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Old 2nd August 2014, 21:58   #7771
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it states 3.8 litres as the capacity for engine oil whereas in my bill, it shows they have filled 4.1 litres.

The front suspension is making loud thud noises these days when it hits a raised section of the road....
Does 3.8 Lit include an oil filter change? If not the extra "xx"ml may be taken up by the filter.

For a 10k driven vehicle, suspension thudding is unusual. Have to checked the Diesel's sump guard/plastic cover - maybe that has worked loose and is flapping around. Otherwise a thorough check of the lower arms / struts maybe needed.
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Was browsing through the thread and it states 3.8 litres as the capacity for engine oil whereas in my bill, it shows they have filled 4.1 litres. Though it is just 300 ml extra, have read extra oil is extremely harmful for turbochargers and makes the car lethargic, dad is even complaining of low fuel efficiency after service.

Should i send a strong worded mail to Ford about this fiasco? Why is their dealer not following company guidelines?
Is the 3.8L capacity limited to the diesel? I took my 1.5P for second service today, and the bill shows that they have filled 4.1L. I did not feel any sluggishness after the service, but then I have driven under 10km.

EDIT: I just checked the manual. According to it, the capacity is 3.8L for the diesel, but 4.1L for both the petrol engines.

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Does 3.8 Lit include an oil filter change? If not the extra "xx"ml may be taken up by the filter.
Yes, it does include an oil filter change. As per Ecosport's manual, it clearly states that with replacement of filter, oil to be filled is 3.8 and without filter, it is 3.4, wonder why the hell did Ford guys fill in 4.1 as that is the specified capacity for 1.5 petrol engine.

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For a 10k driven vehicle, suspension thudding is unusual. Have to checked the Diesel's sump guard/plastic cover - maybe that has worked loose and is flapping around. Otherwise a thorough check of the lower arms / struts maybe needed.
May need to get the bushings checked, our car has already taken a lot of abuse in these 10,000 kms as 5000 of it is on roads that dont deserve to be called roads. Will show it up soon, hope suspension is covered in warranty atleast till 30-40k kms.
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Is the 3.8L capacity limited to the diesel? I took my 1.5P for second service today, and the bill shows that they have filled 4.1L. I did not feel any sluggishness after the service, but I have driven under 10km.
For a 1.5P, they filled in correct amount. It is 4.1 only but mine is a diesel and they filled in 4.1 for it as well. Sending a mail to Ford India regarding this and i need a clarification from Harpreet Ford.

This post shows correct oil to be filled for each engine.
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/offici...ml#post3422002 (Ford EcoSport : Official Review)
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completed 5200 km. its been a very happy 2 months with the ecosport and have enjoyed every km driven in the car.

the car seems to have setteled down well. the engine is very smooth and the milage is hovering aroung 16s in city and suburb use.. the car handles bad roads with ease. the ground clearance is AMAZING!
the OE ICE is more than adequate. overall very satisfied with the car.

rotated the wheels at 5 k km and the goodyears are up to the job.

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1. the hands free blue tooth is not intuitive and the poeple at the other end can't hear u well. thought my figo system was more user friendly and effective.

2. Headlamps: even with philips extremevisions i am struggling. dont know the cause. the stock ones on the i10 seem better. am seriouslu looking for 90/100 or projectors.
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It has been three months since I made my booking and the delivery of 1.5P ES Titanium is nowhere in sight. I made an angry call to Harpreet Ford Gurgaon Sales Manager last week and he offered a Blue EcoSport. After much deliberation (and advise from fellow BHPians), I declined the offer today.

I desperately need a new car, at least before end of November. I told my SA that even if an AT or Trend Petrol becomes available in any of my four preferred color options, I'll take it.

Given the fact that Ford is phasing out Ti-VCT, I'm highly skeptical that I'll get my car delivered before November. The only silver lining for me is the fact that the launch of awesome-looking Fiat Avventura is nearing. It seems to be much lighter than ES and will be powered by 1.4 T-Jet (which I would prefer any day over 1.5 Ti-VCT and 1L Ecoboost). Which basically means that Avventura will pack a bigger punch than ES. Fiat cars are globally known for the handling and ride quality and combined with good styling and T-Jet engine, the Avventura will be a winner IMO. Maybe, the delay in ES delivery might turn out to be blessing in disguise for me.

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Yes, it does include an oil filter change. As per Ecosport's manual, it clearly states that with replacement of filter, oil to be filled is 3.8 and without filter, it is 3.4, wonder why the hell did Ford guys fill in 4.1 as that is the specified capacity for 1.5 petrol engine.
It is 3.8L with the oil change. When I went for my 10 service, I made that this is confirmed with the SA before he took my car for service. With great confidence he said it's 3.8L with oil filter. I mentioned about this confusion in some service stations across India and he said that all service stations have received proper communication from Ford regarding this. The extra amount might seem small, but it's not good to fill it up with extra oil. Suggest you to take action against the dealer. I have my bill in my ownership thread.

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May need to get the bushings checked, our car has already taken a lot of abuse in these 10,000 kms as 5000 of it is on roads that dont deserve to be called roads. Will show it up soon, hope suspension is covered in warranty atleast till 30-40k kms.
Yes, suspension is covered under warranty. If it's at fault, you can replace it for free.
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Starting the 1.5 tdci before all the LEDs in the console goes off makes the powertrain (!) warning light to come up. There is a slightly irregular idling also. No DTC code stored, though.

Tried many options to get instantaneous/average FE readings from the ELM327/torque, but of no use. Since my model doesn't have the econometer, finding it tough to get accurate FE. Meanwhile i will try with bosch fun2drive and update the details later.

Engine oil 'feeling' not so smooth within 5k km; since ford has now come up with a 'happy pocket service' for 2.5k, i feel it is VFM as we get an oil service and a car wash. The only turn-off is that Lathangi Ford guys at Hosur road are extremely lethargic and the drive to CK palya might be like walking into the lion's den(RTO KA51 who used to stay put at the NICE road junction).

There is a newly opened Ford service at Hosur- Akashs ford, but that is a drive of 35 km one way; if nothing else works then better to do it at this month end trip to Coimbatore.

Yesterday drove with only the fog lights and once i reached home, i could see some condensation inside on both the lamps. Since i fitted them at the dealership, i suspected their workmanship, but the ecosport manual mentions that 'some fogging up' is normal. Fogging up of the fog lamps; Is this normal?

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Do check carefully on the boot lid for dents. The spare wheel taking the brunt means it has passed on the impact to the bolts on the boot lid. It may have pushed it inside behind the spare wheel.
Checked it many times, no damage seen. Even 'our' spare wheel cover did not get any visible damage, the slow speed nature of the impact is the reason i guess.

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Did anybody upgrade the fog lamp bulbs? I had upgraded the headlamps to night breaker unlimited, and apart from the whiter light, it does not seem to have any impact with oncoming high-beam motorists. So, now I will try the fogs, before looking at the HID route on the headlamps. Any suggestions on fog lamp bulbs would be appreciated. I checked xtremevision h7 online, and it seems to be costlier than even the headlamps.
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Would it be worth it (on any car)?

Fog lamps are meant to illuminate a patch of road of fairly short distance in front of you.
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Had a dead battery on my Ecosport. I was partly at fault as the audio system was running for close to 2 hours. I have done this countless times on the Altis and Figo but never had the battery die.

After 2 hours I decided to start up the car. Pressed the start/stop button. All lights inside blinked like crazy and nothing happened. Everything inside was dead. Since the car was unlocked, I tried locking it. But central locking didn't work. I used the key in the fob but that works only on driver door. If battery is dead all other doors remain unlocked. And since none of the doors have individual locks the car will remain unlocked. Waited for an hour to see if there would be some juice to crank again but it was properly dead. Nothing was working.

Called up Ford Roadside Assistance at 3PM and within an hour they sent a guy on an Activa with jumper cable and battery. This guy was from a nearby battery shop who has tied up with a Rescue. Looks like Ford has a tie up with Rescue.

Opened the hood and the first thing the guy asks is, where's the battery terminals? Since they are not from Ford they don't know the car, but I won't blame them. The Ecosport battery placement is extremely complex. The ECU is bolted on top of the battery. You can only see the side of the battery. I checked the manual and there is a small symbol which indicates jumper cable points since you cannot access the negative terminal of the battery.

The car started up with jump start but was not able to remain on. As soon as the battery got disconnected it would die again. Finally revved it a little and it stayed on. But it showed ABS malfunction, airbag malfunction and for some strange reason, the headlights came on. The headlight switch was in off position!! This added more load to the weak battery. I don't know why the headlight came on when the switch was always in off. I idled it for 15mins but now I was worried with the abs/airbag malfunction and headlights. After that the guy said turn off and on again to see if it works then they can leave. Switched it off and luckily this time it came back on with no warnings and headlights behaved.

I was disappointed with the battery getting discharged so easily. The car was used on Thursday last. Since there is no ACC mode due to true keyless entry, the lights come on in dash and my guess is even diesel pump is on. This causes more load on battery. Not to mention if you have the AC on, blower will remain on. The boot is also electric release and I used it a few times today.

Not being able to lock 3 of the doors would have been a nightmare if it was not at my apartment and this had happened somewhere outside.

The keyless entry with start/stop is very useful to use but this is a huge disadvantage with no ACC mode, no lock on individual doors, no way to crank and see what the problem is. You are left helpless.

I must commend on the prompt response from Ford Roadside Assistance. All Ecosports are covered for roadside assistance for 2 years. I called up at 3PM, the guy asked for address and details of problem. 10mins later I get a call from Mumbai number and the friendly guy said, 45mins, someone will be there. Half hour later he calls and says guy is outside apartment please speak to him and he places a conference call with the guy waiting at my gate. The jump start took around 20mins. The Ford guy from Mumbai called 10mins later for feedback. I just gave one feedback. Send a small guide to the battery guys who you have tie up with on how to jump start ecosport with location of jumper cable points. I checked the manual and figured it out. Others may not be as proactive to check manual for all this.

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The keyless entry with start/stop is very useful to use but this is a huge disadvantage with no ACC mode, no lock on individual doors, no way to crank and see what the problem is. You are left helpless.
Bad experience Vid but the good part is that the roadside assistance guys were prompt in coming quickly and jump starting the car. Those error messages may be coming due to low/poor voltage going to all the systems and maybe that is why the hordes of errors came popping up. Even in Linea/Punto if the battery is weak, the system throws airbag failure message upon starting.

Just a day before yesterday, was trying to reset our Ecosport's ECU as it was giving dismal figures of 13-14 in city and was shocked to find the ECU bolted on top of the battery, could be a headache if you are in a remote town and need to get the battery replaced. I removed the positive terminal, tried to lock the doors but only the driver side would as there is no separate locking for other doors . This issue is there in Vento as well, if the doors are open and battery runs out, we can only lock driver door. Left the doors open as car was parked in our apartments. Cars like Swift and Linea have no issues as they have a separate lock for each door, the electronic locking is a big issue in such circumstances.

Have never sat inside the car for 2 hours with audio but seems the power demands are high with ignition ON. The audio system works without ignition on as well and if you dont mind, what were you doing with audio for 2 hours if it is stock
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The keyless entry with start/stop is very useful to use but this is a huge disadvantage with no ACC mode, no lock on individual doors, no way to crank and see what the problem is. You are left helpless.
Let me tell you one more problem with Start/Stop button. If you happen to stall the car (leave clutch early without sufficient accelerator etc) and need to re-start quickly, its real menace.

You must come to neutral.
De-clutch the pedal completely.
Press the clutch pedal again.
Then press Start/Stop.

What a pain. Not to mention the honkers from behind.
Sometime I feel the price for sophistication comes at loss of value in critical conditions. A compromise on the feature feels well justified, thinking about emergencies.
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Let me tell you one more problem with Start/Stop button. If you happen to stall the car (leave clutch early without sufficient accelerator etc) and need to re-start quickly, its real menace.
I faced this situation couple of times. I dont know how I managed to restart the car but found the process to be confusing. Now I think it's the same procedure that you mentioned. Add to this people honking from behind and the entire situation makes things difficult.
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Would it be worth it (on any car)?

Fog lamps are meant to illuminate a patch of road of fairly short distance in front of you.
I am hoping that a brighter set of fog lamps could make the oncoming motorists use the low beam, especially since the head lamps are failing to do that job. I wear thick prescription glasses, and high beams from oncoming vehicles nearly blinds me.

Headlamps, even with brighter bulbs fails to give a pointed beam, which I guess is because of the reflectors.
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I am hoping that a brighter set of fog lamps could make the oncoming motorists use the low beam, especially since the head lamps are failing to do that job. I wear thick prescription glasses, and high beams from oncoming vehicles nearly blinds me.

Headlamps, even with brighter bulbs fails to give a pointed beam, which I guess is because of the reflectors.
There's no point in investing for bulbs for the fog lamps. It's designed to cover a wide area rather then a long throw. Else you will need to change the complete unit. My friend and fellow BHPian had installed volvo headlights (projectors) as fog lamps for his Swift. That provided a better throw and visibility but again, it's expensive. Better headlight upgrade is the best bet.
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