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Old 4th January 2011, 01:22   #1216
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That is what is called Indica.
I think he meant notchback. I am not sure of how or where they'll be able to position it but the notchback version would make the Vista's smallish boot a thing of the past.
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The new indigo manza CS could use more contemporary Aria head lights. I am sure proportionally Manza CS should be better than Manza.

Woah!! That design really looks fab. I've always maintained that with the current manza the proportions have gone for a toss. This though looks absolutely neat and pleasant.

Those tail lamps though remind of the ones on Altis.

Kudos to whoever is responsible for this artistic impression of the manza CS.


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Old 4th January 2011, 09:21   #1218
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I think he meant notchback. I am not sure of how or where they'll be able to position it but the notchback version would make the Vista's smallish boot a thing of the past.
Yes, I meant to say notchback. My feeling is that a notchback Manza + Manza sedan with slightly better put together interiors (read - longer lasting, better quality) would do wonders for the sales graph.

When I was in the market for a 7 lakh rupee sedan last month, I took a hard look at the Manza - everything seems to be in order except for the interior build quality. Somehow it didnt inspire confidence that it would last more than a couple of years without parts falling off, paint chipping off etc. To compare, all you need to do is see a 2005/6 honda City/Corolla. 4 years of hard use hardly shows.
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Can any of the Manza Diesel owners from north help me with what's the operating temp of their cars now in winters even after a couple of hours drive? I am asking this is because I think the air dam in the front is taking in a lot of cold air when the car is moving and it keeps the car fairly cold even after a couple of hours. Please see the pic below. The original pic is where my car's temp guage used to be in summers and I have marked a line in red of where it usually is now even after long drive. If I keep the car idle for a few miutes the temp guage does go to the next mark (25% level) but within minutes after I start moving and gain speeds in excess of 30 or so it comes down to the marked level. That's making me think it is due to the cold air coming in from the front when car moves. In the Delhi cold, now a days it iakes about 8-9 km's for the temp needle to move from bottom and another 4-5 km's to come to the level I marked. Is that normal? I have seen the taxi guys pasting a newspaper or something in the front to avoid cold air coming into the radiator, did not think why they do it.

I might be overly worried, but thought of checking as I do not want to run the car below normal operating temp for long. Please share your experience.
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@amit: from my experience in the US, the car should reach normal operating temperature, and not go down with increased driving. It just takes longer to get heated up, but it does.
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The new indigo manza CS could use more contemporary Aria head lights. I am sure proportionally Manza CS should be better than Manza.
Nice rendering there, pkb! The Manza finally begins to look proportional & nice.
@amit1234singla - the engine is supposed to have a cooler bypass valve, that allows the coolant to circulate through the radiator only after the coolant has attained a minimum pre-determined termperature. Check whether that is functional. If its malfunctioning, its letting the coolant into the radiator pre-maturely, which then cools it and does not allow it to reach optimum operating temperature at the earliest

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...@amit1234singla - the engine is supposed to have a cooler bypass valve...Check whether that is functional...
Thanks, this might be the problem, will get it checked asap.
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An indigo CS with an Octavia / Laura like Hatch / notch back design would be superb and should boost sales even more.

The Front aria type lights on the CS rendition look nice - of course they need to be smaller than in the Aria though they can be of a similar design.

The Rear looks too conservative and a Laura like rear glass swoop would make it more attractive.
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Default Requesting to Move Indigo CS design related material to separate thread

Hello Folks,
I Dont intend to be negative here but i am starting to see that the posts related to Indigo CS are taking this thread off topic,
You can open a separate thread and move these comments there
I am requesting this because whenever i come on this thread to have some Manza related updates i see updates on Indigo CS design
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Old 11th January 2011, 17:28   #1225
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Nice rendering there, pkb! The Manza finally begins to look proportional & nice.
@amit1234singla - the engine is supposed to have a cooler bypass valve, that allows the coolant to circulate through the radiator only after the coolant has attained a minimum pre-determined termperature. Check whether that is functional. If its malfunctioning, its letting the coolant into the radiator pre-maturely, which then cools it and does not allow it to reach optimum operating temperature at the earliest
Thanks. I have got a few more renders of this car. Shall upload them soon. I believe if the boot is big it should be well sculpted (Linea or JLo) otherwise it should be proportional to the size of the car.
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Old 13th January 2011, 21:07   #1226
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pkb - A question for you:
Is your rendering dimensionally accurate ?
Which means, is that rendering accurate in scale, to a CS Manza under 4m in length?

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Nice one pkb. I, for one, would love to see a Marina version of this car. Any chance of you finding some time to render? Thanks.
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Old 15th January 2011, 17:40   #1228
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One more rendering. Have not changed the tail lamps but I think the graphics gives the idea.
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Well, well, well.. our Manza QJD (Aura ABS) completed 25k km's today.
We picked her up on 1st Feb last year, just about a year back. Quick summary of the last 25k km's.

- 6 TASS visits
- Rs.6.5k maintenance cost (mainly engine oil, oil filter, air filter, fuel filter)
- Average mileage of ~18 (50% local, 50% highway)

4 of 6 TASS visits were for free services. Once I had to go to get front suspension rubber bushes checked/ changed. And once to get an electical problem solved (loose earth connection). Overall, very happy. She is behaving just as we expected her to (or better). Not really a driver's car when it comes to handling and gear shifts, but a perfect, comfortable VFM family car.

PS - I owe an apology to our car and all T-BHP friends for not being able to strat an ownership thread. She certainly deserved that. Will do so soon.

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Old 3rd February 2011, 15:54   #1230
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Just test drove the Quadrajet yesterday.

The car feels like so non Tata.

Superb pickup and absolutely no NVH at all.
In fact the TD vehicle had already clocked some 22K odd kilometers but did not feel any rattles.

Manza is most certainly a superior product from Tata.
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