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Old 16th March 2017, 21:46   #136
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Another for sure, time tested method is, Read the Team BHPs "Accidents in India" thread just before starting the driving.
I will bet you will never wink your eyes, during the entire driving stretch.


My experience is quite the opposite. I make it a point not to read, see, listen or even think about accidents before embarking on out of town journeys. It kind of darkens my mood. Till very recently, when I had to post something, I wouldn't even glance at the 'Accidents' thread.

Back in the days when I used to ride long (relatively) distances on my bike, if ever I felt sleepy, I would sing loudly. Partly because of my brain getting activated and partly because I was a horrible singer, I would wake up completely .

I am an early bird. I enjoy driving really early in the morning. Of late, I have started feeling confident doing night journeys too. The 30-45 minute period soon after lunch on hot, sunny days is my Achilles heel. But that is just a minor irritant and can be got rid of with a vigorous washing of my face.
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Old 24th May 2017, 21:31   #137
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"Trouble remembering the last few km driven; missing exits or traffic signs". This pointer has become my constant self-check protocol during long drives. In the recent 600Km drive from Chennai, it helped me understand my capability and increase my tolerance levels. I started maintaining lesser speed, and chose to take short snoozes whenever I sense that its getting out of hand.
The point I would like to add is the effect of auxiliary lighting on lessening the fatigue on the highways. I suffered a lot on my Figo 1.5D during my daily commute, which involved night driving every single day. I fixed 4 hella 500 lights pointed at the road, not blinding the oncoming traffic. This greatly reduced the fatigue and irritation during the night driving.
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My experience is quite the opposite. I make it a point not to read, see, listen or even think about accidents before embarking on out of town journeys. It kind of darkens my mood. Till very recently, when I had to post something, I wouldn't even glance at the 'Accidents' thread.
Back in the days when I used to ride long (relatively) distances on my bike, if ever I felt sleepy, I would sing loudly. Partly because of my brain getting activated and partly because I was a horrible singer, I would wake up completely .
I am an early bird. I enjoy driving really early in the morning. Of late, I have started feeling confident doing night journeys too. The 30-45 minute period soon after lunch on hot, sunny days is my Achilles heel. But that is just a minor irritant and can be got rid of with a vigorous washing of my face.
Hello dailydriver,
Your post came as the proverbial shower after a parched day! My sentiments exactly - it was a relief reading someone almost taking the words out of my mouth!
We do a fair amount of touring & also - like you - like starting early. We no longer drive after dark - my eye-sight is no longer 6X6, and after a major shunt on the Sitapur-Bareilly road outside Lucknow a couple of years ago, we decided prudence was the better part of valour.

Early dawn I find is the best part of the day for being on the highway, and we try to make the best of it. And now that I'm out of harness after almost 40 years at sea, we find all the time in the world not to race against time, not to maintain tight schedules - in fact we pause as much as we like to smell the roses!
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I had a near miss due to sleepy driving of a moron exactly a week ago. I picked up my daughter and the two of us were going back home in our Zest XMA and we took the ORR at the financial district. In a few minutes, I would have taken the exit no.3 at Patancheru. I was driving on the extreme right lane, by the side of the divider and I was doing around 90 K. All three lanes to my left are empty and the nearest vehicles were at least a kilometer away when I checked the rear view mirror just a minute before. I wanted to change lanes to the left in order to take the exit. I was just checking my left ORVM in preparation for the lane change. Suddenly, out of the blue, a moron in a wagon R had caught up with me in my lane. Instead of overtaking me from any of the three lanes on my left, he just rear ended me!

No horn, no nothing; just a sudden double impact to my rear. I never saw him coming. I was focused on the left lanes. You don't expect somebody to rear end you when you are cruising on 90 K. On impact, I instinctively hit the brakes (this may be a mistake) and this caused a second impact within a fraction of a second. The second impact caused the rear wheels to go out of line and my car violently swerved left and nearly went into a spin. Both wheels on the right were actually airborne for a couple of seconds and the car almost rolled over. I don't know how I got the control back. I and my daughter were extremely fortunate on three counts:
1. The car didn't hit the divider.
2. There was no vehicle on any of the other three lanes.
3. The car didn't roll over

The moron was speeding away and I gave chase. He exited at Patancheru and sped on through the toll booth towards Muthangi without paying toll. (The barricades at these toll booths on ORR are always open.) I always keep the change ready for the toll, so I just threw the toll into the booth and continued following him. I caught up with him and blocked him, but he got off the road, got ahead of me, and continued speeding. I chased him again and this time I blocked him near the Muthangi petrol pump. He drove into the petrol pump in a bid to escape me, but this time he was totally blocked by other vehicles in the pump.

I got down and pulled him out of the car. This moron was driving with his aged parents on board and he pulled all these stunts. I demanded for his driving license, I literally had to pull it out of his purse. I then asked him to follow me to Patancheru Police station.

I narrated the incident to the Station officer there. When he was asked for explanation, this moron admitted that he dozed off at the wheel.
To err is human and it can happen to anyone. But what rankled me is the fact that he didn't bother to stop and tried to escape. If our car had rolled over, he would have left us for dead.

The moron is a student, hence the Station officer asked me not to register a case, since this might disrupt his academic calendar. There was no major damage to my car; just a misaligned bumper. So I agreed not to file a case.

The station officer made him do 50 sit ups in front of me and my daughter and his parents. He was struggling after 30, but the Station officer did not relent. Some of his friends and relatives arrived at the station when he was doing the sit ups. They tried talking to the officer, but he did not listen to them. He made sure that the sit ups are completed. He said he cannot let the moron go scot free after causing what could be a fatal accident and not stopping to own up responsibility. My respect for Hyderabad police has increased manifold.
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Hi Guys,

I drive long distances daily, 110 Kms to be precise and hence regularly make it a point to be well rested the previous night so I can reach to work fresh. But sometimes still, late nights can't be avoided and I end up feeling dull.

Heres a neat trick I learned online to keep yourself alert without even letting the passengers know and get panicky.

The moment you feel dull or as if your eyes are about to shut, lightly tickle the inside top of your mouth with the tip of your tongue, exactly following the centerline from your gums just above & between the front 2 teeth to the top centre. I've found this technique to be very useful, and amusingly enough, this area I'm talking about gets extra ticklish when you're sleepy. 1 sweep is good for the next 2 to 3 min.. and its frankly not a big headache while driving to do it every 2 to 3 min or so. When you're sleepy the tickling sensation is very strong and you cant help but immediately open lazy drowsy eyes wide open as if you've taken a drug or something.

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Regarding the best recommended remedy for sleepiness i.e. taking a power nap, here is something that could help. Listen to your favorite guided meditation or meditation music audio with the windows closed and engine running with AC in a rest stop or restaurant parking lot. I prefer doing this as otherwise, I am not able to take a nap due to the ambient noise and the sound of passing vehicles. It is most effective after a meal. Using a noise canceling headset for listening to the audio dramatically increases the effectiveness.
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Set an alarm to wake up of course! If your power nap turns into a 4..5 hour sound sleep and you get caught at a highway rest stop miles from your stopping place, with darkness coming on .. that's not fun.

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Regarding the best recommended remedy for sleepiness i.e. taking a power nap, here is something that could help. Listen to your favorite guided meditation or meditation music audio with the windows closed and engine running with AC in a rest stop or restaurant parking lot. I prefer doing this as otherwise, I am not able to take a nap due to the ambient noise and the sound of passing vehicles. It is most effective after a meal. Using a noise canceling headset for listening to the audio dramatically increases the effectiveness.
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Regarding the best recommended remedy for sleepiness i.e. taking a power nap, here is something that could help. Listen to your favorite guided meditation or meditation music audio with the windows closed and engine running with AC
When I am forced to take a short snooze, I choose to leave a two inch gap in the window to avoid Carbon monoxide poisoning. The symptoms of CO poisoning is drowsiness. So there might be a possibility of aggravating the slow poisoning by CO, when we close the windows and keep the engine running for AC. Concerning number of cases were reported where people have died sleeping in their cars because of this.

Usually I used to notch up the AC to mitigate fatigue induced drowsiness. That keeps the car cool enough for the few minutes of sleep. It also doubles up as an alarm when the cabin heats up, becomes uncomfortable and wakes me up.

The parking area should be preferably safe or we need to have some form of self-defense in our hands(I prefer cobra pepper spray) to increase peace of mind which aids short and deep sleep.

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