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Old 13th May 2016, 21:24   #4471
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A birdie shared this info with me. When Maruti service centre guys went to factory for Vitara Brezza training, they got information that Maruti won't import any new 1.6 engines. Production would be eventually stopped after stocks are exhausted. He also said Maruti might localise this engine or develop their own engine for future models. I can't say how authentic this information is.
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A birdie shared this info with me. When Maruti service centre guys went to factory for Vitara Brezza training, they got information that Maruti won't import any new 1.6 engines. Production would be eventually stopped after stocks are exhausted. He also said Maruti might localise this engine or develop their own engine for future models. I can't say how authentic this information is.
Yesterday I was talking to one of my seniors who is in R&D. He also said that plans are there to stop imports of this engine. Talks are going on at managerial level for localising this engine/ completely stopping the 1.6L variant.

He also gave me an info that inhouse 1.5L petrol engine is almost ready, and is based on the existing 1.4K series motor. This engine will be launched by this year end, and if his guess is to be believed, the Ciaz will be the 1st one to get this 1.5L petrol engine, followed by Brezza and Ertiga.

Secondly, the 1.5L diesel is still sometime away, and is likely to debut on the 2018 Ertiga.

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Production would be eventually stopped after stocks are exhausted. He also said Maruti might localise this engine or develop their own engine for future models. I can't say how authentic this information is.
The information on the 1.6L engine was given in Dec -15 by the Service Manager here. The 1.6 L diesel is being localized and is likely to be seen in the upcoming Vitara. This will be sold through Nexa and will be an offering at a premium price. Maruti Suzuki is not expecting great volumes for these.

Regarding Petrol, S Cross will get the new engine first. The petrol S Cross / Vitara Brezza are also likely to get AT and will be exported to petrol dominant markets (Indonesia) too.

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Yesterday I was talking to one of my seniors who is in R&D. He also said that plans are there to stop imports of this engine. Talks are going on at managerial level for localising this engine/ completely stopping the 1.6L variant.

He also gave me an info that inhouse 1.5L petrol engine is almost ready, and is based on the existing 1.4K series motor. This engine will be launched by this year end, and if his guess is to be believed, the Ciaz will be the 1st one to get this 1.5L petrol engine, followed by Brezza and Ertiga.

Secondly, the 1.5L diesel is still sometime away, and is likely to debut on the 2018 Ertiga.

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Maruti has not imported single 1.6 engine this year. It is very likely that imports are stopped. There is no immediate plans of localising 1.6 engine too. I guess S cross 1.6 production would be stopped once maruti exhausts all the imported engines.

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The information on the 1.6L engine was given in Dec -15 by the Service Manager here. The 1.6 L diesel is being localized and is likely to be seen in the upcoming Vitara. This will be sold through Nexa and will be an offering at a premium price. Maruti Suzuki is not expecting great volumes for these.

Regarding Petrol, S Cross will get the new engine first. The petrol S Cross is also likely to get AT and will be exported to petrol dominant markets(Indonesia)too.
Yes, there are plans to launch petrol S cross soon. I am sad that one of the best product by Maruti - 1.6 S cross is going to die like Kizashi.
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This is Sad.
1.6 S-cross is perhaps the finest car Maruti has ever rolled out in Indian markets.

I hope its being localized rather than being completely phased out.

I am glad I booked mine before maruti stop selling these Beauties. It really is a wonderful car.
1.6 DDIS with a equally capable gearbox is a perfect combination.

But I really think it's high time Maruti moves forward over the 1.3 engine.
It will take a bigger punchy engine if Maruti wants to move into the upper segments.

1.6 could have been such a engine. But Alas!
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What an awful situation for those who are planning to buy 1.6. Some communique from Maruti should clarify this. But the policy of silence by Maruti has some disadvantages too.

IMHO 1.6 could be only substituted by 1.4 boosterjet. It seems 'profit maximisation' may not allow Maruti to import more of 1.6 engines. In Jan 16 Maruti in face of creta success story had unwillingly slashed prices of s-cross. Localisation could only be dictated by demand or future business objectives. Given the numbers of 1.6 sold demand may not be sufficient for Maruti. Besides approaching market tilt towarss petrol also indicate against 1.6. So uncertainty still pervails. S-cross could save Maruti from great embrassment due to National Engine only. At present Maruti seems focussing on Brezza and Baleno !

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Dear Members, I have taken delivery of my S-Cross Zeta 1.3 yesterday evening ( Brown color). I would like to thank all the members of this forum as you have been instrumental for me to finalize this car. Have been regularly reading through the posts and this had given me the understanding of what to expect from this car.
Many congratulations Ananthc. Here's wishing you miles of happiness. You've made a wise decision by going for S-Cross 1.3 Zeta variant as it is the most value for money variant. After the price cuts, we all know 1.6 variant is a VFM too but its in a different league all together. An ownership review would be greatly appreciated.
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A birdie shared this info with me. When Maruti service centre guys went to factory for Vitara Brezza training, they got information that Maruti won't import any new 1.6 engines. Production would be eventually stopped after stocks are exhausted. He also said Maruti might localise this engine or develop their own engine for future models. I can't say how authentic this information is.
If this is true, it is a sad end to a brilliant move by MSIL.

I was 80% convinced to go for the 1.6 Alpha in spite of its inherent disadvantages, but with the lack of clarity, i do not want to go ahead with the booking.
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If this is true, it is a sad end to a brilliant move by MSIL.

I was 80% convinced to go for the 1.6 Alpha in spite of its inherent disadvantages, but with the lack of clarity, i do not want to go ahead with the booking.
I am getting my 1.6 Alpha in 4-5 days. Spare parts of Engine & Transmission would be a problem if it's discontinued. I have opted for 4 years/80 K KM extended warranty. I seriously hope maruti localises this engine.
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I am getting my 1.6 Alpha in 4-5 days. Spare parts of Engine & Transmission would be a problem if it's discontinued. I have opted for 4 years/80 K KM extended warranty. I seriously hope maruti localises this engine.
It wouldn't be a problem. Maruti will support with parts / spares for the next 10 years after a model is discontinued.
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I am getting my 1.6 Alpha in 4-5 days. Spare parts of Engine & Transmission would be a problem if it's discontinued. I have opted for 4 years/80 K KM extended warranty. I seriously hope maruti localises this engine.
Just for information .kizashi and grand vitara have no problems for spares yet also according to indian rules maruti have to provide spares for 8 years if they decide to call 1.6 off(highly unlikely according to me ) Just had 200km drive on Mumbai-Ahmedabad highway today and i am extremely satisfied and happy with 1.6 alpha . Highway manners at 140(tried it for first time) Is just ridiculously awesome

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I am getting my 1.6 Alpha in 4-5 days. Spare parts of Engine & Transmission would be a problem if it's discontinued. I have opted for 4 years/80 K KM extended warranty. I seriously hope maruti localises this engine.
I hope so too. Apart from the envisaged problem of spares, i am worried about the resale.

My car owning history is bad.
- I had a Ford Fusion TDCi and after a few months of buying it, Ford guys discontinued it. When selling it after 4 years and 1.34 Lakh kms, i had to sell it at a low price as the model was discontinued
- I then bought the All New Fiesta. Now it is over 4 years and 5 months old with 1.13 Lakh kms on the clock. As the model has been discontinued, I am unable to sell it at a decent price.

Now, after a lot of confusion, discussion, sleep deprived nights, i finally wanted to book the 1.6 Alpha (partly also to the great follow up of NEXA guys + extremely worst follow up from Hyundai), there is already a strong possibility of the model being discontinued!!!
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Just for information .kizashi and grand vitara have no problems for spares yet also according to indian rules maruti have to provide spares for 8 years if they decide to call 1.6 off(highly unlikely according to me ) Just had 200km drive on Mumbai-Ahmedabad highway today and i am extremely satisfied and happy with 1.6 alpha . Highway manners at 140(tried it for first time) Is just ridiculously awesome
Yes, I know that buddy. This is one of my main point to convince dad to go for 1.6. What I meant was, spare parts won't be readily available like other maruti cars. SX4 has certain SGP parts and it takes more than a month to arrive if not in stock.

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I hope so too. Apart from the envisaged problem of spares, i am worried about the resale.

My car owning history is bad.
- I had a Ford Fusion TDCi and after a few months of buying it, Ford guys discontinued it. When selling it after 4 years and 1.34 Lakh kms, i had to sell it at a low price as the model was discontinued
- I then bought the All New Fiesta. Now it is over 4 years and 5 months old with 1.13 Lakh kms on the clock. As the model has been discontinued, I am unable to sell it at a decent price.

Now, after a lot of confusion, discussion, sleep deprived nights, i finally wanted to book the 1.6 Alpha (partly also to the great follow up of NEXA guys + extremely worst follow up from Hyundai), there is already a strong possibility of the model being discontinued!!!
Yes, I agree about resale point. But if you are keeping the car for more than 5 years, it should not be a problem. There won't be big difference in resale value for 1.3 vs 1.6 after 5 years.

Your Ford cars were discontinued, but here only 1.6 variant might get discontinued. Maruti has better resale value than Ford.

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IMHO, this engine is here to stay. The Vitara is sure to be launched with it, so even if the Scross loses it, there should be no worries about the support.
Also, considering that the Vitara ia likely to be pricier, I'm super glad that I got the 1.6 in the Scross. In fact, internationally, the reviews all rate the Scross higher than the Vitara, engines being the same.
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This is the worst news ever. I'm still trying to convince parents to go for the S-Cross 1.6 Alpha and now this news. Well, they need to take that call since they are the ones who would fund it, I make little money to buy such a premium car to be honest.
I'd hate it if I wouldn't be able to drive that beauty in the very near future. I'll be stuck (not too unhappy) with my Swift for longer or would have to buy the i20 (they like it, I hate it)
Just keeping my fingers crossed and praying that they make their decision quick enough and we don't miss out on this. Cause that's a car we would keep for a LONG time (Swift Dzire is 8 years now)
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