not covered in SILVER)

Brake pads (with labor) 11,000
Suspension Bushes 8,000
Wiper Blades set (front/rear) 1,000
Belts (x2) 1,000
Bulbs (headlight, tail light, etc.) 1,000

The above are what will more than 95% need replacement at 4 years or 40,000 kms mark and will be replaced for sure

TOTAL 22,000

Clutch (only plates - either wear and tear or burned out - both covered) 15,000
Clutch (plates + bearing/bell?) 22-25,000

The above may or may not need replacement depending on usage and condition.

Looks like it makes sense to shift to the Gold AMC even if it does not cover the 45,000 km service.

Do you guys agree with the above working and decision process?
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Doc, with those calculations, even if one goes for Gold AMC @ 4/ 50000 km for about 39k, it still would cover the cost of the AMC. Not to forget the first two services @ 15k & 30k which would come to about 9-10k each.
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AMC Choice - SILVER 4 years/50,000 kms (Rs. 16,055/-) or GOLD 4 years/40,000 kms (Rs. 19,895/-)

Calculations:
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TOTAL 10,250

Wear and Tear Part Replacements expected/possible up to 4 years/40,000 kms (covered in GOLD, not covered in SILVER)

Brake pads (with labor) 11,000
Suspension Bushes 8,000
Wiper Blades set (front/rear) 1,000
Belts (x2) 1,000
Bulbs (headlight, tail light, etc.) 1,000

The above are what will more than 95% need replacement at 4 years or 40,000 kms mark and will be replaced for sure

TOTAL 22,000

Clutch (only plates - either wear and tear or burned out - both covered) 15,000
Clutch (plates + bearing/bell?) 22-25,000

The above may or may not need replacement depending on usage and condition.

Looks like it makes sense to shift to the Gold AMC even if it does not cover the 45,000 km service.

Do you guys agree with the above working and decision process?
Hi,

1) 4yr/40K Gold AMC will NOT cover 4yr/45K scheduled service even if the ODO is less than 40K. I was in a similar situation with the Gold AMC. Reason being the service is termed as 60K service but not as 4yr service

2) Unless you report problems on any of the items you mentioned above and TASS agree to the problem and replace, they will NOT look into it until you go for 45K scheduled service, then, 40K Gold AMC will not be honored.

3) For example - I got my Clutch, Brake assembly, ECU covered in Gold AMC before 40K. But, when I went for 60K service, I paid for Suspension Bush, Tie rod/joints, etc ... that came up to Rs.8000 and odd though I had Silver AMC till 90K.

My advice is to go for 4yr/50K Gold AMC [effectively, you can do possible/allowed replacements until 50K as long as there is a problem and TASS agrees to it and usually, TASS is reasonable in accepting to it] and just forget about the cost unless you want to think of putting that AMC money in RD or FD, then, see how much we get as interest every year

Prem.

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I paid for Suspension Bush, Tie rod/joints, etc ... that came up to Rs.8000 and odd though I had Silver AMC till 90K.

My advice is to go for 4yr/50K Gold AMC
or buy a vehicle that doesn't require suspension overhaul at 60K kilometers, which most modern vehicles don't...
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Doc, with those calculations, even if one goes for Gold AMC @ 4/ 50000 km for about 39k, it still would cover the cost of the AMC. Not to forget the first two services @ 15k & 30k which would come to about 9-10k each.
Agree absolutely. Good point about counting the cost of the first two services which would also be covered by the 4 year/40000 km GOLD AMC. I forgot that.

So let me summarize:


If you buy the GOLD AMC for 4 years/50,000 kms (like you have)

Cost of Services (first 3) covered Rs. 30,000

Cost of Parts (wear-n-tear replacements/running repairs) covered Rs. 22,000

Total benefit Rs. 52,000

Money paid Rs. 39,000


If you buy the GOLD AMC for 4 years/40,000 kms (like I plan to)

Cost of Services (first 2 only) covered Rs. 20,000

Cost of Parts (wear-n-tear replacements/running repairs) covered Rs. 22,000

Total benefit Rs. 42,000

Money paid Rs. 20,000


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Hi,

1) 4yr/40K Gold AMC will NOT cover 4yr/45K scheduled service even if the ODO is less than 40K. I was in a similar situation with the Gold AMC. Reason being the service is termed as 60K service but not as 4yr service
Hi Prem. Agreed. I explained the same thing and TATA's rationale for that in my original post.

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2) Unless you report problems on any of the items you mentioned above and TASS agree to the problem and replace, they will NOT look into it until you go for 45K scheduled service, then, 40K Gold AMC will not be honored.
Not if the 45K service is at the end of the 3rd year (as in my case because I will not be running the truck @ 15K a year). So my 3rd (45K) service will be within the stipulated 4 year coverage period for AMC replacement of wear-n-tear/running repair parts till the full 4 years (or 40,000 kms - but in my case that will probably be more than 4 years time wise). Basically, in my case, the GOLD AMC will cover me for parts for the full 4 years, but not cover the 3rd/45K km service.

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3) For example - I got my Clutch, Brake assembly, ECU covered in Gold AMC before 40K. But, when I went for 60K service, I paid for Suspension Bush, Tie rod/joints, etc ... that came up to Rs.8000 and odd though I had Silver AMC till 90K.
Depends. If you had a 4 year/40K km GOLD AMC (I'm assuming that's what you had) and you went for the replacement of those parts BEFORE going for your 60K kms service (but within the stipulated cover period of 4 years) then your GOLD AMC would have covered the 8000 bucks for suspension bushes, tie rod/joints, etc. as well. Please correct me if I understand that wrong.

SILVER AMC up to 90K is no use for that as it would simply cover the service labor/consumables cost of your 45K, 60K, 75K, and 90K services - again, I'm assuming you bought a top-up 50K kms SILVER AMC after the termination coverage of your forst 40K kms GOLD AMC (and not both concurrently). Of course if you buy a 4 year/50Kkms SILVER AMC after already completing 40K kms, you pay much more (Rs. 28,370/-) than the Rs. 16,055/- you pay if you buy the same coverage within the first 10,000 kms.


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or buy a vehicle that doesn't require suspension overhaul at 60K kilometers, which most modern vehicles don't...
LOL Too late (redundant) advice for most of us here on this thread!

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At top right corner of this page there its mentioned- store. You can order stickers and key chain via that.

Yes, Gurgaon-fbd road is the best in the NCR if you love to drive.
Thanks. Ordered the sticker set
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or buy a vehicle that doesn't require suspension overhaul at 60K kilometers, which most modern vehicles don't...
In the old 2.2, if you were regularly running on mountain/rough roads(20% run on rough roads), suspension bushes last about 35K max
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or buy a vehicle that doesn't require suspension overhaul at 60K kilometers, which most modern vehicles don't...
No modern vehicles suspension lasts more than 60-65k as per my experience with last 5 vehicles, be it ford, suzuki, tata, hyundai or any body type.
In case of ford, they insist you to go for suspension overhaul at 60k or max at 70k, even if some life is left.
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In case of ford, they insist you to go for suspension overhaul at 60k or max at 70k, even if some life is left.
I am sure the Ford Dealer told you this to make money. This will not be specified in your service/maintenance booklet. Suspensions are build to go over 100K kilometers. At the most, Tie rod ends have to be changed due to the potholes on our roads.
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Suspensions are build to go over 100K kilometers. At the most, Tie rod ends have to be changed due to the potholes on our roads.
In my experience of over 95k kms in my Safari, the suspension has held up well, only the bushes were changed due to hardening, a set of rear suspension bushes cost some 2200/-. TASC recommends that they be changed at 60k kms and then at a lac kms.
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I am sure the Ford Dealer told you this to make money. This will not be specified in your service/maintenance booklet. Suspensions are build to go over 100K kilometers. At the most, Tie rod ends have to be changed due to the potholes on our roads.
Which is what I also suspected. But It indeed needed overhaul and I had cross checked with my reliable local mechanic. And finally got it done at 70k.
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