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Old 6th May 2013, 21:43   #226
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I am back with the updates the updates. a week after the last post I had got the new tyres from Scarlet rider theceat secura 3.50.8 tyres and YES the scooter rides and feels better especially while cornering its more confident now. I will upload the pictres soon

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Nice to hear that the 150 is healthy and giving you all those memorable rides. Enjoy.

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I am back with the updates

Just completed 1024 kms on the meter now and the vehicle is due for first service. however when i spoke to my mechanic he seems to be usy and will let me know when i get contact him for service. however a couple of challenges faced at the moment:

1. when the vehicle is started it gibves a buzzing sound from the kick lever area seems there is a problem as the kick shaft is not getting back completely and the sound is as if somethng is rubbing against the gears.

2. this sound is more prominent when the cluch is depressed in first and second gear but minimal on third gear

I suspect a problem wither with the rubber bushings inside the engine chamber on the either side of kick shaft might have worn out (as dissected by a local mechanic in my area)or with the clutch plates as I assume

I am getting really concerned now as the pick up is also getting low.

Request Inputs on the same. Experts please help me out

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Today again I showed the scooter to a different mechanic who either suspects a problem with the kick shaft or with the oil seal in it could be a oil leakage. I am planning to get it serviced on Sunday. Hope things are not as bad.

For Kick starter repair the local mechanic gave an estimate of Rs 500.

Today I contacted a new mechanic who is considered a specialist in scooters about 5 kms away from my house he gave the estimate of Rs 750.00 for kick shaft repair

Also the estimate for service is mentioned below

1. Servicing charges : Rs 150.00
2. washing charges: Rs 60.00
3 Oil change seperately charged as per the rate

In total I am anticipating a jhatka of Rs 1000.00.

I tried calling my mechanic who did the scooter but the network is unavailable will try again soon.One more challenge is my mechanic is near safilguda which is 25kms away and he is not open on Sundays..

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As you have rightly said it should be a problem with the kick lever and its release mechanism.
Do you still suspect a clutch problem ? A new clutch does not wear off within 1000 kms.
If it is a clutch problem, the engine rpm will be quite high and will not match the wheel rpm. That means the engine will work more and the scooter will not move commensurate with the engine rpm. There is a loss of power and that is a sure shot sign of clutch failure.

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As you have rightly said it should be a problem with the kick lever and its release mechanism.
Do you still suspect a clutch problem ? A new clutch does not wear off within 1000 kms.
If it is a clutch problem, the engine rpm will be quite high and will not match the wheel rpm. That means the engine will work more and the scooter will not move commensurate with the engine rpm. There is a loss of power and that is a sure shot sign of clutch failure.
Hi Anjan Sir

Thanks for coming in for help as always. Yes as you say I also suspect a problem with the Kick release mechanism. I assume that the kick pads might have been worn out I am waiting to call my mechanic to check on the estimated cost of the same. Hopefully it should be resolved soon

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I have finally dropped the scooter at my mechanics place in safilguda for complete servicing and repair of the kick issue.

To address the issue with the kick lever he will open the engine chamber and check the kick shafts and the bushes therein as that might be the cause of problem as per him

The following are the jobs that he normally does in service:
Complete Body Wash.
Removal of cylender Head and decarbonising the psiton and the cylender.
Carburettor removal and cleaning thereafter the same is tuned.
Ignition Points resetting if required.
Greasing the front suspension hub pin, the gear lever and gear shifter
Removal and cleaning of break drums and break shoes for anypossible trace of dirt or oil.
Checking the electrical system to ensure that the headlight , the speedometer light, the tail light and the brake lights are working properly. In my case the scooter needs a new bulb for brake light
Finally removing the engine oil and replacing the same with new oil

I checked the manual on the type of oil enclosing below image of the lubrication chart (source : www.scooter help .com) I am closing the details and features of the same oil at the end for your reference





He has given me an Estimate of around INR1000 to 1200 approx for the complete job including repair and service.

Estimated time for completion is till Monday Evening or Tuesday at the Max.

I also happened to meet my painter in safilguda area who was surprised to see the shine on the scooter even after 1.5 years of restoration. In fact there was a gentle man who refused to believe that the restoration was completed then and thought that he had just painted the vehicle now. Of course he did not stop complimenting me on the way the vehicle had been maintained. The best part is people on the road still comment with a wow on seeing the scooter and I just thank them and smile back. Athough I had been planningto get the vehicle repaired for the last two weeks ,its just a strange co incidence that I gave the vehicle for service on June 1st which used to be his BIrthday moments like these makes me miss my dad even more.

Hope the issue gets resolved soon.

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Old 2nd June 2013, 15:15   #232
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Sushil, good to hear that your scooter has been given for servicing after the first 1000 kms. The list of jobs that are going to be done on the scooter look fine except for the one that says : "Removal of cylinder head and decarbonising the piston and the cylinder". With the scooter having clocked just about 1000-1100 kms, I feel that decarbonising is not required at this stage. This can be done once you complete at least 5000 kms.
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Sushil, except for the one that says : "Removal of cylinder head and decarbonising the piston and the cylinder". With the scooter having clocked just about 1000-1100 kms, .
Hi Everyonr

Thanks for the inputs Rahul bhai Yes what you say holds true but when I asked my mechanic he said that the above is done to ensure that the engine is smooth . Of course I do not understand the logic behind the same.

Finally got the scooter yesterday and since it was 11.00PM by the time I reached home did not update the thread. The following job has been undertaken:

Full service including everything mentioned below
Complete Body Wash.
Removal of cylinder Head and De-carbonising the piston and the cylinder.
Carburetor removal and cleaning thereafter the same is tuned.
Also he has replaced the packing kit for the same.
Ignition Points resetting if required.
Greasing the front suspension hub pin, the gear lever and gear shifter
Removal and cleaning of break drums and break shoes for any possible trace of dirt or oil.also he has tightened the front and rear brake.
Checking the electrical system to ensure that the headlight , the speedometer light, the tail light and the brake lights are working properly. A new bulb for the brake light has been fitted so now its really bright and shiny.
Engine oil change has been done as well.

The kick shaft work also has been undertaken so now there is no buzzing noise from that end however the mechainc claims that the chamber was worn out so the bigger kick rod that he had fitted is not getting adjusted hence the problem crept up.

However now a new challenge has come up in which after the vehicle starts the kick lever does not completely return to the oh-ree-gee-nal position which my mechanic claims that will be fine in a few days of running and it will reset itself.... I do not understand this logic either.

Now coming to the cost factor. The total charges for full service and Kick repair came upto Rs1030 Of course the break up is as under:

Washing : 60.00
Engine Oil :140.00
Carburrettor packing kit : 20.00
Petrol : 50.00
Brake Bulb : 10.00
Front Greasing : 50.00
Kick Shaft Setting : 350.00
Servicing Charges :350.00
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Total 1030
Less Discount 30
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Actual Amount Paid 1000

One thing that really surprised me was the shine in the scooter after the service , For a second I thought that it was polished as well but was surprised to know that it was not.

I shall be uploading the Photographs of the first service bill and the scooter after service soon.

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Sushil, good to hear that your scooter has been given for servicing after the first 1000 kms. The list of jobs that are going to be done on the scooter look fine except for the one that says : "Removal of cylinder head and decarbonising the piston and the cylinder". With the scooter having clocked just about 1000-1100 kms, I feel that decarbonising is not required at this stage. This can be done once you complete at least 5000 kms.
Hi Sushil,

Great to know that a lot of care and periodic maintenance is going on your dad's scooter, appreciate it.

Even it surprises me as it with Rahul bhai that you had to remove the bore and piston for decarbonizing, was there any issues like starting trouble, head leakage etc that you underwent that decarbonizing, if not there is no need to do that within 1000-1100 kms range. Please check for the silencer also in case you find the pickup has come down, if the silencer is heavy then you need to decarbonizing that also. I guess you replaced with a new silencer when the scooter got a complete overhaul. Let me know if you need any part or help.
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Hi Sushil,

Great to know that a lot of care and periodic maintenance is going on your dad's scooter, appreciate it.

Even it surprises me as it with Rahul bhai that you had to remove the bore and piston for decarbonizing, was there any issues like starting trouble, head leakage etc that you underwent that decarbonizing, if not there is no need to do that within 1000-1100 kms range.
Please check for the silencer also in case you find the pickup has come down, if the silencer is heavy then you need to decarbonizing that also. I guess you replaced with a new silencer when the scooter got a complete overhaul. Let me know if you need any part or help.
Hi Bala
Thanks for the encouragement and support with the same. No there were no issues with starting trouble or head leakage thats why the piston was not removed only the outer part of cylinder was removed and cleaned.
Thanks again for the suggestion about the silencer will surely get it checked. Right now I am waiting for the kick lever to become ok.Appreciate you extending your help shall surely let you know when I need help

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Sushil: Did you fit a new silencer when the scooter was restored? If yes, then you can leave it alone till you clock 10,000 kms. If you have been using the old one as it is, then as Bala said, you can get it decarbonised. If it has signs of corrosion or damage, then go for a new one.
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Sushil: Did you fit a new silencer when the scooter was restored? If yes, then you can leave it alone till you clock 10,000 kms. If you have been using the old one as it is, then as Bala said, you can get it decarbonised. If it has signs of corrosion or damage, then go for a new one.
Hi Rahul Bhai the silencer was new after the restoration but since the ones fitted were of chetak we reverted back to the old ones.I guess they are still good for a few more kms but its always a good idea to get it decarbonised.

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Hi All

Hope everyone is keeping in the best of health and spirits. I have been away from this thread for a long time and have not been updating the experieinces as at the moment my scooter has been in the hibernation mode because of the rains. waiting for the rains to stop fully before getting the same out. In fact feeling nostalgic and looking forward to ride the same again.
Just saw a video and felt great. sharing the same. Courtsey: youtube



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I am really missing the scooter so was browsing the net to learn more where in I found the below article ,read it and now am feeling enthusiastic again to restore and preserve one more scooter. Hopefully I should be able to do the same for my brother from Mumbai once he sends it to hyderabad...Keeping fingers crossed... Right now waiting for rains to completely stop so that I can go on a ride with my babe.

In the meantime presenting the article that I read for you all...Enjoy

Source:http://www.hindustantimes.com

Delhi drives new love for vintage scooters stop
Manoj Sharma, Hindustan Times New Delhi, April 27, 2013
First Published: 23:43 IST(27/4/2013) | Last Updated: 01:55 IST(28/4/2013)


Varun Katiyar, an IT student, spends most of his time with scooter mechanics — many of them are his friends. He carries a bag that has scooter parts such as speedometer, floorboard bindings and chromed mirrors in it. As he arrives at a roadside Noida café on a 1980s vintage yellow and black Bajaj Super, a young crowd gathers around it and start clicking pictures on their mobiles.


Sunny S Anand at his scooter restoration workshop in Nilothi Extension in West Delhi. (HT Photo)
“Well, that is my mission: to get youngsters interested in scooters again,” he grins.

Katiyar, 24, recently founded the Delhi Scooter Club. It organises scooter rides and meetings as a means to achieve his mission. While cities such as Bangalore, Hyderabad and Pune have their own active scooter clubs, mostly run by youngsters, his is the Capital’s first.

“There was a time when scooters were the symbol of middle class mobility. I wish to restore the lost charm,” says Katiyar, who restores and modifies vintage scooters. “A lot of young Delhiites and foreigners are approaching me for restoration of vintage scooters,” he says.


After Bajaj Auto stopped producing scooters in 2010, the country has seen a growing interest in the vehicle. Delhi has emerged as a global centre of scooter restoration with about two dozen scooter firms remaking and shipping vintage scooters all over the world.

The sale of second-hand scooters in Nai Wala in Karol Bagh, one of the country’s largest second-hand two-wheeler markets, has been increasing. “If you thought it is the end of the road for scooters, you are wrong. I sell about 25 second-hand scooters a month. While Delhiites want Bajaj Chetak, foreigners and expats look for old Vespas and Lambrettas. Some use them, while others keep them in their drawing rooms,” says Gulshan Kumar Marwah, 63, a second-hand scooter dealer in ‘Gali number 35’, in Nai Wala.

Restoration Capital

Hundreds of vintage scooters are restored in the Capital every month and shipped to countries such as Australia, the UK and other parts of Europe.

Sunny S Anand is one such dealer who runs Vespabretta, a company that restores and ships around 80 scooters every year. His workshop in located in Nilothi Extension in west Delhi. “Most vintage Lambrettas I restore are shipped to the UK, while there is a huge demand for Vespas in European countries such as France. We make sure the restored scooters look as good as new,” says Anand, 37. He showed the restored scooters, including a gleaming rosso red and turquoise Lambretta of the 1970s and light blue Vespas of the 1960s.

Anand’s warehouse is full of old dilapidated vintage scooters, including Vespa 150, Allwyn Pushpak, Vijay Super and Priya bearing registration numbers of states as far as Meghalaya, Maharashtra, MP and Andhra Pradesh.

“Restoring vintage scooters is a work of art. The cost ranges anything between R50,000 and 4 lakh,” says Deep Puri, who runs Vintage Auto World in east Delhi. In the vintage market, Lambretta LD, produced in the 1950s, is the most sought after scooter.

A drive down the memory lane

Sunit Chopra, 71, a resident of Janakpuri, gets nostalgic as he talks about the 1970s and 80s when the scooter ruled the Capital’s roads. “When I bought my first scooter in the 1970s, my neighbours were envious. A scooter in the 1960s would cost anywhere between Rs. 2500 and Rs. 3000,” he says.

Until the 1980’s, a scooter signified high social status and youngsters would save money to buy one before they got married. It was the most desirable item in the dowry market. The waiting time for Bajaj scooters could be over five years. “The allotment letter of a scooter could be sold for double the price of a scooter. Many people applied under foreign currency quota scheme to get them faster,” says Marwah.

Katiyar says geared scooters lost to motorcycles as they unfairly got stereotyped as a vehicle of middle-aged people, and also because motorcycles gave better mileage.

“But many youngsters are now beginning to realise that scooters may not have the macho appeal, but they are stylish, reliable, have low-maintenance, and are comfortable to drive. I know people who have several cars but are not willing to sell their old scooter. The Delhi Scooter Club is trying to build a scooter movement in the city. And do not forget, youngsters are driving it,” says Katiyar, as he kick-starts his Bajaj Super scooter to leave for his workshop.

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Restoration Capital

Hundreds of vintage scooters are restored in the Capital every month and shipped to countries such as Australia, the UK and other parts of Europe.

Sunny S Anand is one such dealer who runs Vespabretta, a company that restores and ships around 80 scooters every year. His workshop in located in Nilothi Extension in west Delhi. “Most vintage Lambrettas I restore are shipped to the UK, while there is a huge demand for Vespas in European countries such as France. We make sure the restored scooters look as good as new,” says Anand, 37. He showed the restored scooters, including a gleaming rosso red and turquoise Lambretta of the 1970s and light blue Vespas of the 1960s.

Anand’s warehouse is full of old dilapidated vintage scooters, including Vespa 150, Allwyn Pushpak, Vijay Super and Priya bearing registration numbers of states as far as Meghalaya, Maharashtra, MP and Andhra Pradesh.


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Its interesting to find out that young people are getting interested in the old world scooters and some people are helping to bring the old world charm back.

Its also sad to see that some restorers send the restored beauties out of the country for huge sums of money. I understand that its a business but still it makes me sad to see that this national treasure finds its way out of the country.

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