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Old 19th December 2012, 18:34   #2416
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THings that i am looking forward for : can we soften the front suspension
Yes you can, The Front Torsion bar can be tweaked to make it softer
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On page 153 suedehead and xd2 had a discussion on the thar being bad through potholes. I too noticed this problem in the intial few kms i drove my thar and have been trying to find a fix for it. (1) the front suspension is too stiff and so doesn't budge to a pot hole. (2) the thar's body is so loosely put together its rattles like crazy (3) The noise when you hit a pothole is contributed by the front canopy under the soft top by no less than 50 - 60%.
THings that i am looking forward for : can we soften the front suspension
Please also check that the torsion bar settings are correct. My Thar was delivered with wrong settings and was very (very) jumpy until I got that fixed. When delivered, the my Jeep was actually leaning backwards instead of the usual forward stance.
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Now this is interesting!

Force Motors developing its Gurkha 4x4 to challenge Mahindra Thar next year

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The upcoming Gurkha 4x4 is based on Mercedes Benz's iconic G Wagon SUV platform, which is shipped to various armies and European Union nations by the German auto major. The Gurkha SUV is anticipated to come trimmed with a number of refined interior and exterior attributes along with a compete revamp in its under-the-hood character. The rugged and classy SUV is anticipated to come fitted with a 2.2 litre diesel motor, which could churn out an impressive maximum power output close to 145 bhp and a decent peak torque delivery around 320 Nm.
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Did they get "G Wagen" bit from the inspiraton that Force 4X4s are based on old G class design, or did Merc really allow Force to use the G wagen platform?
Can be true since the same things happening with Viano. Just hope they base the Trax also on an extended G wagen platform.
BTW. but isn't the Trsx/Gurkha already based on G wagen platform?
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It looks exactly like the current Gurkha, but with a CDRi engine. And how can they sell it for 2L less after adding a CRDi engine?
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This car is for sure juicy but no way it can be compared to the Thar. In my opinion, it can be pitted against the Safari 4x4 or the Scorpio 4x4 but not a blue blooded JEEP.
For the Gurkha, it can be a nice package provided Force Motors pays attention to build quality + Nice Wheels + redesigned Bull-Bar (current one looks too utilitarian).
And personally I have always fancied a G Wagen - this comes close.
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This car is for sure juicy but no way it can be compared to the Thar. In my opinion, it can be pitted against the Safari 4x4 or the Scorpio 4x4 but not a blue blooded JEEP.
Hmm, why? I have driven both Thar and Gurkha in the offroad trails. They are very much comparable. In fact, Gurkha has snorkel, front facing seats,HT and manual diff locks, which is sorely missing in Thar.

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Hmm, why? I have driven both Thar and Gurkha in the offroad trails. They are very much comparable. In fact, Gurkha has snorkel, front facing seats,HT and manual diff locks, which is sorely missing in Thar.
I would not want Snorkel as standard in my Thar. The car is high as it is, it barely passes my car parking. It should be just optional.
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I would not want Snorkel as standard in my Thar. The car is high as it is, it barely passes my car parking. It should be just optional.

What about manually lockable diffs?
I see this as a true USP.
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I would not want Snorkel as standard in my Thar. The car is high as it is, it barely passes my car parking. It should be just optional.
You can shorten the height of the snorkel to be below the roof line. That is hardly a show-stopper.
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You can shorten the height of the snorkel to be below the roof line. That is hardly a show-stopper.
Won't that cause the smoke to come inside the cabin?
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Won't that cause the smoke to come inside the cabin?
What smoke is that? Are you under the impression that snorkel is an exhaust pipe? On the contrary, snorkel is an air intake pipe. It takes in the air required by the engine. It is placed higher so that water doesn't enter the engine during water fording.
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What smoke is that? Are you under the impression that snorkel is an exhaust pipe? On the contrary, snorkel is an air intake pipe. It takes in the air required by the engine. It is placed higher so that water doesn't enter the engine during water fording.
Ohhh! Yes, I always thought it was an exhaust pipe. Thanks!
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I had a Thar CRDe with me over the past 2 days and thought I'd note my observations:

1. Exceptional engine/road presence: the best part of this vehicle.
2. Poor ergonomics: the 4X4 lever is closer to the left foot than to the left hand
3. Poor braking: despite the Thar I drove being shod with Geolanders, braking from speeds was a scary experience.
4. Zero feedback from the front wheels, regardless of speeds.
5. Hacksaw cut interiors.

Not sure if Mahindra is planning to sort out any of these widely reported shortcomings, in an otherwise decent package.
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Got delivery of my Thar CRDe 4WD today at Silver Jublee Pune. I am enjoying every moment with jeep.

I would like to express my gratitude, thanks to TBHP for bringing such nice forum where I not only learned but made very nice friends, thanks a lot to DB sir, Pratheesh and the Thar team for bringing such nice jeep for us.

I will put my detail review after some time till the time enjoy the pictures.


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