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Old 20th August 2016, 12:39   #5491
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My 13k km run 1.6 Alpha just broke down. Clutch pedal just went in and not coming back. It comes back to the original position if we pull it out using our hand. When we depress it again it, it goes in and doesn't come back. There is used to be a faint hissing noise coming from inside of the bonnet while depressing clutch. Any idea what went wrong.
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My 13k km run 1.6 Alpha just broke down. Clutch pedal just went in and not coming back. It comes back to the original position if we pull it out using our hand. When we depress it again it, it goes in and doesn't come back. There is used to be a faint hissing noise coming from inside of the bonnet while depressing clutch. Any idea what went wrong.
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Slave cylinder failure or the clutch springs would have gone bust. Can happen to any car and any manufacturer. Should be a one off case since this is the first time I am hearing this in the Scross. Mostly manufacturing defect.
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In terms of spare parts cost and source of parts, the S-cross 1.6 and old Baleno sedan are pretty similar.
Air filter Rs 910 - Made in Romania.
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My 13k km run 1.6 Alpha just broke down. Clutch pedal just went in and not coming back. It comes back to the original position if we pull it out using our hand. When we depress it again it, it goes in and doesn't come back. There is used to be a faint hissing noise coming from inside of the bonnet while depressing clutch. Any idea what went wrong.
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Clutch slave cylinder has failed.
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In terms of spare parts cost and source of parts, the S-cross 1.6 and old Baleno sedan are pretty similar.
Air filter Rs 910 - Made in Romania.
Engine and transmission is fully imported for 1.6 S-Cross. I was also shocked when I compared spare parts price list of 1.3 and 1.6. Engine related parts were at least 2-3 times costlier in 1.6. I do not have the price list with me. Service manager had showed me in dealership computer.
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Slave cylinder failure or the clutch springs would have gone bust. Can happen to any car and any manufacturer. Should be a one off case since this is the first time I am hearing this in the Scross. Mostly manufacturing defect.
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Air filter Rs 910 - Made in Romania.
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Clutch slave cylinder has failed.
Thanks a lot. It was the slave cylinder.
When the road side assistance guys removed the battery I could see a lot of battery acid leaked out. Acid has corroded a lot of nuts and bolts. One bolt under the battery tray even sheared off they they tried to unscrew it. They say acid does leak in diesel cars (Do they happen???). See pics and how much it had corroded.

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Mechanic even said the battery acid might have corroded the joint near the slave cylinder (encircled in black).

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Car was towed (flatbed) to the service center. SM said parts will be replaced under warranty. He assured me some amount of towing charges can be re ambushed. They will check the battery and charging system for defects. If battery is faulty they assured me it will be replaced under warranty. SM has already provided us with a loaner Ciaz car (I was shocked actually, when he said about the loaner car. I didn't even requested for one and I never knew that Maruti had a provision for loaner cars ) .

So far, I'm extremely happy they way they treated us. Popular Maruti Services Muvattupuzha (40km east of Cochin, Kerala) has really done a good job so far.
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Thanks a lot. It was the slave cylinder.
When the road side assistance guys removed the battery I could see a lot of battery acid leaked out. Acid has corroded a lot of nuts and bolts. One bolt under the battery tray even sheared off they they tried to unscrew it. They say acid does leak in diesel cars (Do they happen???). See pics and how much it had corroded.
Ideally they should replace the corroded parts too. Who will pay for the long term damage caused by this corrosion? I think its the corrosion that even led to the slave cylinder to fail. Get the whole area cleaned well and corroded parts replaced under warranty.
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SM has already provided us with a loaner Ciaz car (I was shocked actually, when he said about the loaner car. I didn't even requested for one and I never knew that Maruti had a provision for loaner cars ) .

So far, I'm extremely happy they way they treated us. Popular Maruti Services Muvattupuzha (40km east of Cochin, Kerala) has really done a good job so far.
Good to hear about warranty replacement and excellent service. I am also very happy with Maruti customer support. I always got a loaner car when I had to keep my SX4 in service centre for more than a day. They would give me TD SX4 car.
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They say acid does leak in diesel cars (Do they happen???). See pics and how much it had corroded.
Whoever said that to you was doing nothing but talking B.S.. Whatever the fuel used in the car, acid should never leak from the battery. It definitely leads to extensive damage as in your case. If the acid has leaked from the top of the battery, the holes used for top up of electrolyte, then your charging system/alternator also needs to be checked. If the alternator overcharges the battery (> 14V), it could lead to boiling of acid and spilling over from the battery. If the leak is from a puncture in the battery body then this may not be the case. However it won't be a bad idea to get the health of your charging system checked from the service ccenter, so that if new battery is fitted it does not lead to further damage.
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They say acid does leak in diesel cars (Do they happen???).
The battery tray + 7 screws underneath and the two plastic liners that are underneath gearbox are rusted and broken due to this battery acid leak.

What these fools at MASS do is over-fill the water in the battery. When the car moves the acids spills off out corroding everything that is around the battery area. I am waiting for the battery tray and the 7 screws to arrive at my MGP stockist so that I can replace it.

Tell the SA that battery functionality does NOT change with what fuel the car runs on.

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If the alternator overcharges the battery (> 14V), it could lead to boiling of acid and spilling over from the battery.
When engine is off the voltage in my Swift's battery is 12.9V
Cranking time voltage: 10.9V
When engine is running: 14.3V

I guess it is time to change the battery in my car as the other indication it is giving is cranking time which is slightly longer than normal.
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Thanks a lot. It was the slave cylinder...

Car was towed (flatbed) to the service center. SM said parts will be replaced under warranty. He assured me some amount of towing charges can be re ambushed. They will check the battery and charging system for defects. If battery is faulty they assured me it will be replaced under warranty...
Happy to know about the good experience. Please ensure you coerced them to replace all relevant parts affected, under warranty. Try to be as friendly & explain how the battery acid spill has caused the damage. I suggest to get it done even if you have to pay (as a last resort). Also check with him if you can write a mail to Maruti if any of the parts are not replaced under warranty. These are suggestions to take up if you are not satisfied.
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Power & Torque at wheels : 1.6 S-Cross (Torque Pro OBD App)

I was playing around with various parameters in torque pro app. There was an option for power and torque at wheels. I dont know if it's accurate, but figures look real. Torque pro website mentions the method to calculate.

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The test should be performed on a flat track. Going up or down a hill/slope will lead to inaccurate readings.
Start from a slow rolling start (about 5 to 10mph) and accelerate until about 55mph. This will give you the most accurate peak value for your vehicle.
Note: If you spin the vehicle wheels then this will cause the figures to over-read
Power : 106 HP (at wheels)
Torque : 281 NM (at wheels)

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This is around 12 percent less than manufacturer claimed figures, thanks to transmission loss.

I will get the accurate result when I dyno the car before remap .
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Guys just completed 1100 Kms in first week of purchase on my 1.6 Zeta. Salient points :-

City Driving - It seems S-Cross 1.6 has been unfairly maligned for turbo lag. Didn't find much of an issue. Most of the city driving by me is between 1000- 1750 RPM. This band too provides feel of ample pulling power. Car smoothly negotiates city traffic, Overtakes are smooth and responds well with moderate acceleration. In this power band one could be disappointed if with 320 Nm in back of his/her mind and not knowing so called sweet spot. 3rd gear has wide range and well suited for city commuting with reduced need for gear changes and I find clutch comfortably light till date.

Highway Drive : This is an S-Cross forte. Sheer exhilaration ! Simply put - more than can one expect and could be at par with much costlier cars! Car surely can give you illusion for low speed while speedometer is actually much higher and therefore calls for responsible driving. Maneuverability is superb.

1.6 Vis-a-vis 1.3 - Not for nothing 1.3 is called National Engine and whatever I have gathered S-Cross has best form of this engine. Drive is super smooth, most akin to a petrol engine and during multiple and longish test drives i found engine never showed lack of power except only during back to back TD with 1.6. Due to such brilliance I was easily prepared for 1.3 but circumstances and not me actually decided 1.6 for me.

Braking is fuss free and confident inspiring.

Goggles casing is nothing more than a showcase because if you use it for indicated purpose there are ceaseless rattles. Also at 1500 RPM rattles are continuously present and source could not be ascertained.

Seating is good and successfully provides comfort from high torque.

Auto dimming rear view is useful device.

Fuel efficiency maximum on highway in 23.1 while I am not using 6th gear! City driving average FE hovers around 16-17. Sedate driving assures good milage and fun filled driving reduces highways milage to about 20. Maruti S-Cross : Official Review-img_20160821_164017.jpg
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Thanks a lot. It was the slave cylinder.
When the road side assistance guys removed the battery I could see a lot of battery acid leaked out. Acid has corroded a lot of nuts and bolts.
Mechanic even said the battery acid might have corroded the joint near the slave cylinder (encircled in black).
Absolutely crazy for a 13k kms car !
S-cross comes with Panasonic battery - One of the best OEM batteries I have seen.

When and where did you get the 10k service done ?
I assume MASS had overfilled the battery during service which resulted in acid frothing.
Do a visual check and get all affected parts replaced.

From pics, I see a lot of oil + acid mix on the gearbox. Get it jet washed before putting the battery back.

Check this thread. Just for reference.
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...-around-2.html (Battery water overfilled, Acid spill around)

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Absolutely crazy for a 13k kms car !
S-cross comes with Panasonic battery - One of the best OEM batteries I have seen.

When and where did you get the 10k service done ?
I assume MASS had overfilled the battery during service which resulted in acid frothing.
Do a visual check and get all affected parts replaced.

From pics, I see a lot of oil + acid mix on the gearbox. Get it jet washed before putting the battery back.

Check this thread. Just for reference.
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...-around-2.html (Battery water overfilled, Acid spill around)
I'd like to thank everyone on their valuable inputs.
10k service was done done in 12-7-2016.

It would be helpful if anyone would provide me with an email id where I would be able to share my experience and concerns regarding the experience I had to the officials. Googling didn't helped me much
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I'd like to thank everyone on their valuable inputs.
10k service was done done in 12-7-2016.

It would be helpful if anyone would provide me with an email id where I would be able to share my experience and concerns regarding the experience I had to the officials. Googling didn't helped me much
Do you have the pics of the battery ?

Will check regarding the concerned person tomorrow and let you know.
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