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Old 7th September 2017, 18:32   #11446
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Need to change it now. Will this be covered under warranty? Probably not; I guess I'll source the bulb and change it myself. Manual says I need a 5 Watt W5W bulb.
Changed the bulb, cost me Rs. 10.

I wanted to get a LED bulb but the problem is, most LED bulbs have a projector-like design where the output is towards the front. In the EcoSport, the bulb is placed such that the light output is required towards the right. So, even though the bulb was fairly brighter, it didn't serve any purpose. That was for Rs. 125.
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Old 9th September 2017, 16:18   #11447
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And yes, never more than 5k a year for service. And that includes wheel alignment and balancing.
Ford publishes service cost to be around 4.5k average. Does this include alignment & balancing. As for me, they say i need to pay extra for them, and they normally charge 1k above this 4.5k in the workshop where i service my car.

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Ford ASS suggests full replacement and quoting 7500/- for the same. Should I go ahead or rather wait and see? The chipping seems to be superficial, and there are no visible cracks per se.
According to ford service promise website, windshield replacement shouldn't cost more than 4.5k. How come they ask you for 7.5 Please check this website for servicing & repair cost, inclusive of labor and taxes:

https://www.fordservicepricepromise.com/

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This is amazing. Your car puts my Aspire TDCi to shame.
May be this was the same car which Ford gave to ARAI for mileage certification purpose.
Enthusiastic drive & high mileage doesnt go hand in hand I feel sorry for those who brag about their mileage figures and say live to drive. There are plenty of other ways to save money, like saying no to smoke & drinks or staying away from fast food. They will do wonders for your health also I normally get 12-13 city & 15-16 in highway on my TCDI Ecosport. I recently drove the new Figo diesel from Zoomcar for 120km in a mix of city & highway conditions and got a mileage of around 16.5

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Old 9th September 2017, 17:01   #11448
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According to ford service promise website, windshield replacement shouldn't cost more than 4.5k. How come they ask you for 7.5
Yes the link says cost would be 5.5 including labor and spares. Anyway as of now I have decided to try a repair kit and see how it goes.
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On my Ecosport TDCI Titanium+, the FE indicator seems to be just struck at same number (like 18 kmpl in current case). Earlier I used to see this fluctuate while driving within city / highways and different traffic conditions. Once I reset the FE indicator, it starts working again. But after 1 full tank or so, its just stuck at the same number again (irrespective of driving conditions). Anyone else facing similar issue?

Also a major concern - during recent rains while driving at night, had couple of bad experiences. Due to fog formation on windshield inside the cabin, I was completely blind and unable to drive on state highways between Tirupati & Hyderabad (near to Nandyal - lot of pot holes added further misery). It was very risky to drive with oncoming lorry traffic with high beam lights ON. I almost had an head on collision with a lorry driving on my lane in opposite direction trying to overtake another lorry.

Although the rear defogger works like a charm, I fail to understand on how to get the fog out of the front windshield. Having tried all the options - with the AC ON, heater ON, MAX AC (is like the heater ON), also one with the front defogger symbol (like the rear one), finally decided just to park the car and wait until the fog disappears.

Can someone please let me know on how to get rid of fog formation within the cabin.

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Also a major concern - during recent rains while driving at night, had couple of bad experiences. Due to fog formation on windshield inside the cabin, I was completely blind and unable to drive on state highways between Tirupati & Hyderabad (near to Nandyal - lot of pot holes added further misery). It was very risky to drive with oncoming lorry traffic with high beam lights ON. I almost had an head on collision with a lorry driving on my lane in opposite direction trying to overtake another lorry.

Although the rear defogger works like a charm, I fail to understand on how to get the fog out of the front windshield. Having tried all the options - with the AC ON, heater ON, MAX AC (is like the heater ON), also one with the front defogger symbol (like the rear one), finally decided just to park the car and wait until the fog disappears.

Can someone please let me know on how to get rid of fog formation within the cabin.

In my car, I've always just used the MAX button that's in orange, that's the simplest way to defog the screen. In fact i find it difficult to do it in cars that don't have that mode. It basically pushes hot air to the windscreen with Max fan speed.
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In my car, I've always just used the MAX button that's in orange, that's the simplest way to defog the screen. It basically pushes hot air to the windscreen with Max fan speed.
MAX button in orange (pushes hot air to the windscreen with Max fan speed) - doesn't clear the fog though. Its the top right button on the ACC unit. Also what's the purpose of the button on the top left within the ACC unit?

I also need to check if I need to replace my wiper blades (as my ecosport is a year old now).
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But after 1 full tank or so, its just stuck at the same number again (irrespective of driving conditions). Anyone else facing similar issue?
Probably because the FE change is minimal after having driven 500+ kms, unless of course there's a very drastic difference?

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Can someone please let me know on how to get rid of fog formation within the cabin.
When my windshield starts fogging up, I use the Max (front defogger) button and it clears up within a couple of seconds. So much so, that I can't use this for more than a few seconds because the cabin gets really hot.

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MAX button in orange (pushes hot air to the windscreen with Max fan speed) - doesn't clear the fog though. Its the top right button on the ACC unit. Also what's the purpose of the button on the top left within the ACC unit?

I also need to check if I need to replace my wiper blades (as my ecosport is a year old now).
This could be one reason; it probably isn't fog that is persisting but wiper blades not doing their job effectively?

My car is at 14 months, no issues with blades though.
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Probably because the FE change is minimal after having driven 500+ kms, unless of course there's a very drastic difference?
This could probably be it.

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When my windshield starts fogging up, I use the Max (front defogger) button and it clears up within a couple of seconds. So much so, that I can't use this for more than a few seconds because the cabin gets really hot.
Agreed on the cabin getting really hot in just few seconds, however I don't see the fog clearing up in my cabin.

Any idea what does the button on the top left of ACC unit do?

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it probably isn't fog that is persisting but wiper blades not doing their job effectively?
I will try changing the wiper blades.
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Although the rear defogger works like a charm, I fail to understand on how to get the fog out of the front windshield. Having tried all the options - with the AC ON, heater ON, MAX AC (is like the heater ON), also one with the front defogger symbol (like the rear one), finally decided just to park the car and wait until the fog disappears.

Can someone please let me know on how to get rid of fog formation within the cabin.
First things first, considering that what you're experiencing is really fog, then maybe you're doing something wrong. Or, some part of your ACC is malfunctioning like, for instance, the fresh air door, or the likes.

Secondly, I'm sure there are detailed instructions in the manual regarding your predicament. Still, we'll try to understand what it may be that's causing the said issue.

I personally think that the 'Max Defrost' button is not for normal frost and is meant for extreme conditions like icing and snow situations etc with really frigid weather. And you won't find that in 98% of India. So you would ignore that and the next best thing you should do is try the button on the left of it. Which is the normal Defrost mode.

Here's how you go about it: switch on your ac(manual or auto, whatever you like) and set the desired temperature. Then press the button on the left of Max Defrost. This is your normal defrost. Ideally your Recirculation light should go 'Off' if the AC is in Auto Mode. Check on the fog situation
It should vanish in a few seconds. If it doesn't, and the 'Recirculation' button is still on, switch it Off and check result again. This should do it.

Ideally it is always recommended to use Defrost mode with your 'Recirculation Mode' OFF. That is it should be used in Fresh Air Mode.

Hope this helps.
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Any idea what does the button on the top left of ACC unit do?
It directs airflow (at whatever temp. you have set) to the front and windshield vents (in case you don't want too much air flow right in your face).

I doubt this option is effective or relevant in demisting.
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Also a major concern - during recent rains while driving at night, had couple of bad experiences. Due to fog formation on windshield inside the cabin, I was completely blind and unable to drive on state highways between Tirupati & Hyderabad (near to Nandyal - lot of pot holes added further misery). It was very risky to drive with oncoming lorry traffic with high beam lights ON. I almost had an head on collision with a lorry driving on my lane in opposite direction trying to overtake another lorry.

Although the rear defogger works like a charm, I fail to understand on how to get the fog out of the front windshield. Having tried all the options - with the AC ON, heater ON, MAX AC (is like the heater ON), also one with the front defogger symbol (like the rear one), finally decided just to park the car and wait until the fog disappears.

Can someone please let me know on how to get rid of fog formation within the cabin.
Whether you use Auto or manual mode in your Ecosport's ACC, please turn off "Recirculation" mode (it is the right most button in the centre of the ACC console - the orange light is turned off). This will switch the airflow circuit to fresh air mode.

Also, drop your temperature by 1 degree celsius from the current temperature. This will help in reducing the fogging and eliminate it completely in normal rains as the temperature difference between outside and inside is lesser and hence lesser chances of fogging.

If you are in very cold places, then, use the air flow redirection to windshield apart from your face. This will also help in avoiding fogging even with low fan speeds.

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I used to get fogging till I tried out Rain-X Interior Glas Anti Fog. Not sure if the original is available in India but great product none the less. You may try it.

I'm a big fan of the Rain-X range. They're ideal for our country I feel!
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First things first, considering that what you're experiencing is really fog, then maybe you're doing something wrong. Or, some part of your ACC is malfunctioning like, for instance, the fresh air door, or the likes.
Fog / Mist, basically forming on the windshield from inside. I'm not sure what you mean by fresh air door not working?
(Air from outside not entering the cabin as required)

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I personally think that the 'Max Defrost' button is not for normal frost and is meant for extreme conditions like icing and snow situations.
This option didn't work either to clear out the windscreen

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So you would ignore that and the next best thing you should do is try the button on the left of it. Which is the normal Defrost mode.

Here's how you go about it: switch on your ac(manual or auto, whatever you like) and set the desired temperature. Then press the button on the left of Max Defrost. This is your normal defrost. Ideally your Recirculation light should go 'Off' if the AC is in Auto Mode. Check on the fog situation
It should vanish in a few seconds. If it doesn't, and the 'Recirculation' button is still on, switch it Off and check result again. This should do it.

Ideally it is always recommended to use Defrost mode with your 'Recirculation Mode' OFF. That is it should be used in Fresh Air Mode.
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Whether you use Auto or manual mode in your Ecosport's ACC, please turn off "Recirculation" mode (it is the right most button in the centre of the ACC console - the orange light is turned off). This will switch the airflow circuit to fresh air mode.
Tried this option as well and the re circulation light goes off, but doesn't clear the windscreen.

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Also, drop your temperature by 1 degree celsius from the current temperature. This will help in reducing the fogging and eliminate it completely in normal rains as the temperature difference between outside and inside is lesser and hence lesser chances of fogging.

If you are in very cold places, then, use the air flow redirection to windshield apart from your face. This will also help in avoiding fogging even with low fan speeds.
Lowered the AC to lowest possible temperature with max fan speed directed towards windshield, didn't help. I will try this experiment again when I encounter a similar situation.

On a lighter note -> in my fathers 10 year old Tata Indigo sedan, just turning the AC to a lower temperature with higher fan speed clears the windshield in less than 10 seconds .. fathers smiles in co passenger seat saying --->
Aah modern 12+ lakh car, ACC, auto this, auto that features, build quality, so much of online gyan, team bhp knowledge, live to drive etc.,
Why is fog on the windscreen not clearing up?

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I'm not sure what you mean by fresh air door not working?
(Air from outside not entering the cabin as required)

On a lighter note -> in my fathers 10 year old Tata Indigo sedan, just turning the AC to a lower temperature with higher fan speed clears the windshield in less than 10 seconds .. fathers smiles in co passenger seat saying --->
Aah modern 12+ lakh car, ACC, auto this, auto that features, build quality, so much of online gyan, team bhp knowledge, live to drive etc.,
Why is fog on the windscreen not clearing up?
Well, Fresh Air Door is one of the many door like things that control/regulate the direction and passage of the air in various places in the HVAC system. This one specifically controls whether you have fresh air coming in or have the cabin air recirculating.

Your father is half right by what he says. Older cars AC's we're basically very generic and simple to use and hence got the job done quickly and efficiently with lesser hassle. I have a 12 year old Santro and don't even use the Defogging system and fresh air either. I do fresh air manually when I drive it. I never have Fog on the glass, unless the AC is OFF during rain with people inside.

The other half of the story seems to be that your car looks to be having some malfunction in it's HVAC. By which I mean you may be doing the right thing but the system might not be responding accordingly due to some gremlin. Get it checked by a specialist or take it to Ford. Because if it's indeed a system issue then no matter how much you poke around, it's not gonna yield results. Best of luck.
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Hi fellow BHPians,

Hope all of you are doing well.

Getting straight to the point, I own a Ford Ecosport, 1.5L TDCi bought in the middle of 2014, so it's been a bit over 3 years.

Around 10 days ago, I was getting air checked and filled at a petrol pump near my house (I live in Delhi) and as soon as the process was done, I moved maybe like a few meters ahead and my car just stalled. After many tries it did not start. I even thought maybe the battery was done for, but that wasn't the case either.

So I called up the local Ford dealership where I bought my car from and they told me to order a crane service (since the car was not starting) to get it to their workshop.

Long story short, after a lot of talk and personal meetings with the GM service and the Works Manager, they have come to the conclusion that the entire engine assembly needs to be replaced.

Dear BHPians, please tell me how its possible that after only 3 years a FORD engine can seize. Also, does anyone know how much an engine assembly for the above mentioned car cost ? Any idea of price would be helpful.
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