Fiat 1100 / Premier Padmini - Parts to Stock for FUTURE!

[arun1100]

FIATians: Fiat 1100 / Premier Padmini parts are fast becoming scarce. Thanks to Mumbai taxis that some parts are easily available. But as these taxis will be banned soon, we might not get even the few parts that are available now. The quality of parts too are slowly going bad to very bad!

During Mr. Behram's recent visit to Bangalore we had a discussion with him about the parts that we need to stock up for future. He had requested us to start a thread so that he too can give his comments.

Fiat Gurus:

-- Can any of the list out the MECHANICAL PARTS that are still available NEW in market. Please mention the exact part name and the MAKE of these parts.

-- List of USED parts that we need to to collect and stock from the SCRAPYARD.

-- Cosmetic parts like Lights, body pattis, door rubber beadings etc..

-- Parts of other cars that can be fit to FIATs with minimum alterations like Mikuni carburretor etc...

Hope this THREAD will help our Fiats to Stay healthy longer.

[samsag12]

Good thought by you people. I even asked this question on the technical info thread as to which parts to stock. Will find answers here. I think cosmetics are becoming scarce and one should stock them in such a way that there should be no scarcity of it even after 15 yrs. Buy 3 units of the same part. Use one (if required) currently, use the second one as a replacement and stock the third one for future. Just my view of thinking.
I mentioned cosmetic parts as i see many old cars carrying the fittings of some other car model which utterly looks crap. The looks of the car are ruined.
Can somebody throw some light on whether to stock the delight bumpers for a sum of Rs.600-800. I am getting a pair of these in scrapyard. They are not the ones which require the extra bolt on rear side fenders. They are same as the hillram's delight.

[chanu]

I agree to what Arun, Samsag says and I feel need to stock what ever you find in the marked (New or Old) you never know what could be handy, the important ones are the cosmetics which cannot be acuired in the later years.

[funkykar]

Here are some of the things I can think of.
1) Side beadings and window beadings.
2) Couple of grills
3) A set of lights, indicators and tail lamps would be good.
4) A few glass machines
5) Door and window handles
6) A couple of additional carburators
7) Points and Condensor, and may be a full distributer
8) Cables (speedo, clutch, hand brake and others)
9) Accelerator pins
10) Hose pipes, specifically if yours is a S1
11) Clutch plate and pressure plate
12) Steering box
13) Horn button and indicator lights contact switch unit
14) Wheel caps
15) Float

My perception of some points may be incorrect. Feel free to correct me. If I think of anything else, I will post it later

[arun1100]

I plan to buy these parts right now:

1. New Petrol pump - KPACCO Make - 3 No.s

2. VIR suspension bushes - 3 sets

3. Silencer - 3

4. Air Filters - Elofic make - 6

5. Brake drums from Scrapyard - 2 sets - Size 1

6. TVS Brake pads - 3 sets

7. Lights - Sweet Trade make - 4 sets.

8. Wiper Motor from Scrapyard. - 2

9. Carburretor from Scrapyard - 2

10. Carb Major packing set - 5

[samsag12]

Not to forget the TIMING Chain. Its very difficult to get one nowdays as they have become extinct. I am hunting for one for the past few days and it is becoming nearly impossible to find a new one.
On a lighter note, why not buy an old fiat and disassemble it fully to obtain some parts.This way one can get some parts which we even didn't had thought of and would be fun dismantling the car. Of course rubber and wear and tear parts will still have to be procured but mechanical parts can be obtained from the old car.

[arun1100]

Originally Posted by samsag12

Not to forget the TIMING Chain. Its very difficult to get one nowdays as they have become extinct.

Yes Sagar.. Its not easily available in Bangalore too!!

On a lighter note, why not buy an old fiat and disassemble it fully to obtain some parts.This way one can get some parts which we even didn't had thought of and would be fun dismantling the car

Funkykar has already implemented this idea!!

Karthik: Tell the NE story if you wish to.

[vigsom]

Having owned a Premier and restored it post flood,I can suggest the following:

Originally Posted by funkykar

Here are some of the things I can think of.
1) Side beadings and window beadings - not required;can easily find substitutes
2) Couple of grills - agreed
3) A set of lights, indicators and tail lamps would be good - the Lucas700 headlamp does duty in many vehicles;no need to stock
4) A few glass machines
5) Door and window handles - yes
6) A couple of additional carburators - not required'the M800 Mikuni can be retrofitted with a spacer
7) Points and Condensor, and may be a full distributer - yes
8) Cables (speedo, clutch, hand brake and others)-yes,clutch is not cable operated as far as i know
9) Accelerator pins - ??
10) Hose pipes, specifically if yours is a S1-can be found and built
11) Clutch plate and pressure plate - MUST
12) Steering box-MUST
13) Horn button and indicator lights contact switch unit-not required
14) Wheel caps-not required;you get a lot of 15" wheelc aps these days
15) Float-MUST

My perception of some points may be incorrect. Feel free to correct me. If I think of anything else, I will post it later

Originally Posted by arun1100

I plan to buy these parts right now:

1. New Petrol pump - KPACCO Make - 3 No.s-not reqd.

2. VIR suspension bushes - 3 sets-reqd.

3. Silencer - 3 - can get a substitute(Wagon-R)

4. Air Filters - Elofic make - 6- optional - can get the filter plus housing of the Alto or Wagon-R

5. Brake drums from Scrapyard - 2 sets - Size 1-MUST

6. TVS Brake pads - 3 sets-MUST

7. Lights - Sweet Trade make - 4 sets.

8. Wiper Motor from Scrapyard. - 2 - Not required;can be built /repaired

9. Carburretor from Scrapyard - 2 - as above

10. Carb Major packing set - 5-ok

[Mehul1100]

[quote=arun1100;1758312]Yes Sagar.. Its not easily available in Bangalore too!!

Thanks Arun Sir for altering all Fiatians about parts scarcity we all are about to face. I got a few things extra with me as follows.

CARBURATOR 1

AIR FILTER 1

S1 CARB PACKING 1

PADMINI STREERING 1

GLASS WINDOR 1

CHOKE CABLE 1

BONNET CABLE 1

TEMPERATURE GAUGE 1

TAIL GLASS COVER 2

C PILLAR PANEL 2

COLUM SHIFT ROD BUSH SET 1

VIR SUSPENSION BUSH SET 1

Above all one great team of Fiat mechanics in Coimbatore who have pilled up some stocks for customer like me.

Again thank you Arun Sir for the effort you take for all of us, hats off to you.

[samsag12]

Arun bhai why not mention some indicative price also for the parts. This will help everybody to stock the parts which they can afford as and when they have some money to spend. I wonder is it good to stock the various rubber parts such as
1. Front and rear windshield rubber lining
2. Window glass beading
3. Dicky rubber lining
4. Mud flaps.
5. bumper guards
6. Door rubber gola set
7. various rubber and other metal packings of engine compartment.
8. Head gasket
9 Rocker cover gasket.etc
Can these be stored for say at least 10-15 yrs and how to store them i.e. how to make them last longer apart from heat protection.

[funkykar]

Originally Posted by arun1100

I plan to buy these parts right now:

1. New Petrol pump - KPACCO Make - 3 No.s

2. VIR suspension bushes - 3 sets

3. Silencer - 3

4. Air Filters - Elofic make - 6

5. Brake drums from Scrapyard - 2 sets - Size 1

6. TVS Brake pads - 3 sets

7. Lights - Sweet Trade make - 4 sets.

8. Wiper Motor from Scrapyard. - 2

9. Carburretor from Scrapyard - 2

10. Carb Major packing set - 5

Super! I agree with all your points Arun. Why dont you collate everything into a shared excel sheet?

[arun1100]

Sagar: Once I buy these parts, I will mention their exact prices too.

[samsag12]

Just for the info till date i am able to stock some parts such as
1. New type speedometer
2. President speedometer
3. Old type combination switch
4. Dry air filter box(new design)
5. Horn button (including old President model )
6. side indicator lights
7. Rear no. plate light set
8. Original S1 bicsa M32 carburetor
9. Ucal fuel pump
10. bumper guards
11. Original S1 dome type head lights
12. original lucas and lumax headlamps
13. Sunax front grill
14. Aluminum side pattis NOS
15. Windshield washer jet knobs
16. PREMIER badge NEW TYPE
17. Original Plastic wheel caps S1(silver color) 3

Will be getting the following parts from scrapyard
1. Wiper motor set
2. Aluminum side pattis
3. thin type steering of fiat and original S1 design one too
4. Various light fittings
5. Sunax plastic grills
6. solex Bicsa carburetor top
7. door sill Guards
8. Wheel caps Steel or aluminum including plastic ones

[samsag12]

Some more useful parts which should be stocked are as follows:

1. Original rims at least 2 set (scrapyard)
2. Roof gutter trims
3. Ash tray(F/R)
4. brake and clutch rubber shoes
5. If possible whole set of window glasses along with the front and rear glass
6. Door handles
7. Ignition switch, coils.(PA12)
8. AC unit if needed. including blower (stated this as one will not be able to find them after 4-5 yrs even in scrapyard)

[chanu]

Sagar you are pumping my blood pressure, I am getting restless to get all these parts which you have mentioned for my PP. I now that we need to act fast or else later I say(1-2 yrs)from now even scrap yards will not be of any help. Thanks sagar for the list you are posting.