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Old 23rd September 2015, 11:55   #31
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Congratulations Behram sir , you dont stop suprising me sir !

Are you coming to the Banglore Fiat Meet this Sunday 27th September ? I will drving down this weekend. Hoping to see you sir.

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@karlosdeville: I'm quite surprised by your post where you called the laminate a Bakelite plate.

Incidentally, my family owns Bakelite Hylam Ltd, the company which gave the "Bakelite" plate its name.
Dear Jaideep, originally the car came with a plastic isolater (I have that in my car), this probably was a later modification.


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I guess I am completely nuts, but that's the way I am! .

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Congrats Dr. Dehram, she is nice. By the way can you share pictures of the select that your friend got. It would be nice to see.

Karlos, on the subject of knobs below the dash board - here are some references -

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From the thread -http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/post-war/37052-restored-fiats-super-select-others.html (First Page)

We have to ask Jayd chettan for more information on the model year / chassis plate of the car

Second picture is of our Very own Rony's car (but a 1964), from his garage.

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And another reference is from a very original Bangalore Super Select

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Posted at - http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/post-w...others-27.html (Restored Fiats (Super Select & Others)) (on the 27th Page).

I would request Bangalore guys to check with the owner of MYM 2246 on the chassis number of the car. Also some guys can date the registration number as well.

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Karlos, on the subject of knobs below the dash board - here are some references...
Thank you for this. However out of the three knobs that would have been fitted (fourth is blank), two are still intact and definitely original - it is only the choke knob that is missing in my car. While I have seen many Super Selects with the black later style of knobs, I have also seen cars with the older style with yellow inserts. There were always minor variations in fittings, and since I have two out of three of a particular style I will try and complete the same set.

On another note, I am missing the original rear view mirror with the courtesy light - can anyone help me source one?
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Oh my God! What a car, what a restoration, what a thread!!

Terrific job, Karl. Time constraints have led me to be a bit infrequent on Team-BHP, and I've missed out on a whole lot of good. Karl, your car is solely responsible for me getting back to spending long nights - nose to the screen, watching Team-BHP's awesome pages.

I'm assuming the car is still in Mumbai, and would love to see her and take a ride.

: Behram: Wonderful new acquisition!!
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I wonder what it would be like to use this car as a daily commute vehicle, with all those eyes prying,
Seriously, is the maintainence too cumbersome for a daily use?
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20th September 2015

Digging into parts I had bought years earlier, I found this original Italian horn ring, a cool period accessory.

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I only had one original winder handle on the car, luckily I found two more. Still short of one. These are aluminium, with the milling fitting on the inside, and a full black knob. Later units had an open top to the knob.

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Original item confirmed by part number.

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22th September 2015

Fitting starts on the final painted body

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The drums were sand blasted, though that gave the surface a rough finish, it would probably have been better to just buff them out.

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The wheels were sandblasted and primered

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4 of the 5 wheels are stamped J/62 - I assume that's a date code

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The horn I posted earlier was in rough shape. It is being carefully detailed.

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This is the first time I'm seeing Italian units for the side indicators. The taillights and number plate lights were Italian too, but one damaged and one missing, so aluminium ones will replace them.

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The first time I've seen this plug-in clip - probably for routing cables.

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23rd September 2015

The door and wiper hardware was treated - looks as good as new. Wiper assembly is original Magnetti Marelli.

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The meter surround was luckily in great shape with no cracks. It was lightly polished to freshen up. The meter was serviced too.

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All the original bolts were carefully retained and treated.

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The horn finally assembled.

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Door locks were zinc coated, look great.

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25th September 2015

Fitting continues - new brake lines made. Brake system upgraded from a mix of API/Girling to fully Girling - with a new master cylinder and wheel cylinders. I'm very pleased with the detailing.

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I only had one original winder handle on the car, luckily I found two more. Still short of one. These are aluminium, with the milling fitting on the inside, and a full black knob. Later units had an open top to the knob.

Excellent work and great thread Karl. We used to have a 1958 model Fiat 1100. The car was sold in early 2000 but we still have many of its spare parts with us including rear grab handles, winder handles, chromed On/Off switch etc. I will be visiting my hometown Lucknow at the end of October, I'll check there what all the parts we have with us right now. I hope we still have winder handle with us.

Below is the car we owned. We used to call it Italian Fiat (Please don't mind the dirt )
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Excellent work and great thread Karl. We used to have a 1958 model Fiat 1100. The car was sold in early 2000 but we still have many of its spare parts with us including rear grab handles, winder handles, chromed On/Off switch etc. I will be visiting my hometown Lucknow at the end of October, I'll check there what all the parts we have with us right now. I hope we still have winder handle with us.

Below is the car we owned. We used to call it Italian Fiat (Please don't mind the dirt )
Thanks for sharing - any more pictures of the car?

And any spares lying around will always be welcome, thanks!
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Thanks for sharing - any more pictures of the car?

And any spares lying around will always be welcome, thanks!
Here comes one more picture with the kid me .

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I'll search for spares and more pictures when I will visit Lucknow next.
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Dear Karl - although it is not very clear in the photograph, please verify the valve hole diameter in the wheel rims. Italian wheel rims came with 15.5mm diameter holes, if so, you will need to fit adaptors on the valve stems before assembling the tubes on the wheels, otherwise the valve stems will get cut, be careful. These adaptors were used as OE on Matador tubes. If the holes are 11.5mm diameter, then nothing is required.

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30th September 2015

The previous owner's son mentioned that he remembers seeing the blue seat covers from day one (or at least decades) - so I was hopeful that the original seats would be intact underneath. Was I in for a treat!

The seats as we pulled them out.
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Peeling off extra padding - the springs are in good shape, no rust.
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Under the padding we find another blue cover
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Finally the original material surfaces.
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After a quick wash the rear seat seems to be absolutely perfect.
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The magazine net too was fresh and tight - they usually sag, but this one has never been used!
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Close up of the grain - it would be next to impossible to replicate this.
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The exposed frames were painted for rust protection without disturbing the seat.
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The bottom plates were treated too, which had slight surface corrosion.
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The base of one seat portion was frayed, so it was carefully repaired to keep it from further splitting.
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The steering box was dismantled and buffed to a new finish.
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The brake fluid container had decades of sediments and grime on it, but it cleaned up nicely. Its of terrific quality (being genuine Italian), and hasn't cracked or warped at all.
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The jewel/warning lights on the dash and roof lights were also carefully cleaned to look like new.
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All the original bolts were zinc coated for protection and a better appearance.
These are the original wheel bolts
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Most bolts are still stamped FIAT.
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This is the knob for the windscreen washer - unfortunately the rubber has cracked. Need to think of some clever way to fix it.
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Everyday we find something amazing on this car. In this case original Phillips and Osram bulbs, stamped FIAT.
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1st October 2015

The engine was not opened since she was running perfectly. The sump was cleaned out, and engine repainted.
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Brake fluid container re-fitted, looks good as new.
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2nd October 2015

Oil filter container repainted in what I assume are the correct colours. Eventually need to figure out what decal to make for it. Filter cartridges themselves are not available, so was custom made.
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The original Magneti Marelli coil was detailed and ready to fit.
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Engine finally in.
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I'm really happy with the appearance - it'll break my heart to drive it home, by the time she gets there it'll not look half as good :(
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6th October 2015

Fitting continues. All new wiring starts to go in. A new alternator is fitted.
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The seats were treated to a good clean and protective feed.
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9th October 2015

The housings for the engine bay lights are refinished, and look good as new.
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The combination switch assembly is rebuilt and detailed. Pity we won't see the rear side once fitted.
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The siren that was fitted to the car is also being serviced. I forget the name now, but it is stamped made in England.
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Headlight base frame rings are detailed.
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13th October 2015

The car finally back on 4 wheels. The wheels themselves were blasted and painted, but in great shape anyways. A couple of missing clips were replaced, and new MRF Twin Tread cross plies were fitted. Luckily I had bought them some time back, now they are hard to find.
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16th October 2015

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We started looking at options for the headliner material. While a close match these days is near impossible, we went with an off white that looks pretty good.

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17th October 2015

The engine was started, and alls well so far. We are on the hunt for an original waterpump, if any leads please do share. The local ones just don't perform.
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Here are cast numbers for the plate, still needing minor finishing.
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21st October 2015

The headliner is in, and looks good. Luckily the grab handles and roof lights were present with the car, saving me trouble finding them.
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The original mirror was missing, and managed to locate a rough one, which was carefully restored. Still missing the aluminium jacket that is fitted on the frame to conceal the wire.
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Ashtray shines up nice
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Door jam switch was carefully stripped of paint and cleaned up.
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As most parts arrive from chrome, fitting begins in full swing.
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The engine bay lighting is set up
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The horn button was dismantled and carefully cleaned and serviced. Again, everything has Italian markings on it
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The steering wheel was always wrapped in a protective grip, so has stayed perfectly. There are some light marks of the grip wrap, but we are ignoring them for now, don't want to risk further damage.
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The parking lights too are Carello units
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The engine bay and rear view mirror lighting complete, still on Italian bulbs
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The siren that was fitted to the car is also being serviced. I forget the name now, but it is stamped made in England.
Once again a superb thread, glued in.

Meanwhile this is what you are looking for its not a siren but a gyro based immobilizer.

https://uk.storeslider.com/selmar-12...60045342e.html

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SELMAR-12V...p2047675.l2557
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Once again a superb thread, glued in.

Meanwhile this is what you are looking for its not a siren but a gyro based immobilizer.

https://uk.storeslider.com/selmar-12...60045342e.html

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SELMAR-12V...p2047675.l2557
Very cool, thanks! Hope we can get it to work again.
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