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Old 24th January 2016, 20:32   #3046
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I wasn't able to stretch my leg even with the seat pushed back all the way (I'm a shade over 6'). Wonder if that'll cause a sore leg and back after long or rush hour drives.
If you are driving, you definitely should not be having your legs and arms stretched out mate.

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stock JK tyres are poor. Felt a distinct lack of grip when the torque kicked in. Would be the first thing to upgrade if one buys this car. Wider tyres would fill out the wheel arches better too, aiding in the looks department (warranty implications?). Interestingly the SA claimed that the Alpha came shod with Apollo Accelere tyres. Is this true?
Wheel arches would not be filled out unless one is messing with the sidewall height. Maruti might have begun offering Apollo Accelere tyres but they are nothing to write home about either and would still be a poor choice to manage all those torques from the 1.6
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If you are driving, you definitely should not be having your legs and arms stretched out mate.
Angle of the knee differs from car to car. Pretty stretched while driving a Civic, more chair like stance in an XUV. S cross is kind of in between. Maybe the seat height, steering position in the s cross will require tweaking to make it more comfortable for me. Driving styles differ, and are also dependent on the car itself. And no worries mate, I know how to drive.
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Wheel arches would not be filled out unless one is messing with the sidewall height.
True, but I was referring to filling the arches out from a width perspective. When you see the stock tyres in the S cross from a front 3/4 angle they'll seem sunk into the arches. A broader tyre will make the tyres flush with the sides of the car and greatly improve the aesthetics. Whether this impacts warranty, FE, pickup etc is another matter completely.
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Angle of the knee differs from car to car. Pretty stretched while driving a Civic, more chair like stance in an XUV. S cross is kind of in between. Maybe the seat height, steering position in the s cross will require tweaking to make it more comfortable for me. Driving styles differ, and are also dependent on the car itself. And no worries mate, I know how to drive.
Height of the seat is independent from the fact that stretched out legs are a big no no when it comes to driving. Regardless of whether you are in a low-slung sedan or a tall hatchback, you should not be driving with your legs stretched out as that reduces leverage and feel of the pedals and puts you at risk of severe injury in case of a collision. Did not make any comment about your knowledge on how to drive
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True, but I was referring to filling the arches out from a width perspective. When you see the stock tyres in the S cross from a front 3/4 angle they'll seem sunk into the arches. A broader tyre will make the tyres flush with the sides of the car and greatly improve the aesthetics. Whether this impacts warranty, FE, pickup etc is another matter completely.
Agree. As long as aspect ratio and diameter is maintained, Maruti has never been one to cry foul over warranty claims so one can relax in that department
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Has anyone tried tuning boxes or a remap on the 1.3?
Please share your experience on doing one.
Check this ownership report by pannags.

(Maruti S-Cross DDiS 200 Zeta - The A350 cometh!)
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/test-drives-initial-ownership-reports/169423-maruti-s-cross-ddis-200-zeta-a350-cometh.html?highlight=Cross
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Has anyone tried tuning boxes or a remap on the 1.3?
Please share your experience on doing one.
sudeepg's 1.3 (Journey from a Honda City to the Maruti S-Cross 1.3L) runs on a code6 remap
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My bad, I quoted the wrong thread. Thanks for the correction procrj.
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Height of the seat is independent from the fact that stretched out legs are a big no no when it comes to driving. Regardless of whether you are in a low-slung sedan or a tall hatchback, you should not be driving with your legs stretched out as that reduces leverage and feel of the pedals and puts you at risk of severe injury in case of a collision. Did not make any comment about your knowledge on how to drive
Thanks for clarifying. My observation on not being able to stretch my leg was in context of driving a car of course. Don't think anyone drives with his leg stretched out like on a beach chair! On the TD I felt that the pedals were too close to me even with the seat all the way back, and I instinctively tried pushing the seat back a few times. Probably needed to lower the seat height a bit which automatically pushes the seat cushion back a bit... basically spend a bit more time getting comfortable in the cabin - sometimes tough to do in a limited-time TD.

Questions for S Cross owners:
1. Does the stock HU come with pre-outs?
2. Has anyone tried fitting the shark fin antenna? Saw it as an aftermarket accessory online - looked neat.
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Angle of the knee differs from car to car. Pretty stretched while driving a Civic, more chair like stance in an XUV. S cross is kind of in between. Maybe the seat height, steering position in the s cross will require tweaking to make it more comfortable for me. Driving styles differ, and are also dependent on the car itself. And no worries mate, I know how to drive.
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Height of the seat is independent from the fact that stretched out legs are a big no no when it comes to driving. Regardless of whether you are in a low-slung sedan or a tall hatchback, you should not be driving with your legs stretched out as that reduces leverage and feel of the pedals and puts you at risk of severe injury in case of a collision.
Actually I know what razor4077 is talking about. He had a Lancer and then a Civic. Both these cars have seats that are set extremely low. So when you sit in them your legs are almost parallel to the floor of the car. The angle is small. And not because the seat is far away. This is especially true if you like to set the seat height adjust to lowest position (like me).

After these 2 cars, any other car feels like you are sitting on a high mounted chair. I had the same problem in my Corolla, Figo and now Ecosport. In the S-cross, the seat even at the lowest position was higher than I wanted it.

The seating position wasn't sporty to say although it could have been. Your the angle between your calf and the floor is much more because of the higher set seating vs the sedans especially if you are coming from a Civic and Lancer.
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Is anyone here aware of the extended warranty (3rd/4th year) terms and conditions for S CROSS ?
If yes, then request to share it here.

Nexa guys and Maruti customer care has no clue whatsoever !!
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Hello guys,
Test drove the Suzuki S-Cross 1.6 Alpha yesterday. I thought, I'd do a nice write up of the drive, but I can't remember anything much beyond that silly grin I had on my face. WHAT AN ENGINE!!! However, have tried to recollect as much as I can.

This car was from Shivam Nexa in Andheri, and their SA Darshan Joshi was a thorough gentleman. He kept me updated on the test drive status, car availability. This experience was night and day better than what I experienced with Sai Service Nexa, Lower Parel.

What I loved about the car:
1. ENGINE: If its a S-cross, it has to be the 1.6. I found the engine to be super refined, compared to the 1.3 MJD I have in my Punto. It's pretty free revving too. Yes, the low end torque is, err, low but it's not a deal breaker. Once it wakes up, it's great fun.
2. Gearbox: I quite liked the slick and smooth gearbox, yes the clutch is a bit hard. It's a matter of getting used to. The car revs at around 2K RPM at speeds of 120 KMPH. My punto does 100 kmph at 2.5K RPM.
3. Seats and ergonomics: The driver's seat is lovely, it's quite big and I felt very comfy on it. With the seat set to my height (5.11), there was more than enough room in the rear. Even the rear has a decent seat squab. All the controls fell in place logically unlike the ergonomic nightmare that is the punto. Also the steering adjusts for reach and rake.
4. Brakes: All 4 wheel discs, with a decent feel and retardation.
5. Media center: The 7 inch touch screen HU is very nice too, very snappy in response and connection capabilities. The car was kitted with Hertz component speaker along with a slim woofer in the boot, so could not judge the sound quality. The current set up was too shrill for my liking.
6. Ride Quality: Top marks to Maruti here too, they've not softened the suspension and the car has a nice ride as a result. This is especially true when the you up the pace. High speed behaviour is similar to my Punto.

Some not so good bits:
1. Interiors: I was not vowed but the interiors, yes it's decent but nothing that was make you go wow. I feel the MID could have had more functions like gear change indicator, digital speedo, gear position indicator etc. Also the power window switches were not backlit, and felt too plain for my liking.
2. Alloys: Most have flayed Maruti, and rightly so, for the rather poor design of the alloys. They do no justice to enhance the looks of the car. If I buy this car, that'd be the first thing to change. I could not judge the tires in my test drive.
Boot space: The boot has 360L capacity, I feel that is too small for a car this size. The Baleno comes with 330L (I think) and Jazz with 354L, so you see. But atleast the seats have 60:40 split, so again not a deal breaker.

I'm really keen on getting this car, and now with the huge price cut it comes to 14.25L OTR Mumbai (excluding the extended warranty). Now I need to sort out my finances and make decision.

Well done Maruti. If only you had not got greedy, the car would've been flying off the shelves.

Cheers

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Is anyone here aware of the extended warranty (3rd/4th year) terms and conditions for S CROSS ?
If yes, then request to share it here.

Nexa guys and Maruti customer care has no clue whatsoever !!
Same here. The NEXA RM has no idea about the terms and conditions. I called up the toll free no and they have no clue as well. The woman who answered the call asked me to drop an email to the contact email address. I have done that. Waiting for the response...
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The seating position wasn't sporty to say although it could have been. Your the angle between your calf and the floor is much more because of the higher set seating vs the sedans especially if you are coming from a Civic and Lancer.
Though I must admit I have never driven an old lancer, having driven cars lower than the Civic (S2k), being 6ft tall myself, and also personally enjoying the seat as close to the floor as possible I am certain that driving the S-Cross with the seat pushed all the way back, is not the most appropriate. Ofcourse the angle between your calf and the floor is more in a higher seat. No one is arguing that, heck I switch between driving a WagonR and a Kizashi on most days so this is pretty apparent to me. Razor was talking about having his legs stretched that doesn't happen just by sitting in a low car that happens by pushing the seat too far behind and nearly locking your knees.

Anyway, Razor also mentioned that it could be because he never fiddled with the height adjust. The person who drove the test drive vehicle before him was in all probability shorter than he was (I'm sure our nation's average male height is far below 6ft) and thus may have had the seat set really high which also brings it more forward. Shall therefore give the benefit of doubt

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I am certain that driving the S-Cross with the seat pushed all the way back, is not the most appropriate. Ofcourse the angle between your calf and the floor is more in a higher seat. No one is arguing that, heck I switch between driving a WagonR and a Kizashi on most days so this is pretty apparent to me. Razor was talking about having his legs stretched that doesn't happen just by sitting in a low car that happens by pushing the seat too far behind and nearly locking your knees.
To be honest I've not encountered too many cars where my knees have been "locked" even with the seat pushed back all the way. It's my preferred position for most cars in India (second last position for some cars) and I don't think it's caused any problems with pedal control. I also prefer keeping the seat back slightly upright and the steering close and low... IMHO it's about what overall settings work for you, as opposed to any single rule. And my point with respect to the S Cross was that my knee was at an uncomfortable angle because I found the pedals too close to me... a little bit more stretching of the knee would have made it better. Lowering the seat more might have done the trick as you have rightly said. Anyhow, this getting OT. Bottom line is, I liked the S Cross!

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Finally got the front chrome grill smoked.

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Looks great with these subtle cosmetic mods; really stands out and improves the plain Jane front. Couple of questions:
- what went wrong with sourcing the European/UK all black grill?
- are the 3M wraps on the grill and below durable? I.e, will they be able to withstand mud, rains, dead bugs et al?
- how about the roof wrap? Any special maintenance/care required? Any challenges with respect to the washing guy using a "pocha" on it? Scratch, tear, fade etc?
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Booked: White S-Cross DDiS320 Alpha!!!

I am back to the forum with a serious post after a long long time. As most of you know, I had pre-booked the S-Cross DDiS200 long back. However, I was oscillating if to go forward with the purchase or not. Lot of personal factors had come in between and finally with a heavy heart I had cancelled the booking last month. I thought that was the end of the story and I will not be thinking of a car for at least 6 months.

How wrong could I be, again a lot of event in life and now I needed a car in the space of a month. That is exactly when I saw the post about the price correction. Went to the showroom to check out and Bimal Nexa had some 2015 model cars readily available and there were handsome discounts on them as well. End of the day I was getting a 2015 1.6 S-Cross for a little over the 2016 1.3 S-Cross which I felt is real VFM. I did not go for Zeta / Delta as I wanted some features like ACC, Reverse Camera to be standard in my car. With Alpha, I get HID projectors, leather seats, etc. also which were desirable but not mandatory for me. Premium Silver was my preferred color and was the favorite for all of us in the family - but was not available with any dealers. At best they had the Delta variant, which I did not want to go with. Finally after a lot of deliberation, went with the white. Wife did not really like Brown or Grey and father was against blue and White was the only option remaining and went ahead with it.

Finally went to the showroom today and booked the car paying 11k. PDI will be done before the month end and if everything goes well, I will pay some more amount to take the process forward. I am looking forward to taking delivery by mid-February.

This is my first huge investment and I am really excited to share the news with the forum. I always wanted to go for tire and alloy upgrade, but now since I have already over-shot by budget by 2 lakhs, I am still not finalized on those aspects. I am looking forward to hear from other owners on their thoughts on this.

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