Miscellaneous other cars in India

[karlosdeville]

Its a shame if the new owner intends to repaint that good an original finish...a crying shame! If I remember right Vijay Mallya had an ex-Travancore (the state, not the BHPian) 30s Studebaker, in original but somewhat worn blue and black paint. MAS regd.

I recognise these pictures Nigel had posted earlier. Was it the Guess the car thread?

[travancore]

Originally Posted by karlosdeville

Its a shame if the new owner intends to repaint that good an original finish...a crying shame! If I remember right Vijay Mallya had an ex-Travancore (the state, not the BHPian) 30s Studebaker, in original but somewhat worn blue and black paint. MAS regd.

That is a cool piece of info Karlos!!! Could someone post pictures of the Mallya Studebaker ???

The BHPian Travancore had a 1944-45 Studebaker in the family too!

[karlosdeville]

Originally Posted by travancore

That is a cool piece of info Karlos!!! Could someone post pictures of the Mallya Studebaker ???

The BHPian Travancore had a 1944-45 Studebaker in the family too!

My aunt too had a 40s Studebaker. BMZ 3854 if Im correct. Let me dig out some pics.

Im afraid I dont have any pics. I think I had seen it in a magazine featuring the Mallya collection. Possibly BSM. I remember the photo clearly, with those trademark "tall" headlights, and a couple of patches on the bonnet where the paint had peeled off. The regn number was close to his Pierce Arrow (MAS 8280), so that was possibly MAS 8820 or 8208 or thereabouts.

[Shreeram]

Originally Posted by karlosdeville

While on the subject of the Gandhi movie, did you see this Renault featured? The owner tells me it was part of the movie. I think it was a BYF regn. Excuse the picture quality, its all I could manage

Here are a couple of good old pic's of the Renault. Taken on one of the "Trips" by my father.

[awini]

Originally Posted by Alvis

Some pictures of the Studebaker and the Hupmobile. Both cars seem very original in the pictures and have been in single family ownership having long outlived their original owners!!

is that mohsin akram in the hupmobile?

[karlosdeville]

Originally Posted by awini

is that mohsin akram in the hupmobile?

Id say it is, certainly looks like him doesnt it?

[Julian UK]

Originally Posted by awini

the red car is a 1918 ish (claimed 1915) Chevrolet that belonged to Mr Narendra Nath of Premnath Motors, and the location is the Roshan ara Club, of which my Great Grandfather was a founder member, they wanted our studebaker too for the movie because it has actually been used by Gandhiji, but my brother insisted on driving it himself, so....

I remember Roshnara Road and the radiator repairers.
So Premnath motors owned these two cars:
The 1918ish Chevrolet
and also the 1902ish Flat twin Oldsmobile

What else did they have?

[awini]

Originally Posted by Julian UK

I remember Roshnara Road and the radiator repairers.
So Premnath motors owned these two cars:
The 1918ish Chevrolet
and also the 1902ish Flat twin Oldsmobile
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What else did they have?

its unfortunate what happened to Roshan Ara Road, it was originally a wide road with colonial bunglows on both sides, developed in the 1860s, i guess its the vast space available there is what attracted the truckers to it...
yes the olds too belonged to Prem Nath Motors, it too is a later car and not 1902 or 1 as claimed, i would think its closer to 1906. they had just these two cars, which i believe were sold recently, i was told they are now in the same collection as the 1906 rover, but you would know better.

[Julian UK]

I think its one of these, the ad is 1905, the fore and aft flat twin engine was underneath with a side hand crank (it was a huge flat twin so maybe the 20hp model), but with a steering wheel (but the steering wheel angle looks different maybe some jiggery pokkery has been going on).


I'm a bit out of touch with that collection but if they were bought recently it wouldn't surprise me.

[Alvis]

Yes, that's Mohsin Ikram, but isnt the green one the Studebaker?

[awini]

Originally Posted by Julian UK

I think its one of these, the ad is 1905, the fore and aft flat twin engine was underneath with a side hand crank (it was a huge flat twin so maybe the 20hp model), but with a steering wheel (but the steering wheel angle looks different maybe some jiggery pokkery has been going on).
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I'm a bit out of touch with that collection but if they were bought recently it wouldn't surprise me.

looks the same, iremember that the delhi car had massive leaf springs which doubled as the sides of the chassis, and the steering column is adjustible, so that could explain the steering angle, and it's chain drive,& the fluid tanks are under the bonnet. i never saw the people at PNM start it by cranking it by hand, nobody had the courage to do so,, they would always push start it.

[Julian UK]

And once started it sounded very wild and clattery, I think it needed alot of work. It was quite a beast! It never ran the rally when I saw it but still got the oldest car trophy. Once we started running the Rover in the rally in 1988 I never saw the Olds again. I think I took that photo in 1987. If only I had been more into photography all those years. I'm like a snap 6 and 1 will come out person. Had an Olympus which used to eat dust, I'd snap away and then find the whole reel blank.

[awini]

Originally Posted by Julian UK

And once started it sounded very wild and clattery, I think it needed alot of work. It was quite a beast! It never ran the rally when I saw it but still got the oldest car trophy. Once we started running the Rover in the rally in 1988 I never saw the Olds again. I think I took that photo in 1987. If only I had been more into photography all those years. I'm like a snap 6 and 1 will come out person. Had an Olympus which used to eat dust, I'd snap away and then find the whole reel blank.

and dont forget the smoke!! actually the reason it stopped coming was Mr Narendra Nath's death around that time, he was the one who took interest in these cars. i last saw the olds in 1992,parked in a corner, when our studebaker was being worked on at their workshop.

[Julian UK]

Originally Posted by awini

and dont forget the smoke!! actually the reason it stopped coming was Mr Narendra Nath's death around that time, he was the one who took interest in these cars. i last saw the olds in 1992,parked in a corner, when our studebaker was being worked on at their workshop.

A little ad from Prem Nath Motors:

[Julian UK]

I realise this is not a car but it is of vehicular interest. It is a Singer Challenge No.1 tricycle. 1880ish and was in Panna M.P. now safe in Delhi. Its track rod and links are missing. The owner is an old friend and has given permission to share the photographs.






Here is one in a Dublin museum with a different seat. The missing parts are visible.