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Old 10th September 2008, 17:45   #106
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LOL V-16, good one. I had summarised your above post in one line
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Old 10th September 2008, 19:05   #107
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Very Interesting Picture. Although I am inclined to agree with V-16's observation, I can try and find out the real story behind this picture for further clarity.

But I would require some more pictures if possible. I can then request an ex-MD of Telco who was a young engineer at the company through the 50's / 60's to examine the photo.

Oh and one thing is certain - There is no Gullwing in Jamshedpur now and had never been for the last 25 years!
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Valuable leads on the Gullwing picture.

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Now that one gentleman has been identified, I will give some info.
I got into my hand a lot of photos involving these people. The location must be in Germany. They must have been from Telco, witnessing the despatch of the first lot of engines for the Tata-Mercedes-Benz trucks. While they were there, they toured and someone took these pictures. There are also pics with a 300SL, vintage car collection (must have been in the 1950's, Germany and its companies were rebuilding, so a museum was not a priority, but there is a prewar merc racer and likely a Buggati with Veterans seen in the background), assembly line of 220S pontons, upholstry workshop, they were demonstrated the Unimog (perhaps thought that it is ideal for India). Then there are 2 pics of a crate containing engines, once without the cover so one can see the engines, and then closed marking this crate for Telco Jamshedpur. Later on I got some more Telco memobilia, a commemorative coin minted with the first heavy press installed at Jamshedpur and then mementos made by the apprentices.
Sorry, no gullwing yet in India, but the pic suited the thread. And we got to know one gentleman identity. Now for the others.

Now a dig at V16 and Karl. If you or anyone want to see the remaining pics, all are welcome to meet personally because such material should not be posted by a "newbie". There is no ego involved, I will be sending through Karl. Incidently, I have seen some admonishing remarks put by moderators (not mods) commenting on slang, sms language, etc, then what is a "newbie"? Just asking.
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Old 10th September 2008, 21:52   #109
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I can try and find out the real story behind this picture for further clarity.
I can then request an ex-MD of Telco who was a young engineer at the company through the 50's / 60's to examine the photo.
Ask him specifically for a South Indian person who was in a senior position, looking after the trucking division (ooops what else? Back then, Tatas made only trucks)
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But I would require some more pictures if possible. I can then request an ex-MD of Telco who was a young engineer at the company through the 50's / 60's to examine the photo.
Here is another picture from the set. Hope it helps.
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Old 13th September 2008, 00:29   #111
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Here is another picture from the set. Hope it helps.
Great pic. Harit has a way of revealing one pic at a time to keep the suspense on.
Well at least it proves the car is in Germany. That would be a Ponton they are standing next to now.
Cmon Harit let the pics flow.
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Here is another picture from the set. Hope it helps.
this is definately a 53 to a late 56 ponton looking at it door opening lever. and door pattern
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Old 20th September 2008, 09:42   #113
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May I request those who have a special interest in the 190's to post a detailed record of specifications, production details along with cues on vehicle identification vis-a-vis the years, the cars that came to India and those that surive. Ultimately all these marque threads must become reference material
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Old 21st September 2008, 00:12   #114
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I have seen, a few years ago a dark blue 190SL with white walls, with Delhi plates at a work shop. It had come to fix a heating problem. I have tried to trace that car without any success. That car was in immaculate condition. If it has been sold elsewhere then I am not aware. I think it was a DLJ number series if im not mistaken.
Anyone has any leads. I mean how many DLJ 190 SLs could there be in Bombay at that time or even now?
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I second that. Just because we have appreciated the contributions of some members,it does not give them a license to go overboard.
If you really read the content of this thread it appears to be 90% conjecture and fantasy, very little 190SL information or pictures for that matter, its mainly about Gull Wings, I think some others have already gone "overboard". As only V16, Prabal etc seem to have a sense of humour I will desist from my activities, and put on my Mercedes Benz hair vest, they never had much of a sense of humour over there either...
I have requested the mods to delete the non MB related posts, the others are just as relevant as some of the thread's posts and I know from email and PMs enjoyed more by many.

I second DKG's proposal that some serious in depth India 190SL details would be in order as V16 has initiated.

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Old 1st October 2008, 09:24   #116
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Another lovely photo of some Telco and Mercedes dignitaries in Germany checking out at SL, courtesy Harit.

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Attached is one more pic of the Telco group. Here they are checking out a 300SL. So far nobody has managed to identify these folks. Please keep trying.

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And a well known Bombay 190 (now ivory coloured) in an earlier colour scheme. She was probably Delhi regd earlier.

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Old 12th November 2008, 02:47   #117
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Shot this from the train when i was travelling from chandigarh to delhi...
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Old 19th November 2008, 05:24   #118
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That car seems to have come from abroad? I remember seeing some pictures of cars marked with the GANT logo in another thread!!
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Any Experts have any info on the above car?? I was hoping Harit did...
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And a well known Bombay 190 (now ivory coloured) in an earlier colour scheme. She was probably Delhi regd earlier.
Here she is in her ivory cloths. IMO no 190sl comes close to her. S.K. has kept her beautifully and takes good care of her.
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