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Old 25th May 2010, 21:43   #2071
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heres a review
Petes Tuned Fiat Grande Punto 1.3 Multijet Review

and on the 2nd setting the box tunes the punto to 98hp and 227nm. add a filter and it will be pretty darn quick.
Now that is what I wanted to hear

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Hi,

Not sure about the Punto sport or Petes for punto, but like akshay said there are many swift users who have pete. I know a person sterlingjames who has used Racechip on his swift which is far more cheaper to procure and also gives you same kind of power - and hence I have ordered mine too. Awaiting the racechip, once installed, I will let you know about the performance.

Awaiting,
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Thanks for the input, but I trust Pete's products. BUT I shall look forward to your review. Many thanks










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Hi,

Not sure about the Punto sport or Petes for punto, but like akshay said there are many swift users who have pete. I know a person sterlingjames who has used Racechip on his swift which is far more cheaper to procure and also gives you same kind of power - and hence I have ordered mine too. Awaiting the racechip, once installed, I will let you know about the performance.

Awaiting,
Kailash
Kailash, is this racechip a branded item sold OTC... do we have a website for detailed product & dealer information ?


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PS: Don't bother answering...I googled for it and found it !

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everyone on team-bhp is just waiting for someone else to get the box first.
I would but I'm scared after reading about blown turbos and ecu scans picking it up.
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Old 26th May 2010, 03:05   #2074
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I might sound naive, but it has always seemed to me that a tuning chip has to have an adverse effect on the engine (different from a remap, where the power/torque curves are effected). To me it seems counter-intuitive if a car company has to fit a variable geometry turbo, that costs quite a bit, in order to do something similar. Surely it'd be a lot simpler to just install a chip.

Doesn't running the engine in a higher state of tune, wear out parts sooner?
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heres a review
Petes Tuned Fiat Grande Punto 1.3 Multijet Review

and on the 2nd setting the box tunes the punto to 98hp and 227nm. add a filter and it will be pretty darn quick.
As per that review- at 100 kph, Punto with Pete's box only just managed to get marginally ahead of a stock Swift D!

So much for the hype of Punto sports being a hot hatch! (Punto Sports + Pete's would be interesting though!)
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As per that review- at 100 kph, Punto with Pete's box only just managed to get marginally ahead of a stock Swift D!

So much for the hype of Punto sports being a hot hatch! (Punto Sports + Pete's would be interesting though!)
You missed the next point in that review after your quote.

"At about 120kmph the Punto has clearly outdone the Swift by a cars length. The box cuts 4 seconds off the Punto’s 0-100 time with a ton coming up in 13.5 seconds. In gear acceleration is faster and the car pulls massively in 5th gear."

The review clearly states the reason why Swift has always been a zipper than Punto due to the fact it accelerates faster owing to the lighter weight while Punto is heavier and has taller gear ratios.

So much for the over expectation from Punto
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As per that review- at 100 kph, Punto with Pete's box only just managed to get marginally ahead of a stock Swift D!

So much for the hype of Punto sports being a hot hatch! (Punto Sports + Pete's would be interesting though!)
Yeah brilliant.... I don't know of a tuning box which can cut the 0-100 kph sprint time by 4 seconds which is what the blog says. How are you so sure about the authenticity of their timings?

Instead of posting your negative comments in every Fiat thread, which is getting very repetitive and irritating if I may add, think about it first. Lemme clarify right at the outset that this isn't about car ABC vs car XYZ, no tuning box in itself would improve the 0-100 kph timing by 4 seconds without major mods to the engine.
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As per that review- at 100 kph, Punto with Pete's box only just managed to get marginally ahead of a stock Swift D!

So much for the hype of Punto sports being a hot hatch!
Brings us back to the age-old debate, eh? Put the DDiS engine in a lighter tin box, and it will perform even better. Well, if that is all that matters.
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Yeah brilliant.... I don't know of a tuning box which can cut the 0-100 kph sprint time by 4 seconds which is what the blog says. How are you so sure about the authenticity of their timings?

Instead of posting your negative comments in every Fiat thread, which is getting very repetitive and irritating if I may add, think about it first. Lemme clarify right at the outset that this isn't about car ABC vs car XYZ, no tuning box in itself would improve the 0-100 kph timing by 4 seconds without major mods to the engine.
well OT but petes cut about 4 seconds off the 0-100 of my innova.
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Note from Team-BHP Support:

This thread is about the Fiat Grande Punto : Test Drive & Review

It is not about the addon racing chips.
Please get back to the topic.

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My prospects of owning a Punto might come to naught, looking at the experience I have had with trying to get a proper TD. :(

Chronicled here - http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...ml#post1906893 ("Good Day, I am interested in test driving..." "Sorry Sir, We dont have a car for TD")
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Brings us back to the age-old debate, eh? Put the DDiS engine in a lighter tin box, and it will perform even better. Well, if that is all that matters.
Or may be in a chassis and four wheels without sheet metal - that will fly!

I think it will be better to talk about Punto S after it is launched.
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Note from Team-BHP Support:

This thread is about the Fiat Grande Punto : Test Drive & Review

It is not about the addon racing chips.
Please get back to the topic.

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Yeah brilliant.... I don't know of a tuning box which can cut the 0-100 kph sprint time by 4 seconds which is what the blog says. How are you so sure about the authenticity of their timings?
Extreme, agreed that 4 seconds is way too much. However, lets also factor in:

1. Linky : We timed it back to back, and the Octavia shaved 2.5 seconds off. Stock filter et al.

2. Applicable to all cars : 0 - 100 tests by the mags are generally performed on brand new engines (either brand new, or typically 2000 - 3000 kms). Now, we all know how an engine really comes into its own after 10000 - 20000 kms of driving. I'd say, there is 0.5 seconds right there.

According to me, a 2.5 - 3.0 second improvement is realistic (with a well run-in engine + power box + air intake).

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I would but I'm scared after reading about blown turbos and ecu scans picking it up.
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I might sound naive, but it has always seemed to me that a tuning chip has to have an adverse effect on the engine (different from a remap, where the power/torque curves are effected). To me it seems counter-intuitive if a car company has to fit a variable geometry turbo, that costs quite a bit, in order to do something similar. Surely it'd be a lot simpler to just install a chip.
Agreed. We can continue the discussion on this thread (Petes box - Disadvantages?).
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IExtreme, agreed that 4 seconds is way too much. However, lets also factor in:

1. Linky : We timed it back to back, and the Octavia shaved 2.5 seconds off. Stock filter et al.

2. Applicable to all cars : 0 - 100 tests by the mags are generally performed on brand new engines (either brand new, or typically 2000 - 3000 kms). Now, we all know how an engine really comes into its own after 10000 - 20000 kms of driving. I'd say, there is 0.5 seconds right there.

According to me, a 2.5 - 3.0 second improvement is realistic (with a well run-in engine + power box + air intake).
The car in question is running just the petes tuning box with no other changes or enhancements to the engine which is why my comment. A 2.5-3.0 second improvement is with a well run in engine + power box + air intake as you said but thats not the case here.

In a friend's Punto which has already done more than 8 k's, the 0-100 kph time I feel is not more than 15 seconds. I am pestering him to shoot a 0-100 kph sprint video and as soon as I have it, I will post the same here.

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My prospects of owning a Punto might come to naught, looking at the experience I have had with trying to get a proper TD. :(

Chronicled here - http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...ml#post1906893 ("Good Day, I am interested in test driving..." "Sorry Sir, We dont have a car for TD")

Haha...reminds me of my days when I struggled to get myself a Punto TD. But then again that was just the first half of the story, I finally did get the TD and eventually bought the 1.3MJD...so I'd say hang in there buddy, for there is hope errr should I say.. a Punto waiting for each one of us out there.
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