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Old 2nd March 2011, 13:15   #1096
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@DHABHAR.BEHRAM, I am guessing you are from M&M. I am doing some bit of research & consulting in how 'social networking' is being used by organizations to reach/'touch' consumers. Your interactions here are quite an eye opener.

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. At least now the populace knows how much effort goes into providing a simple looking part like canopy. Read the replies. They are appreciating. Now they can actually see the value for money in the canopy and finally in the whole vehicle. I can pen down such details for each and every part. Everything is in my head, I just have to type. I am not getting time to do it but I now believe that this is the only way to get 100% customer delight and build customers as brand ambassadors for life.
'Customer delight' & 'building customers as brand ambassadors for life' is not an easy or a simple thing to understand and is even more difficult to achieve. Organizations struggle for years and spend obscene amount of money and yet are unsuccessful at it.
Just by penning down your thoughts for potential buyers you are not going to achieve it. Most product manufacturers (and I am excluding the Chinese variety here) go through an ardous and a diligent process while developing a product. And just by detailing that for the 'populace' they cant aim to achieve 'customer delight'.

But what can influence 'customer delight' is positive customer experience all along a customer buying experience. Which brings me to the point that I wanted to make in the first place. I experienced the 'Thar' at the dealers. And what a disappointment it was. In this day and age, whatever the class of the vehicle, the kind of fit and finish the displayed Thar had, is unacceptable!

Nevermind the stated prowess of the vehicle, the fit and finish just made me stay meters away from the displayed vehicle.
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Old 2nd March 2011, 14:07   #1097
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Friends which color in the Thar do you like the best & which color is in most demand?
So far I have seen only Silver & Maroon Thars, Black & Rocky beige are still to be spotted.
AWD - I have been wondering about this as well. Though I have seen all the colors. To my mind - the Rocky Beige is the best color - and potentially the most in demand as well.

Though the black looks "mean" and I actually test drove a black one. I am not sure if there is any truth that black tends to get hotter on warmer days. Could someone put their thoughts on this. Though the canpoy is black in all colours. This getting hot thing - combined with the need to keep it clean makes black a difficult choice.

Silver and Red - I personally did not like them..Silver is still ok. Red is no-no for me.

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My Toredor Red Thar CRDe is registered and ready for delivery. I plan to take delivery by Friday this week. Need your suggestions on the must have accesories and also nice to have. Excluding the A/C and Hardtop I have a budget of about 50,000/- to jazz it up. Help me with your suggestions and also places in BLR where I can get quality work done.

Some stuff that came to my mind

Roll Cage - Are there any good roll cage options apart from what Mahindra is offering? I dont understand why the roll cage is shorter than the B pillar. Maybe someone can explain reasons behind this design.

Bull Bar - Again options other than Mahindra genuine accesory. I somehow felt the design did not go too well with the Thar. I like simpler designs from SA forums, but not sure if we can get it here or fabricate it. Again chrome or black is question? I could not decide on what looks better with Red.

Alloys and Tyres - I would like to upgrade to alloys and tyres that do not affect the car negatively in terms of performance. I would also like to go for bigger tyre size. What size should I go for? I liked speedy's alloys and maxxis big horns. My usage of thar will be as follows: 40% weekend drives, 40% city drives, 20% off-road.


Security System - When I am not driving my Thar, it is pretty much going to be inside my secured community or at work premises where it is well guarded. Nevertheless, I don't want to take chances and would like to have a GPS security system installed in it. Tcop is one brand that I came across. Any other suggestions or feedback would be helpful.


Secret lock to cut-off engine - Suggestions on positioning and where to get it done

Gear Lock, Steering Lock - Suggestions on Brand and where to procure them in Bangalore

These are the stuff that came to my mind. Please do let me know if there is something essential that I have missed out.

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But speedy isn't this the same as that came in later model 550? The flap you refer to is an additional but which comes in handy for rain water channeling if i understood correct.

Sreeraj's 550 has one of the best OE tops, still its not leak proof or anything. I have seen a classic which was beefed up, but superb insulation with additional soft thermocoal lining and all. Almost nill air leak even with that soft doors. This was way back in 2000.

Yes the current top is good but not the best that is possible, a specialist like Allen can work on this and make it better.

No i dont think so, this is like a slider that seals the top in from the side and allows a small part to stick out. This channel is only for the top and cannot be seen from the outside. This does not come handy in rain water channeling at all. Its only purpose is to keep the end of the top air tight.

I did test my car under the water tank and to my suprise there was no water coming into the car from anywhere. The force of the water was not exactly like rain but more like a dam burst. The Thar also has a Thermocol lining for the front section and this helps to keep the heat out.

Trust me when i tell you a seat guy is a seat guy, So wether it is Allans person, or My seat guy who does it, it would be just the same. The same Material used for the top is used by me for the convertible tops of my vintage cars. I am satisfied with the top and feel it does not need tampering with.
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My Classic has a soft-top made locally. And no, it doesn't have the doors of the Thar either (merely plastic cut-outs). Yet, whoever sat in my Jeep was spoken of the "chilling" air-conditioner. Refer to the comments in my Classic ownership thread.

I did check out the Thar soft-top two weeks back (pictures posted 3 - 4 pages back) and have no doubt that it will do a sufficient job of supporting the air-conditioners work. No, don't expect a modern-car like airtight cabin. But for a Jeep, it will more than do the job. If the air-con & compressor are on par with my Jeep's 18 year old air-conditioner (on which few will have doubts), the driver & front passenger will be "cold", and rear passengers "comfortable".
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Note from Support : We've had over a 1,000 posts, several of which are debating over the same old points (i.e. IFS, interior finish, hard top, air con, price). If anyone wants to still discuss those, please DON'T. Refer to the earlier pages. I'm pretty sure all possible viewpoints have been laid out.

If you have a fresh topic / perspective to share, please do. All other posts, which inevitably lead to going around in circles, will be deleted.
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I saw the U-type gear locks on two Boleros today. I guess, it should be possible to get them fitted on the Thar. But then the Thar has the 4x4 lever as well which could come in the way. I will try to find out the make and post it here and also some photos when possible.
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Rocky Beige is the best color - and potentially the most in demand as well.
black tends to get hotter on warmer days. Could someone put their thoughts on this. Silver and Red
I still have to see Rocky beige, what does it really look like? Are you sure this color is in max. demand?

I share the same concerns with you on Black, yes it would get hotter inside a Black vehicle.

Actually Im looking for a color that would distinctly differentiate Thar from other commercial Mahindras to avoid un-necessary flagging by traffic police.
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....Though the black looks "mean" and I actually test drove a black one. I am not sure if there is any truth that black tends to get hotter on warmer days.....
The solid colors -- black & white, make the surface imperfections (specially on the RHS) stand out and they don't look too good on the Thar. Or should I say, the Thar doesn't stand out in those colors.

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I still have to see Rocky beige, what does it really look like? Are you sure this color is in max. demand?
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Actually Im looking for a color that would distinctly differentiate Thar from other commercial Mahindras to avoid un-necessary flagging by traffic police.
Rocky Biege is the best looking of the lot and the Thar looks a stunner in this color. IIRC this color is used in the bolero also. I am sure, in this color + the shiny chrome bits will make the Thar stand out and can't be mistaken for any other ordinary jeep.
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Rocky Biege is the best looking. IIRC this color is used in the bolero also. can't be mistaken for any other ordinary jeep.
Ive seen Golden/Beige Boleros but they don't look good. Don't know whether its the same Rocky Beige. Does Scorpio also come in Rocky Beige?

Maybe if someone on this board has bought a Biege Thar, could post pics!
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...Maybe if someone on this board has bought a Biege Thar, could post pics!
The Thar used for this TD report is a Rocky Beige color. Just have a look at the first page of this thread sir.!!!!
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The solid colors -- black & white
CRDe is not offered in White, are you talking about the DI variants?

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surface imperfections (specially on the RHS) stand out and they don't look too good on the Thar.
What's on the RHS, could you explain?

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Ive seen Golden/Beige Boleros but they don't look good. Don't know whether its the same Rocky Beige. Does Scorpio also come in Rocky Beige?
Yes, Scorpio comes in Rocky Beige, there is only one Rocky Beige color common across all models using it.

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Maybe if someone on this board has bought a Biege Thar, could post pics!
Speedy has a Rocky Beige Thar.

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Scorpio comes in Rocky Beige, there is only one Rocky Beige color common across all models using it.
Speedy has a Rocky Beige Thar.
Shall check out Scorpio in Beige color then to get a fair idea. Maybe Speedy can post some pics of his car, or has he already!

Spike what's the current status on deliveries?
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Please see page 13 for speedy's thar pictures .
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Shall check out Scorpio in Beige color then to get a fair idea. Maybe Speedy can post some pics of his car, or has he already!

Spike what's the current status on deliveries?
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I did test my car under the water tank and to my suprise there was no water coming into the car from anywhere. The force of the water was not exactly like rain but more like a dam burst. I am satisfied with the top and feel it does not need tampering with.
Dear Abhishek - thank you for your observation on a very important point as regards canopy. You would want to see the small flaps at the tops of the vertical channels. Quietly camouflaged. . Show me one "seatwallah" give you an idea like that? Forget it!

It feels good to read that our effort is giving the desired result. By the way, our vendor supplies canopies for a costly European marque of sports car as well. He is negotiating for supply of automatic soft tops for one of the best world renowned sports car iconic marques.

Dear all - so guys, that's the Thar CRDe for you with respect to "everything else". .

We Indians are second to none in the world. In M&M, we are committed to become world beaters. Thank you and JAI HO.

Best regards,

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