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Old 4th September 2016, 03:43   #5611
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How does S-Cross 1.3 behave with 4-5 passengers and full luggage since most travel on a highway like this, including me . Thanks in advance.
I had a road trip with a couple of friends from Delhi to Mcleodganj in March during the Holi extended weekend. Had no problem driving through the terrain. The only one instance where I struggled was picking up on a steep slope using only the clutch method (had to use the handbrake) on our way to Triund. But there were a lot of vehicles stalling on that particular slope including a Vento, Creta and one Elite i20. That has to be blamed on the lower oxygen levels and air pressure compared to Delhi.

Also have driven the car from West Delhi to Noida once with 5 people onboard with wedding gifts in the boot ~30kgs during a heavy wedding season last winter. You do feel the weight while driving but never would you ever feel that the car can't pull or overtake. As I said, this DDiS200 is a benchmark of a 1.3 engine. The performance and power delivery is ample even though the numbers on paper might indicate otherwise.
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S-Cross 1.6 : 0-100 timing (Torque Pro App)

As usual I was driving with OBD reader plugged in. I happened to find totally empty stretch of road. I decided it's the perfect time to do some runs. I did 3 runs and was really shocked to see the results. Torque pro reading might not be fully accurate but better than stopwatch. It was a straight and flat road.

0-100 : 10.1 seconds

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Lunch RPM : 2500

Shifted just before 4000 RPM and hit 100 KMPH in 3rd gear.
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S-Cross 1.6 : 0-100 timing (Torque Pro App)


Lunch RPM : 2500

Shifted just before 4000 RPM and hit 100 KMPH in 3rd gear.
That's fabulous ! But it could only be feasible due to launch RPM @2500, besides 3rd gear would almost scramble the car

What was gear sequence for this ? I mean 1-2-3 or 2-3?
Also the road chosen for the test is perfect!

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That's fabulous ! But it could only be feasible due to launch RPM @2500, besides 3rd gear would almost scramble the car

What was gear sequence for this ? I mean 1-2-3 or 2-3?
Also the road chosen for the test is perfect!
I did multiple runs and found this method the best one for 0-100 run in 1.6 S-Cross.

1. Launch at 2500 RPM in 1st gear
2. Shift just before 4000 RPM
3. Hit 100Kph in 3 rd gear

I tried hitting 100 in 4 th gear too but I was around a second slower.

Launching above 2500 RPM caused lots of wheelspin which resulted in a relatively slower timing.

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I did multiple runs and found this method the best one for 0-100 run in 1.6 S-Cross.

1. Launch at 2500 RPM in 1st gear
2. Shift just before 4000 RPM
3. Hit 100Kph in 3 rd gear
Out of curiosity just want to know. Did the car emit a lot of black smoke when you pushed it hard? Or did it behave like a true sports car?

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Out of curiosity just want to know. Did the car emit a lot of black smoke when you pushed it hard? Or did it behave like a true sports car?
I always keep an eye on ORVM to check smoke. I have not noticed black smoke even under hard acceleration. But I have seen one 1.6 S-Cross which was smoking with aggressive driving on ghats which is normal for diesel cars. Continuous black smoke is an issue and only a puff of smoke with WOT is normal.

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I always keep an eye on ORVM to check smoke. I have not noticed black smoke even under hard acceleration. But I have seen one 1.6 S-Cross which was smoking with aggressive driving on ghats which is normal for diesel cars. Continuous black smoke is an issue and only a puff of smoke with WOT is normal.
I have Scross 1.6 too which used to leave lots of black smoke whenever i used to push it bit hard or sometimes in normal conditions too.got my car serviced yesterday.they took nearly 3 days to solve the issue as service center guys took more than 2 days just to identify the issue according to them My 1.6's air filter had lots of dust which resulted in oil sucked into intercooler. So they cleaned the intercooler hoses along with EGR Valve and all the piping associated with it. I havent seen black smoke in last 2 days though tomorrow i am leaving for my native which will give me the opportunity to push the car to max limit fingers crossed this time.hope issue is solved this time.
Also they charged me for Air filter which costs 810 rs.mind you my car have clocked just 8k Km so bit shocked to see air filter gave up so early.seems like my car came with faulty air filter

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I have Scross 1.6 too which used to leave lots of black smoke whenever i used to push it bit hard or sometimes in normal conditions too.got my car serviced yesterday.they took nearly 3 days to solve the issue as service center guys took more than 2 days just to identify the issue according to them My 1.6's air filter had lots of dust which resulted in oil sucked into intercooler. So they cleaned the intercooler hoses along with EGR Valve and all the piping associated with it. I havent seen black smoke in last 2 days though tomorrow i am leaving for my native which will give me the opportunity to push the car to max limit fingers crossed this time.hope issue is solved this time.
Also they charged me for Air filter which costs 810 rs.mind you my car have clocked just 8k Km so bit shocked to see air filter gave up so early.seems like my car came with faulty air filter
Good to know that you are happy finally. I had read about your posts regarding black smoke. What Maruti guys told is true. When air filter is clogged, engine won't get enough air and fuel would be rich resulting in black smoke. Also it's easy to remove air filter on your own. I suggest you to clean it yourself every 5K KM.
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I just checked air filter today to see how dirty it was. It was pretty clean. Also it's Mahle brand (Made in India). My car is April 2016 manufactured and I guess Maruti has localised the air filter now.
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Is it "India Mahle" or "Made in India" ? There's a difference.

To my knowledge, air filter of all 1.6DDIS have been imported from Europe. 70% from Germany. Rest from France, Hungary etc.
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Good to know that you are happy finally. I had read about your posts regarding black smoke. What Maruti guys told is true. When air filter is clogged, engine won't get enough air and fuel would be rich resulting in black smoke. Also it's easy to remove air filter on your own. I suggest you to clean it yourself every 5K KM.
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I Echo your post, my Sx4 (D) was giving a lot of smoke on sudden acceleration. Day before I changed the Air filter (5,000 Kms interval) and the smoke has reduced to half. I normally change the air-filters after 5k kms. For Indian conditions, I believe 10k kms is fairly long interval.
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Naren,

Is it "India Mahle" or "Made in India" ? There's a difference.

To my knowledge, air filter of all 1.6DDIS have been imported from Europe. 70% from Germany. Rest from France, Hungary etc.
It was written as Mahle and Made in India. Maruti might have imported air filters before and would push it for service replacements. Localised one (Mahle) is used for current production batch.
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It was written as Mahle and Made in India. Maruti might have imported air filters before and would push it for service replacements. Localised one (Mahle) is used for current production batch.
Thanks, then its clear, you have got a Mahle (Made in India) filter.

However, its surprising they have localized for such small quantity.
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Thanks, then its clear, you have got a Mahle (Made in India) filter.

However, its surprising they have localized for such small quantity.
I was wrong. I rechecked just now. I had not removed the air filter out and had only glanced by removing the cover before.It's written as "India Mahle". Looking at the word India, I thought it's localised. Kindly confirm!!
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I was wrong. I rechecked just now. I had not removed the air filter out and had only glanced by removing the cover before.It's written as "India Mahle". Looking at the word India, I thought it's localised. Kindly confirm!!
Now you are right.

All air filters of 1.6 are imported from Europe.
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I was wrong. I rechecked just now. I had not removed the air filter out and had only glanced by removing the cover before.It's written as "India Mahle". Looking at the word India, I thought it's localised. Kindly confirm!!
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Now you are right.

All air filters of 1.6 are imported from Europe.

I just did a Google search as "India Mahle" and was indeed directed to an automotive air filter manufacturing company, but it's an India based company. So maybe the filter is being manufactured in India. Here's a link to the company website. http://www.mahlefiltersystemsindia.c...cts/index.aspx

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