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Old 20th June 2013, 22:32   #1036
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For people who have seen it, does the Mars Red color have this kind of dual shade effect, because in some pictures the Ecosport appears true red and in some it has an orange shade?
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Has the ecosport been crash tested by the Euro NCAP ? I was only able to find a Latin NCAP report where it scored 4 stars. Not sure how tough the Latin NCAP standards really are
Latin NCAP standards are almost same as the ones in euro NCAP. The testing procedure and the equipment used are the same. 4 stars in Latin NCAP is descent enough as the safety features in the test car would be less than that of Euro NCAP test. The trend is cars which have 5 stars in Euro get 3-4 stars in the Latin rest.
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Has the ecosport been crash tested by the Euro NCAP ? I was only able to find a Latin NCAP report where it scored 4 stars. Not sure how tough the Latin NCAP standards really are
That's a nice find. On further looking, I see that the max that any car has scored in Latin NCAP is 4 stars. Cars like Polo, Cruze and Fiesta which have scored 5 stars in Euro NCAP have scored 4 here.

Over and above that, the ecosport has scored points of 13.64 out of a max 16.00 for protection of Adult occupants, which is higher than even what the Cruze has scored. Looks extremely impressive.

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Why is there no news of the AT? With 6-speed triptronic Powershift, 6-airbags, brake-assist, stability control, traction control etc, it should be a steal if priced at the same level as titanium diesel, for those who plan to drive less than, say, 10000 km a year.

GTO, in the Fiesta Automatic review, said that the 1.5L Petrol TI-VCT engine is termed 'lackluster' on the Fiesta. But would the triptronic powershift make the driving experience more interesting?
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Went to Harpreet ford in Gurgaon today and took a look at the Ecosport there. The car isn't big and it is obvious that its a hatchback. Interiors look much better than the duster though plastic quality in general is not great. It looks well put together, though. The doors close with a reassuring thud which is something that is missing from the duster. Getting in and out of the car is easy thanks to the height and the seats offer adequate support. It is a 4 seater but because one is sitting upright with straight knees, the space feels more than, say, and i20.

They'll start TDs only after 26th is what I was told and don't seem to have much idea about the price except it'll be in a bracket of 6-11 lakhs
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That's a nice find. On further looking, I see that the max that any car has scored in Latin NCAP is 4 stars. Cars like Polo, Cruze and Fiesta which have scored 5 stars in Euro NCAP have scored 4 here.

Over and above that, the ecosport has scored points of 13.64 out of a max 16.00 for protection of Adult occupants, which is higher than even what the Cruze has scored. Looks extremely impressive.
That is indeed impressive,especially when we consider the fact that most of the cars available in India don't have the same safety equipment as in the Euro NCAP tested models. This 4 star rating is more relevant, considering the models we buy and use may have only 2 airbags coupled with other safety features.

I'm guessing the Titanium option should score a good 5/5 then ? Brilliant stuff by Ford really

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I'm guessing the Titanium option should score a good 5/5 then ? Brilliant stuff by Ford really
Also it is worth noting that the Duster has 3 stars in Euro NCAP. Translated to Latin NCAP, it could go down to two stars.

What more can it score with its paper-thin sheet metal, and a structure made like wafer? The Duster which is supposedly wider, longer and roomier is curiously lighter than the Ecosport. Speaks volumes about its build quality. And safety...
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Old 21st June 2013, 00:09   #1043
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All those who are confused about various variants (), here's a ready reckoner. Just copy-pasted from Ford website and did conditional formatting in excel. One image shows the difference between all variants and one has common features.I hav put minor cosmetic changes lik ORVM color etc in the common sheet, just to focus on the meat in the difference.

Hope it helps in making a decision. Enjoy! Any comments/ feedback is welcome.
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Regarding pricing, I wonder if the sliding rupee (touching 60 now) is making a mess of their strategy...
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Wondering what accessories you would need for your Ecosport order?

Booking a Ecosport 1.5 TDCi Titanium (O). Here are the Accessories list, I have researched to buy in prioritised order, along with a short description. Sharing for fellow Team BHPians benefit too. Hope it helps you.

Prio1 – Must have / Nice to have
1) REAR SPOILER – increased stability
2) AIR DEFLECTOR (SLIMLINE WEATHERSHIELDS) – deflect heat waves and rain : 4k (DlrMargin-610)
3) MUD FLAPS - Protect the car's body from mud, slush, water & deflected stones:1.2k (DlrMargin-200)
4) TRUNK MAT (CARPET / PLASTIC TRAY) – (To protect the original boot carpeting from spillage, dust, dirt, etc. To prevent the luggage from slipping and sliding while driving) :3k (DlrMargin -515)
5) SPARE WHEEL COVER - Protects the spare wheel from dust and damage
6) ANTI THEFT NUTS (For alloy wheel) (Prevents theft of the expensive spare alloy wheel)
7) SIDE RUNNING BOARD (To ease the ingress and egress of passengers)
8) CARPET FLOOR MATS (Available in Black) - To protect the original carpeting from dust, dirt and slush :1.8k (DlrMargin-310)
9) SPORTY PEDAL SET - Protect original pedals & provides better grip
10) SEAT BELT PAD (To provide a cushioning effect while wearing the seat belt): 207 (DlrMargin-37)

Prio2 – Recommended, check for price & your usage:

1) ROOF STYLING RAILS & CROSS BARS - Cross bars designed to carry a load of 50Kgs
2) ENGINE GUARD: 5.4k (DlrMargin-825)

Prio3 – Optional:
1) WHITE STREAK BULBS – H1 & H7 (HID comes as a package of fog,.12% increased luminance)
2) FRONT AND REAR BUMPER APPLIQUES – protects bumper
3) HEADLAMP GUARD, ACRYLIC - Protects the head lamps from minor impacts and scratches
4) BUG DEFLECTOR / BONNECT PROTECTOR - Deflects and prevents bugs from hitting the windshield while driving at high speeds :6k (DlrMargin:900)
5) MAPMYINDIA Navigation (12k: DlrMargin-1500) 6) REVERSE CAMERA WITH IRVM LCD DISPLAY (IRVM – Replacement option; Safety accessory to assist driver while reversing and parking; Comes as a set of the IR camera and the IRVM LCD display) : 15k (DlrMargin-2600)
=> CHECK if needed for Titanium (O)! Reverse the EcoSport and a ‘beep’ lets you know when the sensors detect objects behind you, while a display in your dashboard indicates where they are. So, do CHECK whether you need to spend 15k for a camera & lcd additionally, for this sub4m car? You maynot need is my humble suggestion.
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Old 21st June 2013, 01:15   #1046
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Wondering what accessories you would need for your Ecosport order?

Booking a Ecosport 1.5 TDCi Titanium (O). Here are the Accessories list, I have researched to buy in prioritised order, along with a short description. Sharing for fellow Team BHPians benefit too. Hope it helps you.

[b]Prio1 – Must have / Nice to have
3) MUD FLAPS - Protect the car's body from mud, slush, water & deflected stones:1.2k (DlrMargin-200)
5) SPARE WHEEL COVER - Protects the spare wheel from dust and damage
6) ANTI THEFT NUTS (For alloy wheel) (Prevents theft of the expensive spare alloy wheel)
8) CARPET FLOOR MATS (Available in Black) - To protect the original carpeting from dust, dirt and slush :1.8k (DlrMargin-310)

Prio2 – Recommended, check for price & your usage:

2) ENGINE GUARD: 5.4k (DlrMargin-825)
2) FRONT AND REAR BUMPER APPLIQUES – protects bumper
3) HEADLAMP GUARD, ACRYLIC - Protects the head lamps from minor impacts and scratches
4) BUG DEFLECTOR / BONNECT PROTECTOR - Deflects and prevents bugs from hitting the windshield while driving at high speeds :6k (DlrMargin:900)
Cowboy, from the exhaustive list you've provided this is all I'd buy for my Ecosport Diesel if it ever happens Also, rear spoiler will NOT add any stability on your Ecosport. Only a proper Rear Spoiler on a sedan which is driven on a track will make a perceptible difference. A rear spoiler on an Ecosport will enhance looks at best
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What more can it score with its paper-thin sheet metal, and a structure made like wafer? The Duster which is supposedly wider, longer and roomier is curiously lighter than the Ecosport. Speaks volumes about its build quality. And safety...
Thickness of sheet metal does not guarantee safety, it is the crumple zones and other design factors that matter, in addition to abs, airbags etc.

Duster has legendary ride quality while Ecosport has its looks. It will be interesting to see if Ecosport beats Duster's sales numbers consistently.
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Hey all Ecosport fanatics ,

I am getting my Ecosport (Titanium TDCi) in the 1st week of July. Yes, i booked it on 17th (Monday) - Chennai Ford. I got a test drive on tuesday, surprised to see still other dealerships not giving TDs to prospective customers.

- There is a lag till 1800 rpm(not as much as MJDs), then it surges ahead briskly.
- Gear shift feels good to throw around (Effortless and sure slotting)
- space at front and the seats are less & smaller than my Dzire.
- Rear seat is comfy for 2. Good leg space and thigh support. A kid can be squeezed inbetween, shoulder room is at a premium.
- Boot is enough for 4 (weekend trip).
- 60:40 split is welcome and reclining of back seats a blessing.
- Gadgets, features, SYNC, Auto AC, Alloy wheel design, Steering design, ICE -
- The car looks small in person, a bit disappointed with its height and width.

I am pretty sure the price would not cross 10 lacs OTR for Titanium (TDCi). You can call it my instinct or gut feeling. Would feel shot at, if it does so !


No offence to Duster fans and owners, just my perspective.

It is not worth its price (at all). Do not like its beefed up looks and the headlamp cluster is unimpressive. The Rear end looks awkward for me, like how a Tavera looks (Ground clearance is too much when looked from back). visually unappealing for me. Could not digest the price when it was released, unfathomable hikes post that, killed it for me.

Other contender was XUV W6 and Storme.

Xuv - The niggles thread is still over flowing with posts. Dont have time and patience to Crib and complain to ASS frequently.

Storme - some how do not feel its a new one at all. Feature wise - worser than Duster. Bare bones. Side facing last row seats -

So it is the Ford's DNA, safety features and of course the looks and the colour options nailed it for me. I wanted the Kinetic Blue.

Thank you BHPians for the sea of info about the ECOSPORT.

BTW, are there Tuning boxes for the 1.5l TDCi in India and has anyone tried it on their New Fiesta.

Cheers

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Hey all Ecosport fanatics ,

I am getting my Ecosport (Titanium TDCi) in the 1st week of July. Yes, i booked it on 17th (Monday) - Chennai Ford. I got a test drive on tuesday, surprised to see still other dealerships not giving TDs to prospective customers.
I think they will give test drives once the vehicles are in. I had got a call from Pune Ford dealer yesterday and he told me they hadn't received the vehicles yet.

Moreover you can read in the thread that dealers are saying they will give TD only after the prices are announced on 26th. What is the tentative pricing that was told to you ?
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I wonder how Ford will now price the Ecosport considering the rupee has tanked against the dollar quite a bit. But they have to be careful not to overprice it. I don't know how much mandatory the accessories are.

The Brazilian Ecosport is comparable to Duster in size however the Indian one is surgically modified to fit the excise bracket. Even otherwise Ford looks set to earn quite a good amount on this model.
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