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Old 7th December 2015, 16:47   #106
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Same thing one of the Bangalore Dealers told. But don't think it is true. We even have a ownership report from Bhpian methecupid. My friend has booked and has been promised delivery in 3-4 weeks.
Disappointing. Why are they doing like this?

Called Ford India directly and they are arranging for test drive.


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We even have a ownership report from Bhpian methecupid. My friend has booked and has been promised delivery in 3-4 weeks.
Let me read that. Thanks. Did your friend get any discounts/offers?
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Disappointing. Why are they doing like this?

Called Ford India directly and they are arranging for test drive
Let me read that. Thanks. Did your friend get any discounts/offers?
Ford said that there is free insurance and extended warranty offer. Dealership not clear as to whether this is applicable for the AT. So for now have just booked with the discussion on offers pending.
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Had a small query for existing Aspire and Figo 1.5 TDCi owners. Not sure if it was already discussed before and apologies if I've missed it out.

I received my Figo TDCi Trend a week ago and whilst up-shifting gears, clutch depressed I notice the rpm hovers over the 2000 rpm mark for a fraction of a second and then it goes to 1000 rpm. This makes the gear shift ambiance not smooth as it should be as the engine growls a little on the 2000 rpm mark. Had never experienced this on my 1.4 IKON TDCi and Vento 1.6 TDI, the engine used to reach to the idling rpm's in a very linear fashion on depressing the clutch. Just wanted to make sure if its a one off case with my car or others too face it. Has Ford incorporated the race blipping mechanism eh? (Phew that's used for downshifting)

Also, the door open warning light on the instrumentation just doesn't seem to be going off, as a result of which the cabin light functionality to shut off when all the doors are closed isn't working. I'm assuming it maybe a small sensor issue. Any pointers in this regard would be really helpful.

The auto door lock functionality did work a couple of times, now it doesn't. Need to get this checked as well. I am just a little worried about the engine rpm hovering issue, else its a bliss to be having this car.
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Has anyone driven a Figo 1.5L Auto Transmission? Chennai dealer says the AT version hasn't reached them at all and it can be purchased only from Jan-2016.
My dad booked an Automatic on Nov 5. He was told that ETA was around the middle of December, which was 5-6 weeks. Nothing yet.
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2015 Figo TDCi seems to be the best diesel hatch back currently available in the market.

Motorbeam has an article of a comparison run between the segment rivals:

These numbers alone are enough to all enthusiast buyers

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Boy that little hatch is quick
After driving the car from the past 1.5 months and 2500 Km's later, I can certainly vouch for it being fast.

Man, do I love the expressway trips between Pune and Mumbai!!

Even driving within limits, considering the run-in period, the power one feels is insane!

Perhaps a more valid comparo would be between Figo TDCi and Polo GT TDi. Now that would be interesting!

On other note:

Had my first servicing done today. It was a mixed experience considering the waiting time of close to 1 hour for my car to be attended even though I had booked an appointment. Seemed like a general disrespect for customers time. Things were going at its own sweet pace even when I had requested to make it a little quicker as I had an important meeting later in the day. Surely an area of improvement this, especially if they are thinking of countering the mighty MASS.

Not a complete dampner though as I could see them going thoroughly over the check sheet and checking each parameter and doing oil top-up etc. Not to forget seriously checking for the slight squeaking I was hearing on and off from the Rear Right hand door. For now the solution was just greasing the lock area and the sound seems to have gone. Let's see.

One interesting thing, there was a chart showing the cost of regular servicing for all the cars in its lifetime. I snapped a pic of that (sorry for an awkward angle of the photo, hope it legible).

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Had a small query for existing Aspire and Figo 1.5 TDCi owners...
.. whilst up-shifting gears, clutch depressed I notice the rpm hovers over the 2000 rpm mark for a fraction of a second and then it goes to 1000 rpm. This makes the gear shift ambiance not smooth as it should be as the engine growls a little on the 2000 rpm mark.

Just wanted to make sure if its a one off case with my car or others too face it.
I have not noticed this in my Figo 1.5D and I have driven more than 2600Km's already with 1400Km's in bumper to bumper traffic where the gear changes are quite frequent. I took a little time in adjusting to the longer clutch travel but other than that there was nothing un-natural regarding the rpm readings.

On a second thought, can it be possible that due to the long clutch travel perhaps the clutch is depressed a fraction of a second earlier than releasing the accelerator pedal? No intention of offending you sir, but that was perhaps my best guess.

Or it's a one off case which you can get sorted in the first servicing, if it's not already done.


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Also, the door open warning light on the instrumentation just doesn't seem to be going off, as a result of which the cabin light functionality to shut off when all the doors are closed isn't working. I'm assuming it maybe a small sensor issue. Any pointers in this regard would be really helpful.
Looks like a faulty sensor only because if the door is open while the car is in motion it starts to beep continuously. I know this because my 1.5 year old nephew managed to open the rear door on the very first drive from the showroom to home. Thankfully, I was very slow (<10kmph) and the door did not swing open, it just unlocked. The moment it was unlocked the car started beeping.

On a similar note, it's really stupid of Ford to have these abomination of door locking mechanism which are so easy to open. I know, the rear doors have child lock but I had not even driven 2KM's from the showroom and it was not even anticipated. I prefer the Swift kind of locks over this.

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.. its a bliss to be having this car.
I second you on that!

If Zica gets Messi as its brand ambassador, Figo deserves AB de Villiers for sure. Like ABD crawls to 43 off 297, Figo can be very frugal in crawling city traffic and when required as he can score 100 off 31; Figo can do 0-100 in 9.66 secs.

Hope Fords marketing team is reading this!
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Perhaps a more valid comparo would be between Figo TDCi and Polo GT TDi. Now that would be interesting!
Belive me teemus, thats about the only comparison this hot hatch has in 'Oil Burner' territory.

I have driven the 1.5 GT TDi and trust me when I say this, it has completely lost the zing of the 1.6 GT TDi, though on papers there seems to be no real difference.

I have not yet driven the 2015 Figo 1.5 TDCi, which I have been wanting to more than the Abarth Punto

In case you have not yet viewed the best comparison between the 2 hot oil burners, compiled by Karan, check this out:



This weekend, I have promised to TD this hot hatch and give personal comparo stats against my 1.6 GT TDi, which now is 'NOT' the fastest Diesel Hatch in India
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Hope Fords marketing team is reading this!
By the way, speaking of Fords marketing, for the first time I am hearing the ads for Ford on local FM's here in Pune.

Though, not very creative but it's a start it seems.

Moreover, they have missed out on stressing the phenomenal average of 25.5kmpl in the ad. Not so smart IMHO if they are targetting the "kitna deti hain" specialist!

OT: I am hearing ads for even Fiat! Fords and Fiats are waking up finally, it seems, amidst dwindling sales.
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Disappointing. Why are they doing like this?

Called Ford India directly and they are arranging for test drive.
Update: Chennai Ford dealer has the Figo AT for test drives. But he has received only 3 cars for sales till now and all of them were sold. He has no idea when the next car will come. He was cool enough to say June-2016 and if interested in Automatics, Aspire AT can be booked.

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Ford said that there is free insurance and extended warranty offer. Dealership not clear as to whether this is applicable for the AT. So for now have just booked with the discussion on offers pending.
Ford Customer Care mentioned that only exchange bonus is applicable for the AT.

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My dad booked an Automatic on Nov 5. He was told that ETA was around the middle of December, which was 5-6 weeks. Nothing yet.
Good Luck man.

Net result, knocking off the Figo AT without even a test drive. People should learn from Ford how to kill cars.

I was wondering why people buy Swift, Dzire, Baleno in thousands and giving other cars the cold shoulder. Well, why won't they? Competition's pathetic pre- sales experience will ensure they do so for the next decade.
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I have not noticed this in my Figo 1.5D and I have driven more than 2600Km's already with 1400Km's in bumper to bumper traffic where the gear changes are quite frequent. I took a little time in adjusting to the longer clutch travel but other than that there was nothing un-natural regarding the rpm readings.

On a second thought, can it be possible that due to the long clutch travel perhaps the clutch is depressed a fraction of a second earlier than releasing the accelerator pedal? No intention of offending you sir, but that was perhaps my best guess.

Or it's a one off case which you can get sorted in the first servicing, if it's not already done.
Thanks for your response Sir. I did think initially that I was not depressing the clutch to its full length which was causing the rpm's to hover above the idling rpm's ( getting used to the new car ). But I was doing it absolutely fine, and I can assure there was no clutch - accelerator overlap by me which may have caused this. Also I forgot to mention in my prior post, this happens when your doing moderately high speeds of around 60kmph and cannot be experienced at low or bumper to bumper traffic pace. I did discuss this with the Ford SA's and they said it was normal in 1.5 TDCi engines, not sure if they actually understood my concern. If my previous post was not clear enough let me explain my issue with an example.

Lets "assume" I am doing 60kmph in second gear at 4000rpm, I depress (engage) the clutch to shift to the third gear, the rpm needle doesn't come down linearly to the idling rpm. It drops linearly down to around 2000rpm ( this may vary on your speed and rpm whilst changing the gear ) stays there for a fraction of a second then drops further to the idling 900rpm which most cars are maintained at.

Note: these metrics are just for understanding and not the actual performance of the car





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Looks like a faulty sensor only because if the door is open while the car is in motion it starts to beep continuously. I know this because my 1.5 year old nephew managed to open the rear door on the very first drive from the showroom to home. Thankfully, I was very slow (<10kmph) and the door did not swing open, it just unlocked. The moment it was unlocked the car started beeping.

On a similar note, it's really stupid of Ford to have these abomination of door locking mechanism which are so easy to open. I know, the rear doors have child lock but I had not even driven 2KM's from the showroom and it was not even anticipated. I prefer the Swift kind of locks over this.
I did get this fixed today, apparently there was some niggle with the boot sensor. All set now, auto door lock at 20kmph also works perfectly fine now.

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I second you on that!

If Zica gets Messi as its brand ambassador, Figo deserves AB de Villiers for sure. Like ABD crawls to 43 off 297, Figo can be very frugal in crawling city traffic and when required as he can score 100 off 31; Figo can do 0-100 in 9.66 secs.

Hope Fords marketing team is reading this!
You bet Teemus, just cannot wait for the run in period to get over

Do let me know if my engine rpm query is understandable now. Also, I very clearly remember somebody else posting this kind of an issue on the Figo/Aspire threads, I am just not able to find it now though.

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I'm happy to report that my dad is picking up his automatic on Friday. Basically, about a 4 week wait.

Does anyone know if the insurance promotion is still on for the Figo?

Thanks.

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If my previous post was not clear enough let me explain my issue with an example.

Lets "assume" I am doing 60kmph in second gear at 4000rpm, I depress (engage) the clutch to shift to the third gear, the rpm needle doesn't come down linearly to the idling rpm. It drops linearly down to around 2000rpm ( this may vary on your speed and rpm whilst changing the gear ) stays there for a fraction of a second then drops further to the idling 900rpm which most cars are maintained at.

Note: these metrics are just for understanding and not the actual performance of the car

You bet Teemus, just cannot wait for the run in period to get over

Do let me know if my engine rpm query is understandable now. Also, I very clearly remember somebody else posting this kind of an issue on the Figo/Aspire threads, I am just not able to find it now though.
Yes, it's much clear not and indeed this is discussed in the Aspire thread. See the query by d3mon and Vid's response to that. Hope it clarifies your doubt too.

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Couple of questions for the TDCi owners:

1) I've observed that when shifting up from 3rd gear (and possibly other gears too, just that I haven't noticed that yet) at a high RPM (Say 3k+), the ECU holds the Engine revs at about 2.2-2.5K RPM for a few seconds, when the clutch is depressed.
Has anyone else noticed this? Is this to rev match when I shift into fourth gear?
It's a small bother if I want to go to 5th directly.
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Will pitch in because I have the same experience on my old Ecosport. The ECU holds the rpm to rev match and this is a characteristic of the drive by wire throttle system. I have the same in my Ecosport and the corolla. It's much more noticeable in the corolla and not easy to get the hang of.
On a different note, I hope the example you gave is purely hypothetical as 60kmph in 2nd gear at 4000 rpm is not something one should be doing during the run-in period, if I am not mistaken.

To be fair, even on my highway runs with short bursts of acceleration, I went up to 3000 rpm only, which was more than sufficient. But that just might by me being paranoid and religious about the run-in of the car.
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On a different note, I hope the example you gave is purely hypothetical as 60kmph in 2nd gear at 4000 rpm is not something one should be doing during the run-in period, if I am not mistaken.

To be fair, even on my highway runs with short bursts of acceleration, I went up to 3000 rpm only, which was more than sufficient. But that just might by me being paranoid and religious about the run-in of the car.
There is absolutely no problem in crossing 3K or touching 4K rpm during the run in period. This is just a really old belief which hasn't changed.

What is harmful if at all is sudden burst of acceleration and red lining. Even more worse is the opposite being in too high a gear and a low rpm and trying to pull. This is the worse as you are stressing/lugging the engine more like this than driving at 4,000rpm.
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There is absolutely no problem in crossing 3K or touching 4K rpm during the run in period. This is just a really old belief which hasn't changed.

What is harmful if at all is sudden burst of acceleration and red lining. Even more worse is the opposite being in too high a gear and a low rpm and trying to pull. This is the worse as you are stressing/lugging the engine more like this than driving at 4,000rpm.
Thanks for the info!

I tried to play safe knowing there is no harm in being cautious for the first 2500 Km's as we are also getting a hang of a new car. Not that it takes such a long time, but the fact that I have travelled almost always with my wife and kid forced me to not try out the maddening pick up.

What I did was that I kept altering the engine rpm's and gave occasional short bursts on highways (more often than not to lose an annoying driver - push the accelerator to the floor and watch the car vanish in IRVM ).

Yes and I did avoid the opposite like you mentioned, high gear and low rpm, I am coming from driving a Santro and do have habit of changing gears often, in fact, it annoys me if someone is not in the right gear at lower speeds which results in knocking.

I wonder though, why the information about run-in not in the owner's manual or is it there? I tried to look it up in the manual but couldn't find anything related to this.
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I wonder though, why the information about run-in not in the owner's manual or is it there? I tried to look it up in the manual but couldn't find anything related to this.
The online manual (for a 2014 Figo) at the link below has only this to say on running in:

http://www.fordservicecontent.com/Fo.../Figo_2014.pdf

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Just saw on Ford's FB page where some one has posted with a photo that Ford has silently added rear adjustable head rests to Figo.

If they have indeed done it, it is a good addition.
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