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Old 13th December 2009, 15:29   #196
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I reside in Mumbai. I require assistance on two counts. I need toknow the source where I can get a charger for the battery. Next lately, if I do not start the car for two days, it does not start. I had the battery checked and the guy says the battery is ok. Only the first start is the problem. once it starts, then further starts I do not face any problem. I have fixed an alternator from Lucas TVS. The battery is around 1.5 years old. Normally the battery comes for 4 years to me.
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This is a documented problem on all mechanical fuel pump cars. To get rid of starting trouble, install a UCAL FACET electric fuel pump in the dickey (below the spare wheel) on a switch. Before starting the car for the first time in the day, run the electronic fuel pump for 10-15 seconds then turn it off, pump the accelerator 2-3 times and rest assured that in the correct state of tune (refer the first post of this thread) the car will start in half a self. !!

Mumbai has a very active Fiat Classic Car Club. Please do join it and share the photographs of your car on its thread. Also we would be eternally thankful if you could scan and post the spare parts book from Fiat.

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Do anybody know about the carb's of 118 NE? I think it came with two types of carbs. One is Mukini. I want to know the other one.. I saw one original NE carb today. It had no name but only a mark on it which looks like a Chakra.
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Do anybody know about the carb's of 118 NE? I think it came with two types of carbs. One is Mukini. I want to know the other one.. I saw one original NE carb today. It had no name but only a mark on it which looks like a Chakra.
Earlier 118ne's came with a Hitachi carburetor (finding 'working' spares for it would be a nightmare) which was later replaced by a Mikuni. The jet configuration for Mikuni 118 NE carburetor has been posted by me on the previous page. Please post some images of the carburetor you saw to identify it correctly.

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Thanks Adheesh..! Will try to post the pics.
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I have premier 118, 95 model. I want to change the rear suspension bush kit. Can anyone tell me where I can get the spare parts for premier in chennai?

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Thank you mr adheesh for the immediate reply. I would get the same installed. The spare parts book contains around 250 pages. I can scan and send of any specific part - engine, suspension, steering or any other part and post the same. Pl let me know.
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Specifications of Engines of various models of Premier Padmini. Each one is different!

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Premier Padmini Deluxe
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Premier Padmini Economy(i think so)
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Specifications of Engines of various models of Premier Padmini. Each one is different!

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Premier Padmini Economy(i think so)
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The photographs you have posted are from manuals for cars from 1988-1991/2. The photographs I had posted were from the manual Hrishikesh had which probably seems to be from an earlier model (since the compression ratio is 7.3 compared to 7.8 on later cars ). The 88-91 have a larger venturi for better fuel economy (and perhaps to meet the 1991 emission norms) but this reduced the street drivability. My 1991 standard car came with a Bicsa from the factory. Also my ex-1988 deluxe car had the 24 mm venturi configuration on which I and President had done 135kmph while getting the car from Pune. Later on I replaced the venturi with a 22mm one and the performance further increased however the fuel economy came down to 6-7kmpl !!

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Default Very frequent driveshaft coupling damage on a President

One of my Premier Presidents has this new (and puzzling) issue with the driveshaft coupling for two months now.

The problem started in late october when I noticed coupling damage and replaced the rubber coupling with a new one of VIA make.

But the coupling was torn to shreds within two weeks (the car ran around 100 kms). Then this happened again within 200 kms of driving.

I haven't noticed any abnormal vibrations once a new coupling is fitted - but the driveshaft has ripped thru two of them in less than 300Km's.

Experts please advise on what to look for.
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One of my Premier Presidents has this new (and puzzling) issue with the driveshaft coupling for two months now.

The problem started in late october when I noticed coupling damage and replaced the rubber coupling with a new one of VIA make.

But the coupling was torn to shreds within two weeks (the car ran around 100 kms). Then this happened again within 200 kms of driving.

I haven't noticed any abnormal vibrations once a new coupling is fitted - but the driveshaft has ripped thru two of them in less than 300Km's.

Experts please advise on what to look for.
A similar scenario was highlighted by Mr. Dhabhar some years ago in his car BLB 1144. I am posting some data from Mr. Dhabhar's post which would be relevant here. The rear end of the mainshaft of the transmission carries a semi-spherical sphere. In order to retain it in place, a small circlip is fitted. The maximum propeller shaft angle with respect to the transmission centre line is around 13 degrees. The bolts then transmit torque. The coupling takes 13 degrees as there are wire ropes inside it designed to take this angle. Over a period of time, the sphere has a tendency to become a little loose and therefore there will be relative angular movement between it and the mainshaft. This causes heat buildup which jams the sphere on the shaft. For some silly and irrational reason, most mechanics tend to remove the sphere altogether. If so, it is a sure disaster because the propeller shaft's whipping at high speed will spoil something and the weakest link is the rubber coupling. Please check that the same has not been done your car. Also use genuine VIR universal joint coupling only. This should most probably solve the problem.

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Behram Ji,

Attached please find the picture of the cutout regulator. As you said I need 264 W. I saw the owners manual of elegent and it says 180 W regulator. The battery is 28 Ampere Hour. so 12 * 28 = 336?? I am confused.

For the Select it says 230 W regulator. The battery is 32 Ampere hour.

32 * 12 = 384

And to add to the confussion I have Exide MHD 700 Battery of 65 ampere rating.

But then these regulators can be set by some experienced persons, so I believe this will also work.

And Rony boss,

what a puckka Italian mall I bought, just 450 bucks.

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Yeah Manish, good find.

BTW I bought the "Made in Italy" Clutch Plate from Kripakar Rao.
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Lucas Spark Plug Wires and Clutch Plate.

Are CHAMPION Spark Plugs good?
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FIAT Service Department had issued this manual in 1962. I have taken a few pages scanned and posted. The specification given for various models are annexed.
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Default Oil change.

Guys, MRX 6839 will be getting an engine oil change soon.
I'd like to know what is the correct grade and ideal brand to be used for the Fiat 1100.
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