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Old 15th June 2016, 20:48   #1636
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My ciaz zdi, dechromed!
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Some more pics after matte black job on the grille. I always want to smoke the headlamps and get the alloys painted matte black. Later though.
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Some more pics after matte black job on the grille. I always want to smoke the headlamps and get the alloys painted matte black. Later though.
Looks good, yeah smoke headlamps will look good too :thumbup:
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Got my first service done at maruti service masters Okhla today. Got engine oil changed (mineral oil).
Service manager was resistant to getting oil change but since I was reluctant he got it done.
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I always want to smoke the headlamps
Even though it will look good, isn't it one of those " form over function "? Wouldn't it make the already average headlights less bright?
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I had the first instance of flat tyre on my ciaz. The car looked great with black rims though. 😊

Midas, I find the projector lamps powerful enough. Blame me for having used to Safari Dicor's horrible lamps.
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Got my ciaz serviced yesterday. It was a paid service at 18800 kms on the obo and I must say Maruti service is no longer cheap. Service adviser tried his best to add more things like AC vent cleaning, brake disc and pad check up and cleaning, machine polishing and stuff. However I just wanted a basic service so refused it all. Mobil1 0w40 oil was charged at 1200 per litre which I guess is fair enough, just hope they actually did put the same oil that they charged me for. Rest the service experience was not great at Sai service. They took 3 hours to just wash the car and an additional 45 mins to generate a bill. Over all il give 5/10 to the total service experience. Total damage 9640 which for a Maruti is on a higher side 🤕
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Got my ciaz serviced yesterday. It was a paid service at 18800 kms on the obo and I must say Maruti service is no longer cheap. Service adviser tried his best to add more things like AC vent cleaning, brake disc and pad check up and cleaning, machine polishing and stuff. However I just wanted a basic service so refused it all. Mobil1 0w40 oil was charged at 1200 per litre which I guess is fair enough, just hope they actually did put the same oil that they charged me for. Rest the service experience was not great at Sai service. They took 3 hours to just wash the car and an additional 45 mins to generate a bill. Over all il give 5/10 to the total service experience. Total damage 9640 which for a Maruti is on a higher side 🤕
Dear gargashwin06,

I have a WagonR in Pune. Earlier I had the OmniE.

My experice with Sai Service was so-so - but that was looooong ago.

My experience with Wonder Cars (from 2001 or so) has been very good. So much so that, my wife coordinates and we have never had any problems. I never felt that anything unnecessary was done. I never felt that they over charged. The service cost did not shoot up after the warranty period was over.

Just my two bits!

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Completed about 3 months with my ciaz zdi.
Have done about 7800kms and its been absolutely trouble free.
Today I decided to see how frugal it can be in real life traffic conditions, so in my regular highway run to home I tried to extract the maximum efficiency out of the ciaz.
So i reset the average display to measure the efficiency on the highway run of about 60kms, maintained a steady 80km/hr with full AC and minimal gearshifts, no harsh acceleration and keeping it in fifth gear for about 70% of the trip.
Was pleased with the efficiency hovering above 28km/L for the purely highway stretch. This was according to the MID which i feel is pretty accurate.
Also about the continental's, they are in one word AMAZING, Very very grippy and comfortable. Been using them on my jazz for about 25k kms and now on the ciaz, fully satisfied and highly recommended.

@Prasanna
The dechromed front looks neat but definitely the car is screaming for black alloys to go with it as well as smoked headlamps.
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Maruti Suzuki is developing a new petrol engine M15, 1.5L petrol engine. This engine is already confirmed for S Cross.

Ciaz is likely to get this engine in place of the 1.4-litre K14 unit.

The M15 is a 1,490cc, four-cylinder engine which produces 100hp at 5,900rpm and 133Nm of torque at 4,100rpm.

http://www.autocarindia.com/auto-new...ks-402240.aspx
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The news of MSIL developing a petrol engine for the Ciaz and S-Cross is interesting indeed. However, I don't know which engine they are supposedly "developing" as the aforementioned M15 engine, already exists.

It is known as the M15A, which has been available in 2 states of tune, one of which was used in the original Swift launched in 2005 globally (not in India, where it got the Esteem's 1.3L G-series engine). I know the Swift in Australia got this engine as I was there in Melbourne till 2006, so I watched/read about the launch right there.

This one used in the Swift 2005 global model, seems to have identical specs to the so called M15 being developed now: 100 bhp and 133 Nm torque. This is nothing to write home about, at a time when we have 1.2L turbo petrols producing 105 bhp and 175 Nm torque. Suzuki's own Booster Jet 1.0L engine, even if it is a 3 cylinder, produces more output and torque than this 1.5L.

The other state of tune of the M15A, produces 111 bhp and 143 Nm of torque. Now these are much better figures for cars the size of Ciaz and S-Cross.

However, I fail to understand, why Maruti can't just plonk in the tried and trusted M16A 1.6L VVT engine, that was detuned and used in the SX4! This M16A is used in the Chinese market Ciaz so why not here? The best version of this engine in the overseas SX4, produced 117 bhp and 156 Nm torque! How lovely the Ciaz and S-Cross would be with this engine.

And since it is an older already used engine, it should not cost much. Maybe fuel efficiency was a point in consideration, but the SX4 was a heavier car so the mileage was less. But, a big sedan like Ciaz giving 10-11 kmpl in city with a petrol engine, is perfectly fine! How much more can you extract from such a big car? It is crazy sometimes.

This link shows the entire M-series of Suzuki engines. Very interesting. There is even a 1.8L M18A! Wow!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzuki_M_engine

My personal view: If not the older M16A 1.6L VVT, at least develop a new K-series 1.6L engine! All 3 K-series engines in India are nice - 1.0L K10B, 1.2L K12B and the latest 1.4L K14B. So why not have a K16B 1.6L K-series added to this range?!

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We booked a Ciaz from Sagar automobiles in Bangalore(Bannerghatta Road) and the SA said that I cannot visit their stockyard for the PDI however I made it clear to him that without PDI, I will not allow registration and to this, he replied saying that they will bring the car to their showroom after which I can inspect and ascertain registration. What do I do? Is this viable?
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However, I fail to understand, why Maruti can't just plonk in the tried and trusted M16A 1.6L VVT engine, that was detuned and used in the SX4!
Primary reason I believe is that the taxation will be different (if I am not wrong). The taxation below 1500cc is 24% and above that is 30%.

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We booked a Ciaz from Sagar automobiles in Bangalore(Bannerghatta Road) and the SA said that I cannot visit their stockyard for the PDI however I made it clear to him that without PDI, I will not allow registration and to this, he replied saying that they will bring the car to their showroom after which I can inspect and ascertain registration.
Probably car was in their stockyard for a long time and it's not in a good shape. So, they don't want you to see it before washing. This is the best base scenario. What's the manufacturing month of this car?

In my case, two SAs took me to their stockyard in their own test drive vehicle. This was at least 15km from their showroom somewhere in sarjapur road.

So, they are either trying to hide something or just lazy to take you to a stockyard which is generally outside city.
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Probably car was in their stockyard for a long time and it's not in a good shape

So, they are either trying to hide something or just lazy to take you to a stockyard which is generally outside city.
He assures me that the car is no longer than 2 months old. I shall ask him for VIN details today.
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