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Old 20th July 2014, 18:08   #3271
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I too had a brief test drive of the Polo 1.5 TDi highline today, to give a background check, i have been driving a Vento 1.6 TDi from past 2 years and the comparisons are according to it :

- The engine felt a lot more refined than the my Vento's diesel unit (mine is a 2012 model in which improvements from Rapid were carried forward in NVH department), in comparison to 1.2 TDi, the NVH is light years ahead.

- The engine felt dud for some reason, on papers it is just 15 bhp and 20 NM less than 1.6TDi but there was no wow factor, even after crossing 2000 RPM. The power delivery has been made way too linear and the surge is almost negligible, while some may like the linear motor, i love the surge which Vento gives after 2000 RPM. The fun factor in 1.5 TDi is lost now.

- Clutch was a lot lot lighter than my car, VW have definitely worked here, steering felt the same and the brakes were sharp as well. The effort required to stop the car is lesser but i still find the brakes average on this car like Vento.

- Interior quality is top notch minus the tacky silver finish , the flat bottom steering has transformed the interiors totally and i prefer the black/beige over the sadistic brey/beige in Vento.

- Handling in Polo was definitely 2 notches higher than Vento, either VW have tweaked the suspension or the Polo always used to handle better than Vento, negligible pitching and the body roll control was far better than my Vento. Apollo's never screeched even once under hard cornering so thumbs up for them as well.

The car has got pricier, 8.40 on road for the highline now, in comparison the Swift ZDI is 7.70 but am sure the Polo 1.5 TDi should give respectable in gear timings thanks to zero lag vs the 1.3 DDIS.
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Old 20th July 2014, 18:11   #3272
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Today was indeed a beautiful day. Everything about today has been so impressive. The pick up, power and the punch.

This post is nothing new, all the details have already been given by our fellow BHPians. Anurag ( fellow BHPian ) and myself have stepped out to check out the New Polo. What bolstered us was the pleasant and appeasing climate.

A small word on Volkswagen Dealers. Today being a sunday and a festive holiday, the showroom was closed. I had made up a call to the Orion Motor Manager and he quickly arranged fora test drive by sending a driver to the place.( May be he lives close to the place, its a different story) Both of us were flabbergasted by this gesture and attitude of their's. It must have been our rapport with these guys or they zest to promote the New Polo. I share this as there have been a lot of negative threads on VW. And reading all of them made me feel sad and low about their attitude. Though i had my share of quirks with their below average workshop technicians, This positive gesture today made us feel good, or may be the climate had a very soothing effect on my mind. A special thanks to VW Jubliee Hills, Hyderabad. Absolutely no marketing or favoritism towards them. Sharing a feel good factor. Lets hope VW lives up to honor their customers.

Now coming to the polo i have a little to add to what has already been discussed. Anurag and myself drove the car for quite some time and here are my observations.
  • The car is now on Steroids. One word. Insane.! I love the pick up on this new car. Though we couldn't do any highway runs. The pick till 4k rpm was mind boggling. I have read on this thread about the car loosing power after 4k rpm, i never felt the same, may be i'm still a novice at understanding the stats.
  • The dead pedal, few of our BHPians felt it to be intrusive, i personally never felt anything of that sort. These comments are after driving the car on a pair of flip flops. Never brushed my feet to the dead pedal while changing gears. I feel it would remain the same when driven wearing a pair of shoes.
  • Anurag had to say the car has a lot of potent characteristics when compared to the swift( I never drove a swift)
  • I always had a fetish for alloys, I never liked the new alloys when i had first seen them in pictures. They look much better in person than in the photographs.
  • The much discussed cornering lamps, i'm not sure what to tell on this. I couldn't make out if the cluster had two bulbs or a single bulb. May be the picture might be of some help.
  • The pick up was amazing on this car. I guess this is how the current GT TDI drives. But the new car is a hoot to drive. Excellent power delivery. Instant power. What a car.
  • We couldn't test the dual barrels in the daylight so no comments.
  • The car comes with both Apollo's and Good years, i don't they can be opted by choice.
  • Last but not the least. The new steering wheel. Excellent. Beautiful perky little thing. Once should consider buying the polo just to get a hold of that steering wheel. Also the steering i'm not sure why, felt a little engaging. We were little hard on the throttle specially on the corners and never did the steering fail on us. Also the body roll was very very minimal.
  • We noticed that one of the door panels had come out. Literally out of its place. This being the test car could have been the reason. Or may the that the car now comes Made in India, customers are bound to see more of such blunders often.
  • To wrap it up came out super impressed. I might consider buying one for myself.
THE NEW POLO. FELT THAT GOOD
WATCHING THE CARS BEHIND YOU VANISH ( errr, something like that ), a very interesting marketing slogan.


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Three new colors with the new polo


Carbon steel
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Night Blue
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Looks similar to the Tempest Blue Mettalic Shade
Copper Orange

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The new steering wheel, an absolute joy to hold.

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Both the front and back logo's are now glossy, finger print magnets

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Notice the new seat fabric, seats were supportive enough.

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The 'TOSA' Looks much better in person.


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Same old, same old.

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Not sure if there are two bulbs in there.

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1.5TDI, The heart of Shattle.

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The white back lighting. Looks Austere, gone is the gaudiness.



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The oxygen sensor is placed inside the manifold somewhere in the exhaust system. The sensor itself is placed inside the manifold and no rat on this planet can go inside the manifold and eat the sensor itself or damage it. The only thing that can be eaten is the wiring which can be easily taped and put back in place. Ask him to solder it, tape it with multiple rounds of taping on the effected portion, delete the CEL by the scanner and DONE. Don't even think of paying 10 k for something which is be easily fixed for less than 50 bucks.
Oh he never claimed the sensor is damaged. It is the wiring that's been chewed. Both sets of wires have been chewed in fact, the one coming from the sensor and the other from the ECU. There's also a set of connectors in between, and the one on the ECU side has fallen off! And the parts are crazy expensive: sensor is 4.5k, the wire harness is 3k, and the connector is 2k. Only silver lining is that it's the downstream (post-catcon) sensor, so it's not affecting my engine performance so much.
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I don't think service centres are allowed to do stuff like twist wires together and tape them. Probably all part of the thinking behind designing wiring looms: it makes it impossible to change just one, cheap, simple piece of wire
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Oh he never claimed the sensor is damaged. It is the wiring that's been chewed. Both sets of wires have been chewed in fact, the one coming from the sensor and the other from the ECU. There's also a set of connectors in between, and the one on the ECU side has fallen off! And the parts are crazy expensive: sensor is 4.5k, the wire harness is 3k, and the connector is 2k. Only silver lining is that it's the downstream (post-catcon) sensor, so it's not affecting my engine performance so much.
Well, let the sensor be, connect the wires like how I told you by soldering and taping and see what happens. I am 99.99% positive it will work. Heck I've seen wires for injectors getting soldiered and put back and work like a charm. If you are not okay with this arrangement just get the wiring harness and connector.

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sadely the truth.
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Well, let the sensor be, connect the wires like how I told you by soldering and taping and see what happens. I am 99.99% positive it will work. Heck I've seen wires for injectors getting soldiered and put back and work like a charm. If you are not okay with this arrangement just get the wiring harness and connector.



sadely the truth.
Problem here is that once the service centre has recorded the problem officially, even if the owner gets it 1000% perfectly done from outside, VW will not honour any future warranty surrounding the component(s) in question.

I faced this issue with Chevy when I upgraded my earlier Aveo's tyres from the crappy OEM NCT 185/60/14 to Yoko ES 100 195/60/14. Had incidentally noted that a job card (the handwritten version) had a 'tyre upgrade comment' from my SA.

Months later when I faced a wheel bearing issue, I asked them to change it under warranty and they initially said no based on my 'upgrade'. Luckily, Chevy also had a service bulletin to check Aveo wheel bearings which I was aware of , so they changed the rear wheel bearings for free.

Do keep this in mind! Anything officially recorded in a vehicle records database is a dual-edged sword. This is especially true for VW with it's Germanic obsession on process and documentation.
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Attachment 1264631I've booked the Polo 1.2 Highline and have been promised delivery by the end of this week.

Color - Night Blue.

Funny thing though, the sales rep sent me the VIN number, and on decoding i learnt that it says the vehicle is a 2015 model. Any idea why ?! Has me totally puzzled !

Attaching a pic of the display model... The dark showroom doesn't do justice to the gorgeous blue.

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Funny thing though, the sales rep sent me the VIN number, and on decoding i learnt that it says the vehicle is a 2015 model. Any idea why ?! Has me totally puzzled !

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The year mentioned is probably the 'model year' and not the year of manufacture.
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The year mentioned is probably the 'model year' and not the year of manufacture.
Well if the 10th Character is indeed the year of manufacture, then in my case that translates to 2015 , the 10th character being F.
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It totally depends on how you going to use the ride. If the average running is more than 1500 kms it does makes sense to go for the diesel option.

The 1.5 l engine is absolutely a gem. I have test driven the polo highline tdi myself and its a great car. The engine is a four cylinder engine and provides ample power and torque at your disposal. Steering is precise and it takes a little time to get used to it.

If you really want to go for the petrol go for the TSI and DSG option. The combination is way above its league.
He drove petrol cars mostly so not familiar with diesel, I agree 1.5 tdi provides good pickup till 4k RPM, he liked 1.2 3 cylinder motor more
GT isn't available as of now so he booked the petrol 1.2.
No discounts or any kinda gift is available with polo with their new polo.
205/65-15 will be overkill for 1.2 petrol ? what would be ideal upsize ?
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He drove petrol cars mostly so not familiar with diesel, I agree 1.5 tdi provides good pickup till 4k RPM, he liked 1.2 3 cylinder motor more
GT isn't available as of now so he booked the petrol 1.2.
No discounts or any kinda gift is available with polo with their new polo.
205/65-15 will be overkill for 1.2 petrol ? what would be ideal upsize ?
The ideal size would be 195-65 15. Look for Bridgestone ar 20 or Michelin primary 3st.
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what would be ideal upsize ?
196 60 R15 or 205 55 R15. Deviating from it would result in loss of braking. Michelin P3ST and Continental CPC2 are favorite choice.

195 65 R15 is a wrong upsize.
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Well if the 10th Character is indeed the year of manufacture, then in my case that translates to 2015 , the 10th character being F.
The 10th char is the model year. I do not know the logic, but typically vehicles manufactured later part of the year always have the model year as the next year. In your case since it is newly launched face-lift, I assume all the cars will be marked as 2015 model.

When I bought by Vento TSI in Nov 2013, the car was Oct manufactured and model year was 2014.
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The 10th char is the model year. I do not know the logic, but typically vehicles manufactured later part of the year always have the model year as the next year. In your case since it is newly launched face-lift, I assume all the cars will be marked as 2015 model.

When I bought by Vento TSI in Nov 2013, the car was Oct manufactured and model year was 2014.
Ah Ok, thanks for the information Rajeev. This is only for VW or does it apply for all other vehicles as well ?
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Ah Ok, thanks for the information Rajeev. This is only for VW or does it apply for all other vehicles as well ?
I think it applies to several manufacturers. But maybe not all. The first page of the VIN decoding thread should have the correct info.
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