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Old 10th October 2009, 00:49   #256
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Since everybody is so fuddled with the prospects of finding original headlights for their 1953-57 Fiats I thought I might upload the following.
This is from a very rare supplement to the owners manual which i am in possesion of for the 103E's that went to America. Please note the sealed beams, now all we have to do us pretend en-masse that we have American versions of the cars. What say Karl?
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Old 15th October 2009, 01:20   #257
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Nice. I can add one glass to the list.
How'd we get AL rings made though.


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The hubcaps are from a later model, though better than nothing I should think. I would suggest pick them up. If you get your originals, pass these on to me
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Jawa/Yezdi headlights should fit on the dukkar, and should look close to original.
No, I didn't mean fixing jawa/yezdi lights on. As there is only one headlight of the type, though we could replace the flat glass in the existing rings with 2 similar concave glasses. There is a ring to fix the glass to the reflector, used it to fix the bike's glass to the reflector from the boot. Here's a picture. But turns out that this fixture wouldn't be close to the original.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2477/...9b788d0d_o.jpg


OT- Was wondering how a jawa/yezdi head light would look on the FIAT. Found these pics, the right side headlight seems to be yezdi one.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/attach...i-cimg5032.jpg

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/attach...i-dsc02071.jpg
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You know I always wonder whether Carello made replacement lights for these older units which were modern equivalents of the original two sided glasses. The ones on my car are from 1976 but still have the rear and front glass though the front is a sealed beam. The original ones (correct me if wrong Karl) were not sealed beams.

Yet I will do some Detective work with my Italian friends and see if we can arrange for cheaper Carrello equivalents atleast cosmetically they will look right.
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Amol,

Few questions as I look forward to start resto of my Fait

1. Where can I get those Fiat written mud flaps.

2. Where can I get the original Key blanks as you got?

3. Do you have the picture of the original Italian Ignition switch, which make it is?
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Amol,

Few questions as I look forward to start resto of my Fait

1. Where can I get those Fiat written mud flaps.

2. Where can I get the original Key blanks as you got?

3. Do you have the picture of the original Italian Ignition switch, which make it is?
1.) Fiat written mudflaps I got from the chor bazar in Mumbai, 600/- a pair pricey but glad i bought them as I never saw another pair again.

2.) Key blank came from a source in the United states charged me $15 for one. It is only correct for pre 57 fiats so if you have a select or superselect that is not the correct key.

3.) The original ignition switch that fits the key i have came from a source in Italy. It is of Magnetti Marrelli make and only works with a pull starter. I will post a pic tomorrow.

Finally which Fiat are you going to start restoring?
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Finally which Fiat are you going to start restoring?
I got A 1959 Select of which I have posted pictures on

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/1539438-post447.html

I will start a separate thread soon.
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I got A 1959 Select of which I have posted pictures on

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/1539438-post447.html

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Ah how we forget! The very original Select. The key you need then is different. Should be like the one pictured below. notice it has a G written on it. Mine had a D written on it will check and confirm it matches with a D on the ignition switch. Again I will confirm.
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Ah how we forget! The very original Select. The key you need then is different. Should be like the one pictured below. notice it has a G written on it. Mine had a D written on it will check and confirm it matches with a D on the ignition switch. Again I will confirm.
Amol,

I give pictures of my Ignition Switch, I think it is repro. Your comments, the outer ring is 25 mm in size.

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Amol,

I give pictures of my Ignition Switch, I think it is repro. Your comments, the outer ring is 25 mm in size.

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See mine has 4 connectors at the back, was very busy today but will bring out the camera tomorrow and photograph it for you. promise.
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See mine has 4 connectors at the back, was very busy today but will bring out the camera tomorrow and photograph it for you. promise.
Ok no issue, I will wait. Bye the way since yours is a pull starter system so I see only 4 wires going to switch, same is evident in the wiring daigram provided by you. Where as mine will have an extra wiring going to solenoid of the starter thus have 5 wires.
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Manish your switch should be identical to the later model units - the only difference you will find in your repro unit and the originals is quality and finish, and of course the key.
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Manish your switch should be identical to the later model units - the only difference you will find in your repro unit and the originals is quality and finish, and of course the key.
Wow, that is good enoughf news for me. The original key blanks will be bought in due course.

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A superb pic of MTP 8389 by none other than our very own official FCCCI photographer Cyrus. I never realized till I saw this photo that the best views of a dukkar Fiat are from the top, Such futuristic lines.
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Finally my MYB6563 will have a paint job done this week. Any color recommendations from the experts? I had contemplated Black but have but maintenance and the fact that it was not an original color have made me rethink.
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Finally my MYB6563 will have a paint job done this week. Any color recommendations from the experts? I had contemplated Black but have but maintenance and the fact that it was not an original color have made me rethink.
I believe black was offered as well.
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