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Old 1st September 2010, 14:44   #121
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Wont that be a 2nd hand car even though its in the family?
Yes, on paper his wife will be the 2nd owner. A pro & a con to every situation I guess.
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Had you entered the buyer's details on the transfer forms? If so, send a copy of all the relevant documents to the Tardeo RTO with a covering letter (by Regd. Post please).

Or did you sign on blank documents?
A set of filled documents were with me. The full set are with the agent who is near Belgaum; that's basically why I am following up with him for so long.
There was a minor mishap while shifting residence; I was able to retrieve the papers, but they are illegible. The only legible and clear papers I have now are the Delivery Note, Photocopy of the RC and Insurance.
Will these 3 be sufficient? The agent who bought the car is in Belgaum and I cannot take out time to physically go there and get the papers.

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The only legible and clear papers I have now are the Delivery Note, Photocopy of the RC and Insurance.
To minimise your liability, send a regd. with ad package to the RTO. CC a copy of the same to the agent. Include a covering note (stating details of the sale, including payment), the delivery note (copy) and RC book (copy). Retain the postal receipt with you at all times.
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To minimise your liability, send a regd. with ad package to the RTO. CC a copy of the same to the agent. Include a covering note (stating details of the sale, including payment), the delivery note (copy) and RC book (copy). Retain the postal receipt with you at all times.
Thanks GTO. Will send the Regd.ad and keep this thread updated on further progress.
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Old 3rd September 2010, 08:38   #125
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I live in chennai but own a car regd in bangalore. Its a 9yr old Santro zip drive LS. Maintained stock, timely service and changed every part required. Still driving on it like cutting through butter.
If i am planning to get the car exchanged will i get a better deal in chennai or bangalore or it wont matter cause its the exchange.
Does exchange bonus and all that really equates to the actual value of the car?
Iam the second owner too.
Wonder how much i will get if i sell the car, thou it is maintained crisp with awesome ICE, upholstery, factory maintained...

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Okay my query pertains to selling my car, let me get back to cars history first for suitable answer from fellow members:

The car(Omni-E) bought and registered in Aug, 1997 in Patna RTO. Now I shift to Noida in 2003 and contact Noida RTO to pay taxes as I drive around in various states(Van is usually considered taxi and I might land in trouble). Noida RTO strangely refuses to accept tax stating that car being non-BS I cannot pay tax. So I eventually contact our family friend's in Tanda, Faizabad, Uttar Pradesh who get tax paid there after NOC from Patna RTO. So the car still remains as BR registered and tax paid in UP. The car now cannot be transferred to any RTO in India as its non-BS car, only the owner's name can be changed, no re-registration.

Now as I intend to sell this car in NCR, I have taken up the responsibility of transferring the car in buyer's name, cant risk leaving this part to buyer as the car is in my mothers name and the car will eventually be used to ferry school kids. It will be big headache if (god forbids) something happens within the transfer period.

From what I understand I need to get a no-dues certificate from Faizabad RTO and submit it along with other documents in the thread. Is that required or Patna RTO will transfer the name without no-dues/NOC from Faizabad RTO.

Regarding the buyers address proof, I will ask the buyer to arrange one so as to transfer the car into his name.

I have one another option is to drive all the way to Patna, get NOC from UP, pay tax again in Bihar and sell in Bihar. What stops me from doing this is the re-sale value is change in comparison to what I will get here in NCR and be it Patna or NCR the car will eventually be used to ferry school kids, which I would hate to, but do I have any other option?
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I am writing this to recount an awesome experience in selling my Alto LX 2004 (75000 kms) as I am now a proud owner of VW Polo Highline.

First of all I had purchased the Alto from True Value in 2005 (hence I am the 2nd owner) and I had a decent experience. Now while selling it I realised I couldn't be bothered with agents/buyers and the paperwork. Plus although I made sure it was serviced at regular intervals and parts were genuine when replaced, I didn't bother much with the body work, which had quite a few dents and scratches.

I visited a few True Value outlets to get a quote and also did a cursory online valuation provided by the True Value website. The figure hovered around 1 and 1.1L. I was happy with a 1 Lac + figure. Eventually I visited Apra Motors in Gurgaon with a colleague to get my car valued one day. Now the experience starts.

It took a while for someone to come out to inspect the car. The first person came gave a cursory look around and under the bonnet (5mins) and handed over the key to another person who did a thorough check (20mins). I was escorted inside the show room.The second person while inspecting filled up some forms. When we sat down, I was presented with a form which asked to state my price and if my price was within 1K of the offered price, they would add 5K to the offered price. I was taken aback at this and objected saying that once my figure is open he would definitely state a figure away from mine. To this the salesperson said that he has already noted the price in the forms that he was carrying but would shoe it to me only when I fill the form. So I write down 1.1L, he opens his form and the figure says 1.1L. This was totally out of the blue, my colleague nearly fell off his chair.

They added 5K to the offer and closed at 1.6L, but since I was not willing to give them the insurance they deducted 1K and closed at 1.5L.

From then on they started to process the paperwork and the deal was concluded the next day at my office. They gave me the DD and the Delivery note, and I handed over the keys.

I found this method awesome as it didn't allow me to go anywhere else hunting for a better deal. I felt really bad that the process took away my thunder and excitement of negotiation.

I would advice all sellers to sell through authorised/large Used-Cars dealers, many professional ones have come up. Its like one stop affair.
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I am planning to purchase an used car. I went through all the documents listed in GTOs post. The owner is NOT willing to give me the original RTO Tax receipt. He says he needs the receipt for his IT purpose. However, the Registration book mentions the Tax paid details including the challan number. Is this sufficient ? Or is the lack of Original Tax Receipt a deal breaker ?

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... So I write down 1.1L, he opens his form and the figure says 1.1L. This was totally out of the blue, my colleague nearly fell off his chair.

They added 5K to the offer and closed at 1.6L, but since I was not willing to give them the insurance they deducted 1K and closed at 1.5L....

1.1 L + 5K is 1.15L. Is there a mistake in your post or they gave you 50K ?
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Old 22nd September 2010, 18:09   #131
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I am planning to purchase an used car. I went through all the documents listed in GTOs post. The owner is NOT willing to give me the original RTO Tax receipt. He says he needs the receipt for his IT purpose. However, the Registration book mentions the Tax paid details including the challan number. Is this sufficient ? Or is the lack of Original Tax Receipt a deal breaker ?
Take an attested copy. This, along with the entry in the RC book, is enough.
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Old 22nd September 2010, 23:09   #132
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Like every one else A BIG Thank you.

My contribution to this thread, A link for everyone from Bangalore selling their cars or buying their cars. Transport Department

Browse through the list and they have three options for Transfer of Ownership
1. Within the same RTO
2. One RTO to another RTO
3. Another state to Karnataka RTO

For option 1.


Procedure for Transfer of Ownership within the same R.T.O.


Application & Documents to be produced :
  1. <LI class=style3>Form no CMV 29 in duplicate. <LI class=style3>Form no. CMV 30. If vehicle is covered under Hypothecation/HPA/Lease form CMV 30 shall be produced in duplicate with the consent of financier. <LI class=style3>Registration Certificate , valid insurance, emission Certificate, Fitness certificate in case of transport vehicle, Tax card with uptodate tax paid proof. <LI class=style3>Address proof in original as per rule 4 of CMV rules. . <LI class=style3>In case of LMVs and transport vehicles PAN card . If there is no PAN number form no 61 in case of agriculturists and form no. 60 in case of others.
  2. Three passport size photographs of the transferee.

Fees(to be paid at R.T.O. cash counter) :
  1. <LI class=style3>Rs 35/- for two wheelers <LI class=style3>Rs 105/- for Light Motor Vehicles (Non-transport) <LI class=style3>Rs. 155/- for Light Commercial Vehicles <LI class=style3>Rs. 205/- for Medium Goods/Passenger vehicles. <LI class=style3>Rs. 305/- for Heavy Goods/Passenger vehicles. <LI class=style3>Rs. 405/- for imported vehicles. <LI class=style3>Rs. 105/- for imported motor cycles. <LI class=style3>Rs. 155/- for other vehicles not mentioned above.
  2. HP continuation fee of Rs 100/- if the vehicle s covered by Hypothecation/HPA/Lease Agreement.

Compounding Fees:
  • If the application is not made within 14 days from the date of transfer of ownership, compounding fee of Rs 25/- per month for delay subject to a maximum of Rs100/- shall be paid.
Procedure :
  • Application along with above documents shall be submitted at the Registration Section.

    Delivery of Documents:
  • Documents of non-transport vehicles will be delivered on the next day between 4-30pm and 5-30 pm
  • Document of transport vehicles will be delivered after 2 days between 4-30pm and 5-30 pm.

REFER SECTION 50 OF MOTOR VEHICLES ACT READ WITH 55 CENTRAL MOTOR VEHICLES RULES 1989.


Note that unlike what Amit has mentioned they claim to deliver the documents the next day or maybe the link is old.


After a lot of searching i have just bought a Skoda Octavia 1.9TDI.

The car is in the name of a Company. I have concluded the sale with them and today the following documents were signed and exchanged.

1.) Original RC Book handed over.
2.) Original insurance Copy
3.) Sale Receipt Original - NON Stamp Paper
4.) Delivery Receipt-Copy-NON Stamp Paper
5.) Transfer of Insurance Form-Signed
6.) Request for issue of clearance certificate-Just in case
7.) Form 29-Two Originals Signed
8.) Form 30-Only ONE ORIGNAL(Two are required if the car is in Hypothecation. first paragraph of Form 30)
9.) PUC

I am tempted to try the RTO on my own tomorrow(I am free for 3 days so the Kheeda, moreover the agent quoted 3000) and hence have the following doubts.

1.) The original RC book address of the company and the present address are different-ANY Problems
2.) The Original RC book has not been signed by the Company-ANY Problems

Thanks in advance.

Fiddler

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I see no one has replied and by reading through the whole thread i got the answers for my question. The initial write up by GTO is just complete. Thanks.

Should i consider re painting small dents or leave it alone so that the new buyer does not get the impression that the car has met with a serious accident and been re-done.

Does the Hyundai company have any option to get the complete service history of my car from the day it has been bought?
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Should i consider re painting small dents or leave it alone so that the new buyer does not get the impression that the car has met with a serious accident and been re-done.
My take: Leave them be. It presents an honest picture of the car and the buyer will decide on the best course of action once he/she acquires the car. Of course, you may a loose a few thousands in the bargain, but that you would've lost anyway courtesy of the painting/touching up + buyer bargaining for discounts once he/she starts feeling that the car was re-done because of an accident.

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Does the Hyundai company have any option to get the complete service history of my car from the day it has been bought?
I'm sure they do. It must be very important for them to maintain centralized computerized records to take care of any warranty claims, should the car have visited multiple service centres in its lifetime (a very high possibility considering the higher mobility of working class people these days).

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My Query

My friend is selling his old esteem (REALLY old i.e. April '96) and the car is registered in another state. I am in Delhi and want to purchase this car from him and change the ownership to me and possibly re-register the car in my name.

The details are as follows
  • The car is registered in his name and his Himachal Pradesh address
  • I live in Delhi and want to use it here.
Is it possible to register the car with a DL number and change the ownership to me? I am aware of the emission norms at the present, so how do I go about this?

Thanks in advance
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