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Old 9th March 2010, 19:13   #16
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@jeepster09,

Do you use paint remover ?

I used this before and it is very useful.

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Old 9th March 2010, 19:52   #17
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Nice project.

Black paint sounds good.
By the way, are you keeping it stock or modifying it?
Also where in Mumbai are you carrying out this work?

All the best for the future.
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Old 9th March 2010, 22:00   #18
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Sorry to butt in on this thread, but I was looking for some info on the Mark II, as a friend might be doing a complete restoration of his '66 Mark II soon.
Hi, Rahul

Good to know that one more and still older Mark II would be getting restored.

I too would like to know if there were any variations in the body shells of Mark II and Mark 4 Ambys.

Am counting on help from Anjan and other Amby gurus here !!

Could you please post some photos of your friend's car, especially of the dashboard ?

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Do you use paint remover ?
Girish,

Thanks for your kind suggestion.

My garage fellow did ask the painter to use the paint remover on the door sections. As of now, the painter is burning off the old paint and putty and scrapping it off. Once the metal is clean, he will apply red oxide and then the tin work will begin.

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By the way, are you keeping it stock or modifying it?
Also where in Mumbai are you carrying out this work?
SRK,

Thanks for your comments.

I intend to keep it stock. The work is being done at Kandivli West.

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Old 10th March 2010, 01:39   #19
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chill Jeepster, according to me Amby is the only versatile car which can be transformed to the latest ones and to the older ones (body modifications) I have seen many cars of 80/90 getting converted to Amby classic with the unique headlamp and a retro type loover with indicator on the side panel, I have even saw a Landmaster with AP7 (guntur) registration at Jublee bus station with scorpio (initial model) tail lamp in cherry colour.
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Hi, Rahul

Good to know that one more and still older Mark II would be getting restored.

I too would like to know if there were any variations in the body shells of Mark II and Mark 4 Ambys.

Am counting on help from Anjan and other Amby gurus here !!

Could you please post some photos of your friend's car, especially of the dashboard ?

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Sanat
Thanks jeepster nice to see the restoration in progress.
The Mark II and Mark 4's front portions of the body are totally different, from below the headlights. Have a look at the pictures of both and the difference is apparent. A Mark 3 body is easier changed over to a Mark II or a Mark I and vice versa.
Also check up the rear tail light ornamentation strips of aluminium that extend upto the C pillar from over the tailfins.In the Mark 4 (after 1983 and till today) these do not touch the tail light assembly but end about 4 to 5 cms above. Whereas the Mark I, II and 3 had the strips touching the tail light assembly. And there are no such ornamentation strips on the front fender top, above the headlight in the Mark 4 (since 1979 till today). Whereas the Mark I, II and 3 had such strips on their front.
Even the Landmaster does not have these strips either on the front or rear as OE !

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Anjan,

The differences you've referred to are with respect to cosmetic items like grille, lights, etc. I was referring to differences (if any) in just the body shells, between the Mark II and later models.

Restoration will obviously be done to Mark II specs, which will include the items you've mentioned in your post. But will a later body shell be suitable for such a Mark II "conversion" was my question.

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voodoochild as I said, between the Mark II and 4, the main changes were below the front headlight. So again as I said in my post please view the two pictures and compare.The first picture of the Mark II is posted by Amit V8, wherein the bumper guards are changed over to rubber ones (Mark 4) from the original chrome plated ones.The second one is fairly original and clicked by me in Hyderabad.The third one is a brand new one whose bodyshell may be available if bought new.
Other changes were ornamental.

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Jeepster,

Could anyone tell me whether the body shells had any variations from the Mark II to the IV and the others? We might just have to procure a new shell as this car has all but sunk into her grave!! Body is probably like an eggshell by now.

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the Mark 1, 2, 3 were similar whereas from the mark 4 things got a little different on the front. apart from that everything else is same. see the pictures posted by anjan_c_2007.
in your case, get a mark1/2/3 body & not a mark 4 body as that will add more work for the resto.

here is a mark 4 picture posted by a member sometimes back. now see the differences upfront from the mark 1/2/3.
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refer to this thread for more details-http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/post-1...e-gallery.html

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Old 14th March 2010, 20:52   #24
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Some more work got done. The scrapping was finally completed after a lot of dillydallying by the painter and now the car has been sprayed with coat of red oxide to prevent rusting while the tinker works on it.

We will let the colour dry till tommorow and then the tin work will start.

The colour has not been scrapped off on the lower portions of the door which will be patched with new metal sheet.

On underside of the body, I want to get a protective coating done like epoxy, need the names of some good brands which are locally available in Mumbai.
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Old 20th March 2010, 18:33   #25
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Body repair work of Amby has started. Also half of the required body panels have been received. One chassis part also received. Rest of the parts will be received in the next week.

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Great news!! the work has started. Do you get the ready made panels in the market? If so how do they know what kind of panel you are looking for, or is that common for the Ambys' to have corrossion at a common places. However I am so glad another car has got a kind owner and wonderful caring. Wish you good luck and I'm sure the way things happening the car would turn out a LOOKER!

I want to take this opportunity to salute all the owners/caretakers who give the atmost care and time for the cars/bikes to get them to the original state from a sad state.
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jeepster thats fine. Its good news that the restoration work is in full swing.I am always here for any queries and exchange of ideas.
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You will find a lot of satisfaction both in the rebuild process and in the finished product, my friend. Hope you run on time and under budget, because both of these things are variable in the car restoration world. Having said that, do know that black is an extremely difficult color to maintain. It is good to have, provided you have the time and the enthusiasm to keep it gleaming all the while. Otherwise, best go for a neutral color.

I will be watching this thread because we had Ambys as a family in the 70s and I still remember the feel of the steering wheel without power steering, the single indicator on the steering middle for the turn signal, the inner ringed horn, and the various methods of start, ie. use of choke plus the pull switch in older models, then the key and pull switch as well as just the key later on. My, my, how times have changed.

All the best in your build, and may the Amby give you many many years of motoring delight.

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.I am always here for any queries and exchange of ideas.
Anjan,

Thanks, am counting on your expert advice ! Thanks to you, I have increased my knowledge about various amby models and their features.

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Do you get the ready made panels in the market? If so how do they know what kind of panel you are looking for,
Chanu,

Yes - these panels are available, though amby panels are not as commonly available in mumbai suburbs. My garage fellow had ordered these from his supplier. The second lot is yet to be come.

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Hope you run on time and under budget, because both of these things are variable in the car restoration world. Having said that, do know that black is an extremely difficult color to maintain. It is good to have, provided you have the time and the enthusiasm to keep it gleaming all the while. Otherwise, best go for a neutral color.

Ranzy
Ranzy,
Thanks for your comments. with what you said on the time and budget things,lets see how things go. Budget will definetly increase.

I do have a strong desire to have a big black classic car with shiny chrome fittings,and this should come pretty close to it. Also the original colour of this particular car was black hence the choice.

Cheers,
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