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Old 12th August 2015, 19:35   #61
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Default Re: ARTICLE: Common SCAMS Encountered on Indian Roads - A Compendium

Reading all these scams made me feel very very scary.

BTW thank you for sharing this.
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Old 8th September 2015, 15:06   #62
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Default Re: Traffic and life on the road in Chennai**ALERT** Woman Requesting Help with Medicines

**ALERT** Woman Requesting Help with Medicines at Traffic Signals in Chennai

Last week, while I was on the LB Road Signal heading towards Kottivakkam, this old lady approached me asking for help to buy some medicines. She was very old and apparently cannot walk without a walking stick. She was carrying a couple of wrappers and requested money to buy those medicines. She looked genuine and I asked if it is okay if I give her the medicines instead of money and she agreed. I asked her to wait there and went further and parked the car after crossing the signal.

I went back to her, collected the wrappers to identify the medicines and walked to a store. The possibility of she returning the medicines and getting the money was in mind and for that reason I went to a store that is inside a lane, completely out of her sight. One of the tablet was a dietary supplement and that triggered an alert. I have decided to check the genuineness and approached some of the nearby medical stores.

The second store identified the wrappers and confirmed that the woman indeed is trying to make money. If people give her medicines instead of money, she return them to the stores and get the money (Around Rs. 300). I have reported this to the police on the signal and requested them to check if she genuinely need any help and I went to work.

The reason why I am writing this now is that I have seen the lady again yesterday at the Kottivakkam signal, doing the same exercise.

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I was tricked last Sunday at the HP factory pump on the Pune-Mumbai expressway service road. (the 1st one on the left on the way to Mumbai 3 kms after the Hinjewadi bridge)

I stopped at this fuel station to top up my tank of petrol: another Rs. 1500 worth of petrol. I always get out of my car, lock it and stand next to the refueling attendant to oversee the entire process and avoid any scams. However this time as soon as the attendant inserted the fuel delivery nozzle inside my car and started pumping petrol a second attendant made his way to the front of my car. He casually asked me to switch on the car's windshield washer so that he could clean the glass.
I didn't see anything wrong with this, probably he didn't have clean water to wash the glass, and I activated the wiper washer for 10 seconds. When I got back to my original position next to the fuel attendant I immediately realized that I had been fooled.
The fuel pump was stuck at Rs. 400 and the attendant told me that there was no electricity and it had already dispensed Rs. 400 worth of petrol. He pressed some buttons and voila the pump started again. I was expecting the fuel delivery to auto cut-off at around approx. Rs. 1100 as by then my tank would have been full again, however to my horror the pump kept on dispensing petrol and it finally got auto cut-off at approx. Rs. 1600. So I ended up paying close to Rs. 2000 for an actual Rs. 1500 worth of petrol.

These guys had robbed me of my hard earned money with their dirty tactics. I swear I'll never go to that pump again and add this incident to my list of experiences.
Try complaining on the pgpportal (petroleum & gas ministry) - they're very prompt and do seem to take action. I did one recently and got a call & a letter from the company in a week. They even invited me to come and verify the quantity along with govt weight & measurement Dept people.
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Old 22nd November 2017, 11:35   #64
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Default Link rod replacement scam(or sham?)

My Polo is now 7.5 years old. Recently I had given the car for 7 th year service at VW Whitefield. The car had no complaints. But as usual the SA guy called up and asked for link road replacement. This part was already replaced once with no visible strain or noise. So I refused the approval and the car was returned with out the part being replaced.

But from day two after service I started getting noise from the front part of the car like metal clunking on metal or something is loose. The noise was so repulsive that you won't be able to sit inside the car with out music in full volume. I called up the service center and they were like " We warned you so" and nothing can be done other than fixing one more appointment which had 1.5 weeks away.Mind you this was a service follow up, but no drive in follow ups allowed since they are loaded to brim. The work costed minimum 4K + taxes.

I decided to take opinion from a neighborhood garage. They cleaned up the entire front wheel setup and tightened all the bolts. The noise disappeared with out a trace. The bill came to Rs500. So either the service center had not done any standard service procedures like looking for loose nuts and providing lubrication to moving parts. Or in worst case they tampered with link rod setup to aggravate the problem. Since I don't have any direct proof of tampering, I would call this a sham if not a scam.

Since VW has a monopoly on parts it is not very easy to get the service done outside. But if you have your own doubts about such dubious replacement requests please consult a local garage. This can save you a good sum of money.

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It looks like these A.S.S have a list of parts they have decided on, to throw at the customer saying it needs replacement.

Probably they decide this on basis of the name of the part and how important it may sound to a usual customer so he thinks if it is not replaced, it is a dangerous situation and that is how the technicians at the service center make it sound too.

Link rod story has been pushed on me every time I used to give my Figo for service. Every time I give them the same reply, grease it and leave it.

Recently I had to drop off a friend's Figo for a full service since it hadn't been done in more than 3 years. This was at the same service center I give my car for the last 7 years. Most of the chaps there know me and usually don't try bumping of some part or the other saying it needs to be replaced. They call and I tell them hold on and go to the service center and give my approval, since I stay close by.
This time since they knew the car hadn't been serviced in a while, they had options to throw at me. It is a petrol Figo and normally there is not many parts to be replaced as part of maintenance apart from the usual.
They wanted to replace the belt, gear lever bush, of course link rod and cabin filter. I don't think the Figo even had a cabin filter.

Long story short, the SA was not known to me and tried his best to convince me to replace of all this. I clearly told him nothing has to be replaced for now. As a precaution , I agreed to only the belt. For the gear lever bush, one of them passed a comment saying he will know once he gets stuck on the road.

I don't think these guys go the extent of making something loose deliberately for the the customer to return cannot say about VW

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Old 22nd November 2017, 15:18   #66
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Always take 2nd opinion on anything related to suspension , brakes and clutch. The common favorite parts of service advisors are

(1) Tie rods (2) link rods (3) Bush (4) Disk/rotor (5) Brake pads (6) clutch

The reason is easy to understand the labor/time involved is generally minimal if there is a lift available and some pneumatic /power tools are at disposal. Unlike turbo , electrical parts or engine there is no additional complexity associated with diagnostics using some modern tools and there is no risk of failure either. Any available rookie mechanic can do the job. The billing is generally done under some generic item like brake checkup and overhaul or front/rear suspension setup/overhaul so the labor rate billed is same irrespective of amount of work done in brakes or suspension

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My Polo is now 7.5 years old. Recently I had given the car for 7 th year service at VW Whitefield. The car had no complaints. But as usual the SA guy called up and asked for link road replacement. This part was already replaced once with no visible strain or noise. So I refused the approval and the car was returned with out the part being replaced.

Since I don't have any direct proof of tampering, I would call this a sham if not a scam.

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Have gone through the same treatment recently and can totally relate to it. Though in my case I got this royal treatment from MASS. I took my Baleno for 20K (Fourth) service and mentioned about the noise whenever one applies brake in Stop Go traffic.

So at the end according to SA brake pads should be replaced though there is healthy amount of life remaining, disk rotor should be replaced (for a car which has done just 20k km) and Link rods are weak too which may give up after some time. When enquired about the warranty claim, SA came up with the reply warranty is not applied to movable parts and those prone to wear & tear. Now there are two completely different abstracts, in our car most of the parts involves movement but that doesn't mean we can't claim warranty on those parts. Though parts like tires, battery, clutch are prone to wear and tear and rarely get honoured when claimed warranty which is understandable.

Since I denied replacement of any of the parts at my expense except brake pads, SA got rattled and stated in the service copy which is shared with Maruti that following parts are weak and customer denied replacement at will.

Shows how far they used to go in order to inflate their bills/targets. Pathetic attitude and behaviour, I had enough of such sour and harassing incidents/events with MASS. This has reinforced my belief only in one thing that my next car is not going to be a MS.

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Shows how far they used to go in order to inflate their bills/targets. Pathetic attitude and behaviour, I had enough of such sour and harassing incidents/events with MASS. This has reinforced my belief only in one thing that my next car is not going to be a MS.
I second that. I don't know my next car's segment, type(Hatch,sedan or suv), fuel type or color but one thing I know for sure is that it won't be a MS [thanks to the ownership experiences of Dzire (2010-16) & Brezza (2016-present)]
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