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Old 11th January 2016, 05:31   #2941
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There are many options in standard size, few of them won't make sense for a change from the OEM tyre(JK). Here are the list of few came across:
Apollo Alnac 4G
Falken AZENIS PT722
Hankook OPTIMO ME02
Pirelli P4 four seasons
Bridgestone Potenza G III
Michelin Primacy 3ST
Vredestein ULTRAC CENTO
Bridgestone Turanza GR 90
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A lot of S Cross owners have opted for Michelin, Pireli or Goodyear. I fell Bridgestone Potenza G III is a good option as well. While inquiring for my car in Bangalore I had been to a Bridgestone dealer on Indra Nagar double road - between CMH road and BDA complex and he offered 3,500 for buy back and 7,600 per tyre. I finally ended up with Goodyear but I strongly feel that Bridgestone is great for our road conditions.
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Lots of owners have chosen to go the P3ST way, the other glaring options being the Pirellis and the Goodyears. The P3STs have excellent feedback - you just need to search for posts in this thread.

BTW, the price correction for the Michelins should make the decision easier for you

About the stock tyres, don't confuse them with the JK Vectras. The Elanzo Nxt is newer and should last reasonably long, while turning hard relatively sooner.

Yes I do know that the S Cross comes with Elanzo and not the Vectra( My SX4 has the Vectra and they're running great)

After enquiring with a few shops, The P4s would cost me around INR 10k for exchange and the Michelins are anywhere between 12-14k. So my question is which are the better ones to opt for? Given our road (Mumbai) conditions. Also, is it true that the Michelins are more prone to puncturing or some other issues on our roads due to relatively softer sidewalls?
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OT I noticed that most S-Cross owners post the pic from the rear.
The S Cross front view appears insipid initially, bit the look grows on you

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Great to see a lot of momentum on this thread. This goes on to show that the product is damn good, but people were a bit skeptical initially to take the plunge. I have not seen any single S-Cross thread, where people have reported any kind of issue.

I have completed ~2500 KMs so far in one month and I have just one thing to report 'Bliss' ! The car rides so bloody well on any kind of surface that all your journeys become very comfortable and fatigue-free. Its also very fuel efficient in all conditions. I have been getting ~18 kmpl average till now, which sways between 23-24 kmpl on highways and about 17-18 in city traffic. I am mighty impressed with my decision to go for S-Cross.

3 cheers to Suzuki!!!
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Have seen a lot of S Cross on the road.

It certainly looks a lot more desirable as when it was launched.
Probably, it was a marketing failure from MSIL or the customer perception that it was a direct portrayed as a direct competitor to Creta.

However, now both have carved a seperate niche for themselves and the beauty and positives of the Cross are becoming evident.

Going forward, I also feel that the Cross sales may increase on the basis of word of mouth.

Cross exemplifies the fine line between Subtle Genius and Flashy!!
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A lot of S Cross owners have opted for Michelin, Pireli or Goodyear. I fell Bridgestone Potenza G III is a good option as well.
I tried really hard to get hold of the Potenzas, but even the Select shop nearby home did not have stock and could not organise them in reasonable time. I have used the Turanzas in my Esteem for close to 40k KMS and they had a transformational effect on the car - still have a couple of tens of thousands of mileage left.

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Yes I do know that the S Cross comes with Elanzo and not the Vectra( My SX4 has the Vectra and they're running great)
After enquiring with a few shops, The P4s would cost me around INR 10k for exchange and the Michelins are anywhere between 12-14k. So my question is which are the better ones to opt for? Given our road (Mumbai) conditions. Also, is it true that the Michelins are more prone to puncturing or some other issues on our roads due to relatively softer sidewalls?
Well! I had the same apprehensions about Michelin, but the P3ST is particularly made for the subcontinent and has been a very popular choice for the stock size tyres on the S-Cross. The gentleman I have quoted below (volkman10) has an ownership review you'd want to check out.

I went with the P4s in mind, but the dealer did not have stock in spite of advance intimation. Thankfully, they had fresh rubber from Goodyear (~ 5 weeks old) and I chose them from my good experience with the EcoSport.

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A lot of S Cross owners have opted for Michelin, Pireli or Goodyear. I fell Bridgestone Potenza G III is a good option as well. While inquiring for my car in Bangalore I had been to a Bridgestone dealer on Indra Nagar double road - between CMH road and BDA complex and he offered 3,500 for buy back and 7,600 per tyre. I finally ended up with Goodyear but I strongly feel that Bridgestone is great for our road conditions.
GIIIs are old now, they offer good grip in wet and dry conditions along with great cornering ability. But, they don't age well and tends to get noisy after 20k kms.
After price revision from Michelin, P3ST 205/60-16 is being offered at 7k / tyre.
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...I fell Bridgestone Potenza G III is a good option as well. While inquiring for my car in Bangalore I had been to a Bridgestone dealer on Indra Nagar double road - between CMH road and BDA complex and he offered 3,500 for buy back and 7,600 per tyre.

... I strongly feel that Bridgestone is great for our road conditions.
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I tried really hard to get hold of the Potenzas, but even the Select shop nearby home did not have stock and could not organise them in reasonable time. I have used the Turanzas in my Esteem for close to 40k KMS and they had a transformational effect on the car - still have a couple of tens of thousands of mileage left...
Potenza is definitely great for our conditions and does aid in cornering the car - it's bliss! But, the downside is, those are noisy! These create ruckus above 100 kmph. Plus, Potenza is a uni-directional tyre, so you always have a tough time during the rotation / puncture replacement scenario.

Two of my tyres on Swift gave me 88,000 kms on Potenza G3 while two of them 55,000 kms, predominantly run on highways and Bangy city. If the rotation was done properly, am sure I would have got atleast 75,000 kms on all tyres.

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The S Cross front view appears insipid initially, bit the look grows on you
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Because that rear is much better to look at, when you compared the unwieldy front !
. On a white car I feel black alloys balance out the abundance of chrome on the front grill. May not bring about the same effect on a grey car thought.

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Default S-Cross being offered at ₹5 lakh discount?

Some websites reporting that S-Cross is being offered with Rs.5 - 5.5 lakh discount at Mumbai NEXA dealerships? According to motoroids report, this is for the DDIS 320. I find it hard to believe, that too from Maruti! Can any Bhpains from Mumbai confirm this?

What I do not find hard to believe is that the S-Cross did not achieve the targeted sales figures for maruti. I have only seen maybe a couple of S-Crosses on the road here (including demo cars). Compared to that, the Baleno is now everywhere (and the Baleno is a product which was launched much later than the S-Cross)

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Finally picked up my S Cross about a month back. Thanks to all the BHPians who evaluated and put their faith and hard earned money in S Cross. And thanks to the official review that nailed and made car's positioning very clear - much better than what Maruti marketing did.

Variant: 1.3 Delta
Cost: ~8.7 on-road

Cars considered:
1. Volkswagen Vento - Nothing, just nothing beats the sheer solidity and classy, understated looks. Just my type of car in terms of personality. Drive was excellent too. However, VW and Skoda's horror service makes my Tata service folks look world class (Tata is actually very good in my 1L Manza experience). That factor alone got this excellent car off the list.
2. Maruti Ciaz: Another sedan. Family favorite. Pretty good and well-rounded product. Fantastic efficiency, excellent space. Was there in the fray till the end. Tinny build, yes. But then it seems a choice between build and service here for us in India. Did not consider Honda City because of Ciaz. City has lost its USP with poor quality reports flooding in. Ciaz does most of what City does at a much lower price point.
3. Verna: Decent car, despite the age. Drives fairly well too. But overpriced, way too overpriced for what it offers vis-a-vis competition - considering corners cut by Hyundai on feature list. Lower variants don't make sense.
4. Create: Lower variants badly equipped, top variant way too high price for what it offers. Would rather pick full SUVs any day over this hatch on stilts. On a side not, too many Creta drivers in Gurgaon/NCR drive like hooligans - whatever the reason. Underwhelming lower variants, hemmed in feel at back seat and too many cuts and curves on the looks front made it rank lower on the list
5. S CRoss - When it was launched, I called up one of my friends at Maruti and said that it will be dead-on-arrival products. And it actually has turned that way. But when I drove it, and then again, and then again, it was bliss. Well, not exactly but pretty good product. Ticks most of the boxes:
a. Has the understated styling - love it now. Just the right proportions and stance
b. Power is adequate in 1.3. 1.6 was hoot - raced a Q5 during test drive. Was fun.
c. Space is fantastic and interiors are perfect for my taste.
d. Drove it b2b with Ciaz and it was no brainer after that final test drive.

Purchase from: Sawhney Nexa. They suck at everything. Pathetic people. No clue about the product or selling process. Stay away from them, everyone. Can share details in case someone needs.

My experience so far (done 1500 kms):
1. Power is not great but adequate. Holds well to speeds.
2. FE around 19.xx - mix of drives
3. Ride is pretty good. My Manza has fantastic ride too, so not much of a difference in overall comfort but Cross feels solid.
4. Handling is fun. Pretty good balance. Car holds to speed very well. Every time I flick it a bit - reminds me of excellent decision of going with this car.
5. Sound from speakers is not very good. It is ok with HD music from Gaana etc.
6. Elanzo Tyres are not that bad actually. I have used Yokohama AVS DB and Pirellis on my Manza. Will wait for these to harden up before replacing.
7. Seats are pretty good - comfortable and quality of fabric used.
Issues:
In 4th gear, get vibrations on gear while decelerating around speeds of 50/60. How about others? Some vibrations in second too.

Why it bombed?
Delta variant was and is available on massive discounts. While it seems well-equipped, it is a step back from Ciaz. MS has removed rear arm rest, not offered rear AC, rear defogger, fog lamps, rear parcel tray, rear arm rest from this variant. Contrast that with Ciaz where VXi+ onwards has all this and lot more.

Attaching some pics. Work done: Opticoat ceramic coating done at Steam and Shine on MG Road (hit of ~14500). It was needed as car had swirl marks and brown will be easier to maintain with this extra protection. Blackened the front chrom grill.

Tried uploading images. Failed couple of times. Will try again later.
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Finally picked up my S Cross about a month back. Thanks to all the BHPians who evaluated and put their faith and hard earned money in S Cross. And thanks to the official review that nailed and made car's positioning very clear - much better than what Maruti marketing
Congrats on your new car.

Looks like we were on the same boat- a Manza upgrade.
However, we picked up the Ciaz because my dad would be using it and would be chauffeur driven. Ciaz is one notch up on the back seat comfort.
Also we found the Ciaz to be better in space and small goodies like rear ac vents etc turned the decision towards the Ciaz.

Enjoy the ride!!!
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Congrats on your new car.

Also we found the Ciaz to be better in space and small goodies like rear ac vents etc turned the decision towards the Ciaz.

Enjoy the ride!!!
Completely agree. The biggest feature missing in S cross i feel would be a rear ac vent.

The rear seat comfort of S cross is equally good. Rather ingress and egress for elderly people works out far better in s cross due to walk in height.
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Completely agree. The biggest feature missing in S cross i feel would be a rear ac vent.

The rear seat comfort of S cross is equally good. Rather ingress and egress for elderly people works out far better in s cross due to walk in height.
Though I agree that its a glaring miss by Suzuki, it hardly matters. In my ~3000 kms running so far, never have my backseat passengers complained about the AC. The AC on the S-Cross is brilliant and the ACC works like a charm. It cools down entire cabin in 10-15 seconds. So not having rear AC vents is not at all a deal breaker IMHO.
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Though I agree that its a glaring miss by Suzuki, it hardly matters. In my ~3000 kms running so far, never have my backseat passengers complained about the AC. The AC on the S-Cross is brilliant and the ACC works like a charm. It cools down entire cabin in 10-15 seconds. So not having rear AC vents is not at all a deal breaker IMHO.
Rear AC vents was not the only factor

I agree that the S cross is a more fun to drive car than the ciaz but it made little sense in our case as it was chauffeur driven. We found the rear seat comfort higher as the suspension is tuned to be softer. Agreed that the Cross's ingress egress is better but it did not win over the back seat comfort. We also found that the 5th seat (used quiet a number of time by my family) is more comfortable in the Ciaz.

Further, the boot space and fuel efficiency were important factors.

Me and my family are not fans of all black interiors. Hence, though of better quality, we liked the Ciaz interiors (baring the beige floor).

The only point which appealed tome in the S Cross over the Ciaz was the availability of the cruise control.

If I was driving, I would have picked the Cross anytime in that segment.

Ideally we would have bought the Storme (an ideal upgrade for the manza in case of comfort and space), but Tata leathergic sales ex put things off for us.
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