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Old 18th June 2016, 18:03   #4996
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Thanks for the information, Kalyani Motors said they can't do it. I will not go for those 100W bulbs if they will blacken the reflectors. What other options exist, is there no better bulb from Hella or Philips?
Different users have had different experiences with 100/90 bulbs. I had 100/90 in my Dzire for around 10 months. The car covered more than 24k kms in that period, so you can assume 40% (i.e. 9k+) were night drives at least. There was not a single problem with the reflector but the lens used to heat up a lot. One could feel lots of heat (upon touching) even if the lights were turned on 2-3 minutes back. After a 1 hour drive, the lens were hotter than the car's bonnet.

Due to the lens heating problem, we shifted back to stock. When we inspected the reflector, there was no fading/blackening effect. Keep in mind to turn off the headlights when the car is stationary (engine running or not) as it takes care of battery draining and reflector discolouring issues, by providing time to the reflector to cool down and battery to charge up (at traffic signals, reversing, or when the car is not moving).

When I was there to procure ceramic holders and wiring for my install, a person showed up at the place and told me that XV and NB stuff is not worth the price. He had a 1st-gen Swift and was very disappointed with the light output (I don't remember if he had Philips or Osram, but it was some "+30% light output" brand in stock rating), and had came to replace the same with 100/90. Maybe people expect too much from these 55/60 bulbs but I believe that none of them can match the output of 100/90.

If your usage is not much, you should give 100/90 a try. Use them cautiously and there should be no problems with the reflector or battery.
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....is there no better bulb from Hella or Philips?
These are the best bulbs from them. I, personally was very satisfied with the output, save for the cost. My night drives used for be for 10 hours with two or three 15 mins break in between. I'd never use a 100W bulbs for such runs.

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....When I was there to procure ceramic holders and wiring for my install, a person showed up at the place and told me that XV and NB stuff is not worth the price. He had a 1st-gen Swift and was very disappointed with the light output (I don't remember if he had Philips or Osram, but it was some "+30% light output" brand in stock rating), and had came to replace the same with 100/90. Maybe people expect too much from these 55/60 bulbs but I believe that none of them can match the output of 100/90...
I am surprised! I had a Gen 1 Swift and I had Osram Nightbreakers and was extremely satisfied. The cabbies used to flash at me (to dim) even when I was using the low beam. I have never used a 100W, so not sure how do those perform. Used the bulbs for extensive night drives for 2 years and one fine day both the high beams shot together.
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I am surprised! I had a Gen 1 Swift and I had Osram Nightbreakers and was extremely satisfied. The cabbies used to flash at me (to dim) even when I was using the low beam.
That may be because these bulbs have a tinge of white and are more distracting/bright to the oncoming traffic. While the light throw on the road might appear pure yellow, the whitish dazzling effect is pretty much evident when you compare a car with stock bulbs and these.

In 100/90, though I didn't find any improvement in the pattern of throw, the beam intensity increases by a good margin. This makes low beam much stronger (and sharper) even though the high beam improvement is a notch below. I haven't used NB or XV bulbs but the throw and intensity (on a wall) when compared to 100/90 was definitely not inspiring. Anyway, they make a strong case for themselves as they do not cause warranty problems.

Let the OP try them and update.
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My old ritz had an upgraded wiring kit with 100/130s on left and 100/90s on right. It was just brilliant. The current ones in the s-cross does not even come close. The ritz had a brilliant reflector design that gives a very good throw. I am not sure what the scenario is in the s-cross. I would be upgrading soon, with rains and on roads without street lights (read NH47 currently) the road is literally a light sponge and you cannot see anything at all with the stock s-cross head lamps.
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Any options of upgrading output for Alpha headlights without going for a full replacement like Mi10 did ?
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I would be upgrading soon, with rains and on roads without street lights (read NH47 currently) the road is literally a light sponge and you cannot see anything at all with the stock s-cross head lamps.
I'm also finding it very difficult to have a good visibility in badly lit / Not lit roads. Looking for bulbs in the same wattage category with better visibility.
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Any options of upgrading output for Alpha headlights without going for a full replacement like Mi10 did ?
Mi10 did not replace headlights. He got projector retrofit done for his S-Cross Zeta.

I have S-Cross 1.6 Alpha. My Kwid with halogen bulbs has better output than so called bixenon projector of S-Cross. I am planning to replace projector, bulbs and ballast from Xenon Planet. Another option is to go for AUX lamps. Projector retrofit requires opening up of headlight assembly.

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I'm also finding it very difficult to have a good visibility in badly lit / Not lit roads. Looking for bulbs in the same wattage category with better visibility.
I guess it's the problem with reflector design. Better bulbs won't make a big difference.

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Came across this advertisement today in the Deccan Herald Bangalore Edition and couldn't control sharing it.

Lets begin with the good things first. If one can get to look closely, you will notice

1. The new metallic finished alloys (mention of new Alloys have been posted earlier by member RavenAvi) in a different thread.
2. Stock tyres now have been changed to Appolo Alnac 4G (Better compared to JKs atleast)

And the not so good thing...Mention of DDiS 200 ONLY and its ARAI Mileage.
Looks like with the various rumors going around DDiS 320 / 1.6L, MSIL will most likely pull the plug once the imported stock of the 1.6L engines gets over. Even though MSIL seems to be giving us lot of hints of the same, they are consciously not making any official announcement.

If these rumors indeed become true, my gut feeling is that MSIL will continue with 1.3L and the yet to be unveiled 1.5 L Petrol engine for S-Cross. DDiS 320 / 1.6 L version could be exclusively reserved for the upcoming Grand Vitara and may be just based on pre-orders for the S-Cross.

Picture Source : Deccan Herald - 19th June, Bangalore edition.
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Had some glossy black vinyl so tried some DIY job on front .personally i liked it but wasnt quite happy with the finishing so removed it now.does it look imposing? Or stock looks good ?
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does it look imposing? Or stock looks good ?
Looks nice. Along with this wrap, try wrapping the lower one of the two chrome slats above the number plate if you still have some spare vinyl. It will looks much better and aggressive.

The front look is imposing with the gloss black vinyl, but you can try matte shade if you think it doesn't gel with rest of the black plastics.

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Friends, during the second free service (@ 5000 Kms) of my Delta 1.6, I reported a suspension related issue at the Service Center: A heavy clunking sound which apparently originates from the “Rear Axle Tube” only when the vehicle is turning on a path with any gradient. Say, on a Ramp or curved path wherein the vehicle would require bending on one side due to slope in the path.
Folks, MSIL replaced the faulty axle tube under warranty with a new one. Two mechanics took almost 3 hours to complete the job.

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Problem is rectified , for now.
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1. The new metallic finished alloys (mention of new Alloys have been posted earlier by member RavenAvi) in a different thread.
2. Stock tyres now have been changed to Appolo Alnac 4G
This is interesting especially as I am getting delivery of my 1.3 soon. I was pondering over tyre change by looking at reports of cracks in tyres. I have asked my RM to confirm this news on stock tyres. Grey alloys IMHO are more acceptable than the silver ones.
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With petrol cars in demand, Maruti Suzuki Fast tracks the S Cross Petrol variant.

Maruti S-Cross petrol for India could come with a 1.5-litre 100hp M15 engine.

The M15 is a 1,490cc, four-cylinder engine which produces 100hp at 5,900rpm and 133Nm of torque at 4,100rpm.

This new Engine is likely to come in Ciaz also.

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The M15 engine is also likely to replace the 1.4-litre K14 unit found in Maruti Ciaz. The S-Cross with the 1.5-litre petrol engine could be offered with an optional four-speed automatic gearbox also, but that has not been confirmed yet.
http://www.autocarindia.com/auto-new...ks-402240.aspx

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Mi10 did not replace headlights. He got projector retrofit done for his S-Cross Zeta.

I have S-Cross 1.6 Alpha. My Kwid with halogen bulbs has better output than so called bixenon projector of S-Cross. I am planning to replace projector, bulbs and ballast from Xenon Planet. Another option is to go for AUX lamps. Projector retrofit requires opening up of headlight assembly.



I guess it's the problem with reflector design. Better bulbs won't make a big difference.
Thanks Naren. Yes, I think I will have to go the Aux lamps, it's silly how you spend money on the alpha version and still have to look for changes/addition to the stock kits.
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With petrol cars in demand, Maruti Suzuki Fast tracks the S Cross Petrol variant.

Maruti S-Cross petrol for India could come with a 1.5-litre 100hp M15 engine.

The M15 is a 1,490cc, four-cylinder engine which produces 100hp at 5,900rpm and 133Nm of torque at 4,100rpm.

This new Engine is likely to come in Ciaz also.



http://www.autocarindia.com/auto-new...ks-402240.aspx
Is this based on the old M16 unit with a shorter stroke? AFAIK the M series engines are older than the K series ones. Not complaining anyway since I love the grunt from the older Suzuki motors Out of cruiosity, how much of a tax benefit would cars like the S-Cross and Ciaz get by using a 1.5 instead of a 1.6L motor?
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