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Old 22nd November 2009, 11:37   #376
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Beats me too! Just because Vista is an INDICA Vista and the Manza, an INDIGO Manza, I know at least two chaps who are shying away from buying them. Maybe some hotshot MBA can shed some light on this apparently retrograde step?
Giving a old name (Indica / Corolla / Zen /Indigo) helps in better 'BRAND RECALL'. Luckily the members here are well informed about features. But if you look at sales perspective it becomes very easy for the company to pitch the car in mind of buyers, atleast they can relate the name which might help in better sales pitch.

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welcome here autowierdo. i fell the name wouldnt make much of a difference. its very obvious from the looks that its a indigo with a few touches here and there. or was it designed to look similar?
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Giving a old name (Indica / Corolla / Zen /Indigo) helps in better 'BRAND RECALL'. Luckily the members here are well informed about features. But if you look at sales perspective it becomes very easy for the company to pitch the car in mind of buyers, atleast they can relate the name which might help in better sales pitch.

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. My Satin Gold Manza (Aura ABS) is on its way. The Salesman called up and said that my car was on transit. I couldn't believe what he said as it was the dealer who had informed me about the ABS - TATA issues. Hope everything works out well. They have promised to deliver the car by Thursday (After PDI). So I think the Tatas are keeping thier word and delivering the cars within the 3 to 4 weeks waiting period. Will keep you guys updated with my new thread.
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. My Satin Gold Manza (Aura ABS) is on its way. The Salesman called up and said that my car was on transit. I couldn't believe what he said as it was the dealer who had informed me about the ABS - TATA issues. Hope everything works out well. They have promised to deliver the car by Thursday (After PDI). So I think the Tatas are keeping thier word and delivering the cars within the 3 to 4 weeks waiting period. Will keep you guys updated with my new thread.
thats a good news, so manza is rolling down to be on owners hands, waiting to see your ownership thread.
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. My Satin Gold Manza (Aura ABS) is on its way. The Salesman called up and said that my car was on transit. I couldn't believe what he said as it was the dealer who had informed me about the ABS - TATA issues. Hope everything works out well. They have promised to deliver the car by Thursday (After PDI). So I think the Tatas are keeping thier word and delivering the cars within the 3 to 4 weeks waiting period. Will keep you guys updated with my new thread.
I think TATA has started to delivering the cars. Even i was told that Minimal Grey ABS cars are already dispatched,Dealer has even promised that i will get One by Wednesday/Thursday if i go with Minimal Grey (have already booked Monarch Red Aura ABS Diesel), But if i need Monarch Red will have to wait
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Yes that is what matters- owner accounts. The absolute truth. Even I'm waiting for someone to start an ownership thread.
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Yes that is what matters- owner accounts. The absolute truth. Even I'm waiting for someone to start an ownership thread.
Already done by vjoy3. Here it is http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/test-d...e-finally.html (My Manza is here...finally..)
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I see some guys complaining about top-of-the-line Manza not coming with alloys. No car this side of a Merc or Beemer comes with OE alloys which look good. After-market alloys look lot better than OE alloys. So why all this fuss about no alloys? Go get a wide variety of alloys to choose from than be stuck with lousy looking OE alloys.
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Thanks Adits for bringing it to my notice. Will be on it ASAP.
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But I really dont understand why they sell the new cars like Vista & Manza with the names of the older cars (Indica & Indigo) as prefix.
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Maybe some hotshot MBA can shed some light on this apparently retrograde step?
Am no hotshot MBA (but an MBA nevertheless ) and will try to offer an answer. I personally am of the opinion that Tata should have called this car simply "Tata Manza" instead of "Tata Indigo Manza". Related Thread. Still, why do they continue to use the Indigo nameplate?

1. The Indigo has sold about 275,000 cars till date. Translated = Success and acceptability. Despite newer competition in 2009, and lower sales, the Indigo still managed about 3,000 cars on a monthly basis this year.

2. Clearly, the "Indigo" nameplate has a certain level of consumer comfort & trust. The Manza is a substantially improved product, yet its USP stays more or less the same. VFM + space + diesel + Tata + comfort. Similar positioning and hence, the same brand that has become associated with these values.

3. Leads to a sense of "continuity" and "stability" in the mind of the consumer.

4. Mega $$$$ (read = crores) already spent in making the Indigo a household name.

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Giving a old name (Indica / Corolla / Zen /Indigo) helps in better 'BRAND RECALL'.
Well said.

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Will keep you guys updated with my new thread.
We eagerly look forward to your ownership report.

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looks awesome for that price range. especially those massive head lights

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I see some guys complaining about top-of-the-line Manza not coming with alloys. No car this side of a Merc or Beemer comes with OE alloys which look good. After-market alloys look lot better than OE alloys. So why all this fuss about no alloys? Go get a wide variety of alloys to choose from than be stuck with lousy looking OE alloys.
Well the alloys on the Linea look pretty good to me... Though I agree with the point that for a sub 8 lakhs on road (Pune) for a Diesel sedan with ABS and Airbags, saying the lack of alloy wheels is a negative seems a bit much. Though I'm sure that like ANHC, Tata will introduce alloy wheels as well in the near future.

Also saw the AutoBild quick-and-dirty Manza review where they have compared it with Dzire, Logan and (gasp!) Ikon. Agreed Manza is not a performance oriented car, but I see no reason why it should not be compared/ slotted with the Fiesta, Verna, Linea and SX4. Price could be one factor but surely that's not the only one while slotting a car in the C segment's subsegments?
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In the previous thread on the Manza, pics showed the cars to have alloys with the Tata logo in the middle.
https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/1533927-post53.html

Is this just a one off case of making some alloys, or are these available as genuine accesories from the dealers?Anyone who have taken TDs have any idea about this and if available at what price?

Even my family is looking to go in for a Manza, but we will wait for a few months to look at how good(or bad) the build quality is. And also if this car too takes on the role of the older Indigo and goes on to become a favourite among the taxi operators.
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In the previous thread on the Manza, pics showed the cars to have alloys with the Tata logo in the middle.
https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/1533927-post53.html

Is this just a one off case of making some alloys, or are these available as genuine accesories from the dealers?Anyone who have taken TDs have any idea about this and if available at what price?
Even i had seen the alloys in the previous thread. So went and asked dealer (Prerana in Bengaluru) on availability of alloys as accesories from Tata but as per dealer No Alloys are available for Manza as of now.
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