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Old 2nd October 2014, 09:56   #91
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Karl, thats a beautiful restoration. I remember, near my home there was a grey Gazelle. It always fascinated me, but when I was small; I was apprehensive about those angry looks! Your car brought back memories of the grey car. All the best with your car and waiting to see the final pictures.

P.S: Thanks for the ton of information about Standard Heralds in the opening posts.
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Old 2nd October 2014, 14:33   #92
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Karl, thats a beautiful restoration. I remember, near my home there was a grey Gazelle. It always fascinated me, but when I was small; I was apprehensive about those angry looks!
Was this the car by any chance? This was photo'd by Karl at a scrapwala's around 10 years ago (can't believe tis been that long!) but was eventually sold and made into...something else!

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Continuing on the topic of the elusive park light

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1. The thimble shaped park light was similar to the thimble shaped headlight main beam indicator light on the dashboard of the Fiat 1100 D (was by the side of the ignition key). It should be easy to find this light if you ask for the Fiat main beam indicator light rather than asking for a Herald Mark II park light. You should be able to source this in Mumbai.
The Lucas L658 design park light seems to be the most period looking, shared from the Triumph parts bin, and the profile of the lens also matches closest to the dash jewel light on the Fiat 1100 (including the little 'fins' or buttresses). It seems to be the best bet for now, till we can confirm exactly what was original. What say Ram, VeyronSuperSprt, bulletboy, Stanher and others?

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Continuing on the topic of the elusive park light



The Lucas L658 design park light seems to be the most period looking, shared from the Triumph parts bin, and the profile of the lens also matches closest to the dash jewel light on the Fiat 1100 (including the little 'fins' or buttresses). It seems to be the best bet for now, till we can confirm exactly what was original. What say Ram, VeyronSuperSprt, bulletboy, Stanher and others?

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Karl,

These lights are identical to what was on our car. If you can get hold of them that is the ideal.

Best Regards & Drive Safe

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6th October 2014

Small trials continue, fine tuning continues.

The interiors are now fully in place

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As we were missing rear side glasses, one NOS unit was obtained, and the other one cut to size. I'm still looking for clean front and rear windscreens, mine are badly aged.

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A new Amaron DIN44 battery fitted. I swear by Amaron batteries, have used many of them, they really do last long really long ting tong

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The light clusters are now completed, and look good.

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Since I plan to use the car for long distance, we fitted auxiliary gauges for charging, oil pressure and temperature. A 12V socket added (just to charge my phone) and another dummy button for a second horn in the future. The whole cluster looks neat overall, and is easily removable, and reverting to original won't be a problem.

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A battery cut off switch added as well in the glovebox, since I didn't want to drill any extra holes in the firewall. Its discrete enough.

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Small trials continue, fine tuning continues.

The light clusters are now completed, and look good.

A battery cut off switch added as well in the glovebox, since I didn't want to drill any extra holes in the firewall. Its discrete enough.
Karl,

The car is coming out real nice.

Couple of suggestions

Light Cluster - the Aluminium plate - Originally in our car I think this plate had small criss-cross black lines. About 3.5 mm square like in the pattern below (or i don't know if I am confusing with the the Amby Mark 1 & 2 Tail lights)

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Another thing, everytime I see the dashboard, I really get disheartened. Please do get it changed. You have enough time and get it done by a proper woodworking shop - the cut lines are so bad - even my son in his wood working class can do a better cut that what is there

Believe me that job alone will make your resto look 100 time better, than as its is

Best Regards & Drive Safe

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Light Cluster - the Aluminium plate - Originally in our car I think this plate had small criss-cross black lines. About 3.5 mm square like in the pattern below (or i don't know if I am confusing with the the Amby Mark 1 & 2 Tail lights)
I think the criss-cross you mentioned was only on the Amby taillights. Here is the taillight of my Amby Mark 2 (a Kerala car incidentally)

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I have seen a couple of original Heralds growing up, and they had a plain finish on this piece.

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Another thing, everytime I see the dashboard, I really get disheartened. Please do get it changed. You have enough time and get it done by a proper woodworking shop - the cut lines are so bad - even my son in his wood working class can do a better cut that what is there

Believe me that job alone will make your resto look 100 time better, than as its is
Will definitely rectify the dash, but like I said before, first I want to use the car for a bit, it has still not set in mechanically. If I spend time on the dash now I will again lose a couple of days, and time is short.
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I think the criss-cross you mentioned was only on the Amby taillights. Here is the taillight of my Amby Mark 2 (a Kerala car incidentally)
Karl,

The Ambassador to the best of my knowledge never had the pattern as shown. maybe it was an aftermarket fitment.

The Standard looks nice, I agree with you, now time being short, cosmetics should take a back seat and mechanicals given priority.

Hope you manage to sort out all the bugs and go for a long drive ASAP, before the southern drive

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The Ambassador to the best of my knowledge never had the pattern as shown. maybe it was an aftermarket fitment.
Thanks, I too suspected aftermarket, but they must have been common. Here is another design I have seen

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Out of curiosity what was the original unit like? Just a plain steel insert? Any lettering on it?
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Karl,
I will try to recall, honestly I never paid attention to this in the numerous ambassadors we had.
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Out of curiosity what was the original unit like? Just a plain steel insert? Any lettering on it?
Original was - what is in your car - without the red diamond design and the lettering.

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Out of curiosity what was the original unit like? Just a plain steel insert? Any lettering on it?
but I remember seeing a couple of em that were plain but with "HM" lettering in the middle. Again, not sure if that indeed was original.
Best bet would be to see a few old-time movies!
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A battery cut off switch added as well in the glovebox, since I didn't want to drill any extra holes in the firewall. Its discrete enough.

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Everytime I see the dashboard, I really get disheartened. Please do get it changed. You have enough time and get it done by a proper woodworking shop - the cut lines are so bad - even my son in his wood working class can do a better cut that what is there. Believe me that job alone will make your resto look 100 time better, than as its i. Best Regards & Drive Safe Ram
Hi Karl, If you have the earlier template still lying around, I volunteer to make dashboard for you. You can fit it whenever you feel like doing so in future.

Raab rakha.
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Brilliant the attention to detail is amazing! For the tyres you could check out whitewall inserts, had used them on my Beetle in the 90's. some links to give you an idea:
http://www.portawallshop.com/
http://www.ebay.in/itm/Atlas-15-Wide...-/320980248283
Also a thread on these inserts:
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/modifi...utorunner.html ("White Wall" Tyre Inserts by AutoRunner)
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Hi Stanher, could you please e-mail me your contact info on my e-mail address : khizermohiuddin@gmail.com. Thanks I need help in restoring 2 heralds in hyderabad. Thanks
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