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Old 21st April 2008, 13:14   #16
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I need some clarification.

You said my beetle is a 1500CC right, but if I cross check the engine number it comes up as 1300CC with 40BHP. So is it really a 1300 or a 1500CC engine
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You said my beetle is a 1500CC right, but if I cross check the engine number it comes up as 1300CC with 40BHP. So is it really a 1300 or a 1500CC engine
Post up your engine numbers, we can clarify on many websites plus detailed guides are on Pavan Kadams thread. What is your year of manufacture?
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Kalyan,

Brat gave you the option of 2 engines, either a 1500 or a 1300.

The car is a 66-67 and hence to maintain the originality and to smoothen the transfer procedure the 1300 engine was fitted with a replacement engine and engine number punched on.

Present times all classic car lovers want the period look and matching details including the engine.

To avoid mix and match khichidi of the car, its been retained to originality.

How's the car running now?

post some pics of them.
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Post up your engine numbers, we can clarify on many websites plus detailed guides are on Pavan Kadams thread. What is your year of manufacture?
I checked on Home - inerd.it WebSite! & Rob and Dave's Aircooled Volkswagen Pages. As per Chassis# it was built on January 1966 and vw-resource tells me it is a 1300 with 30PICT/1 carburettor.

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Kalyan,

Brat gave you the option of 2 engines, either a 1500 or a 1300.

The car is a 66-67 and hence to maintain the originality and to smoothen the transfer procedure the 1300 engine was fitted with a replacement engine and engine number punched on.

Present times all classic car lovers want the period look and matching details including the engine.

To avoid mix and match khichidi of the car, its been retained to originality.

How's the car running now?

post some pics of them.
I don't remember Ryan telling me about the 1500 option. It so happened the day I brought it home, I was telling my friend it was a 1500cc engine and he noticed the badge on the rear saying 1300, so I got a bit curious to know if it was 1500 or 1300 engine because the ad you had put out also said it was a 1500cc engine.
Right now it still has the same problem. Will take it to a garage next week.
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@Automannj, Didn't u check the engine numbers or anything before u made the purchase??

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Kalyan,

Brat gave you the option of 2 engines, either a 1500 or a 1300.

The car is a 66-67 and hence to maintain the originality and to smoothen the transfer procedure the 1300 engine was fitted with a replacement engine and engine number punched on.

Present times all classic car lovers want the period look and matching details including the engine.

To avoid mix and match khichidi of the car, its been retained to originality.

How's the car running now?

post some pics of them.
Dude, your post is very confusing! IS the car a 1500 or a 1300 originally??
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@Automannj, Didn't u check the engine numbers or anything before u made the purchase??
No. Didn't know I could do that up until later.
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Dude,

U seem to wake up after a long sleep.

Kalyan, i remember the ad saying a 1500, and also the year 1966.i was also with Ryan when the conversation about the engine went on.

The 1500 cc was used as a personal taste. Ryan wanted to use this car with a powerful engine, but since he's selling he rather would give it as the original car as per the book.

See to make it simpler, the original 1300 engine was replaced, and that is year specific for 1966.

The book says a 1300 cc and 1966.
and hence maintained as per the book for smooth transfer.

I hope this would clear your doubts.
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The car is a 66-67 and hence to maintain the originality and to smoothen the transfer procedure the 1300 engine was fitted with a replacement engine and engine number punched on.
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The 1500 cc was used as a personal taste. Ryan wanted to use this car with a powerful engine, but since he's selling he rather would give it as the original car as per the book.
So it is currently fitted with the original 1300 engine? In that case where is the need to punch on an engine number to match the book?
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Dude,

U seem to wake up after a long sleep.

Kalyan, i remember the ad saying a 1500, and also the year 1966.i was also with Ryan when the conversation about the engine went on.

The 1500 cc was used as a personal taste. Ryan wanted to use this car with a powerful engine, but since he's selling he rather would give it as the original car as per the book.

See to make it simpler, the original 1300 engine was replaced, and that is year specific for 1966.

The book says a 1300 cc and 1966.
and hence maintained as per the book for smooth transfer.

I hope this would clear your doubts.
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Sorry to say but I don't have a leisure lifestyle Pavan. Just a correction, your ad said it was a 1967 and not 1966. My point is, when Ryan decided to replace the 1500 engine he should have atleast notified me about it rather than me finding out later.

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The car is a 66-67 and hence to maintain the originality and to smoothen the transfer procedure the 1300 engine was fitted with a replacement engine and engine number punched on.
So the car has a replacement 1300 engine?? Else, what's the need for punching??

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The 1500 cc was used as a personal taste. Ryan wanted to use this car with a powerful engine, but since he's selling he rather would give it as the original car as per the book.
The why bother with advertising it as a 1500 when the intention was to sell it as a 1300??

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See to make it simpler, the original 1300 engine was replaced, and that is year specific for 1966.
The book says a 1300 cc and 1966.
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The original Ad

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Car : VW Beetle LHD
Year: 1967
Engine: 1500
Documents: All upto date
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hey automannj congrats on the lovely lovely car..damn you are so lucky.
by the way, what is her top speed?
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JayD,

Mr Kalyan has got confused with the whole thing.

The car was not advertised to sell, it was restored to be used with a 1500 engine.

My friend only decided to sell when Kalyan asked for it.

and the car was sold with a 1300 engine as per the book.

Karl,

Replacement 1300 engine had a different engine number and did not match the book, hence punched. the stand could have been removed and put but Ryan did not want to touch a neat engine hence punched.

I have already spoken to Kalyan since Brat is not in town, his doubts have been cleared.

Kalyan.

I feel people here find a slightest opportunity to pounce on somebody without knowing whats the back ground.

Guys lets try and avoid such things without knowing whats gone through in the whole deal.

Kalyan,

There was a confusion and its been cleared, Lets find solutions instead of digging out unwanted doubts.

Kalyan you've got such a lovely restored original car with updated documents , and at a great price too.Enjoy the car dude.

You have not even checked the car before delivery, u said Ryan its ok and passed it off, Why crib over trivial thing right now.

I feel u need to talk to Ryan and clear ur doubts, I have not sold the car to you, he's done.

And kalyan pls reply if your doubts are cleared. Since this is a public forum.

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Pavan,
I am not confused but surprised to know the car I bought has a 1300 engine as supposed to a 1500. There could be a logical reason for the change but all I am saying is I was not aware of it.

Another clarification, I didn't ask Ryan to sell the car. I replied after it was announced for sale and I included you in this conversation only because I knew you were invloved in bringing this vehicle to life plus you were the one who had it advertised for sale as 1500 so thought you knew why it had a 1300 engine.

The only way to be 100% sure is to go back and check what number is stamped and if it matches to the rest of the docs.
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Pawan's responses are all over the place and not really addressing any of the issues in particular

From what I see in the posts, looks like automannj did get a raw deal. Which definitely goes against the spirit of the forum.



My tuppence - purely based on what I have read on this thread.

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