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Old 24th December 2014, 18:27   #31
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Period pictures and a detailed history of this handsome PIII was kindly shared by Steve Stuckey here

https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/pre-w...tml#post895477

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For benefit I am reposting the details from Steve here
The Bentely 3-1/2 liter coupe chassis number B32EF is well described on the COACHBUILD.com web site: http://www.coachbuild.com/index.php?...2_itemId=43249

Please excuse my posting if this website has been seen earlier. In my humble opinion, it is one of the prettier shapes penned by Barker.
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This photograph provides context to the image posted by Shyml of BWP 28 in the porch of Sadiq Garh Palace, Bahawalpur. It was taken in 1935 on the occasion of the visit of the Viceroy, Lord Willingdon, seen inspecting a guard of honour with Nawab Sahib. BWP 28 can be seen in the distance.
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On serial number 19 is RR PIII 3-AX-87 BWP 205. Here is a picture taken in UK perhaps in the late 40's or early 50's. His Highness is pictured next to the car.
Thanks Sahibzada Sulaiman Sahib. Superb picture, picnic in UK while living at the Surrey Estate of Bahawalpur, with HH using early 16 mm cine camera. Note absence of the large Grebel lamp from its fixture on right hand side. The fixture was also later removed. The car has a draw down curtain on front wind screen and a full one piece chrome dash. It was bullet proof but became under powered and unwieldy and armour plating was removed later on.

In my opinion one of the best looking P-III's ever. The P-III chassis was not of classical proportions and most coach builders struggled with the transition period from the SG/PI/PII chassis. This is a massive car by any definition. It met an accident in Pakistan and was sent back for repairs.
As Sahibzada Sulaiman told me, quoting his father, the Nawab Sahib was very fond of changing colours of the cars and this P-III was a favourite for this purpose. The original silver was changed to full black etc . It now has a Black and Beige livery. Barker outdid themselves on this one, especially not the door opening handles almost concealed on the swage line of the body work as well as the curious placement of the rear door locks way above the handles as the armour plating interferes with a more conventional placement.

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Here is a picture of the car appearing on the list at position 17 is Armstrong Siddeley Limousine (BWP 134). Picture is courtesy of VCCCP.
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This photograph provides context to the image posted by Shyml of BWP 28 in the porch of Sadiq Garh Palace, Bahawalpur. It was taken in 1935 on the occasion of the visit of the Viceroy, Lord Willingdon, seen inspecting a guard of honour with Nawab Sahib. BWP 28 can be seen in the distance.
I spotted this picture on the princely India Facebook page and I think it is from the Viceroys visit as well.
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Kartikelal, I posted the picture below, on Team BHP 26.6.14, taken during the visit of King Faisal II of Iraq to Bahawalpur State. The King is on the left of Nawab Sahib of Bahawalpur who is wearing a black fez. His stature was similar to his Hashemite cousin King Hussein of Jordan. The two pictures under discussion were taken almost twenty years apart. The Viceroy arrived in the July 1935 and because of the heat had to be received under a shamiana.

For purposes of identification the second photo, taken soon after the guard of honour, from left to right shows: Prince 'Abd al-Ilah of Iraq, King Faisal and the Nawab of Bahawalpur.

P.S. Your Morris looks fantastic.
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This is a photograph of BWP 193, a 1934 (?) LaSalle, on duty with the Governor of the Punjab at Khanpur, Bahawalpur in 1936. I believe there was a second LaSalle, but I have not seen any records to confirm this. My best wishes for the New Year.
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This is a photograph of BWP 193, a 1934 (?) LaSalle, on duty with the Governor of the Punjab at Khanpur, Bahawalpur in 1936. I believe there was a second LaSalle, but I have not seen any records to confirm this. My best wishes for the New Year.
Going by thr bullet / biplane bumpers, it is certainly a 1934 model. Possibly a Series 350, 5-Pasenger Sedan. I believe they were all bodied by Fleetwood on a 119 inch chaasis.

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This is a photograph of BWP 193, a 1934 (?) LaSalle
Falahuddin Sahib, Would you opine this to be a car from the Motorkhana Nij or official car of the state?

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It might be the same car posted by F Abbasi although the front grill is a little different
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Many years back I had come across an ad on eBay for this 540K, advertised as being an ex Bahwalpur car. It was described as being totally original and unrestored, down to paint and tyres - which if true is astounding. I vaguely remember the description saying something about the seat backs (or bottoms) being redone, the rest original. I think the car was in Germany at the time. Is it accounted for today?

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The car was offered for sale in the States at that time (2005) for around $600 K.
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The Mercedes 540 K, BWP 204, in Bahawalpur. This car was given as a wedding present to H. H. the Mir of Khairpur when he married the Nawab of Bahawalpur's daughter in 1957. It was sold by him after Nawab Sahib passed away.
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It might be the same car posted by F Abbasi although the front grill is a little different
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In my opinion it is indeed the very same car. Picture looks to be taken in Islamabad and perhaps in the Convention Center. Judging from the picture the has been lovingly restored. It is very heartening to see Nawab Sahib's cars in good hands. Interesting to note that there is no registration plate on it. However the bracket for the plate originally carrying BWP 139 is still there.

Below is a picture f one of the Ford Woody wagons on duty in the rugged desert setting. Hard to tell exactly which one of the two this one is since the front is not visible. Nawab Sahib is pictured second from right.
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During WW II the British Government asked Nawab Sahib of Bahawalpur to undertake a mission to the Middle East to use his influence with the prominent figures of the region after the successful German thrust into North Africa and Greece had caused support for the Allies to waver. He visited Iraq, Jordan. Palestine and Egypt.
The photograph of Nawab Sahib and his staff was taken in the Jordan desert.
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