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Old 17th January 2015, 21:18   #46
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Here is a period picture of 70TM, sporting its original polished aluminium wheel discs.

courtesy The Illustrated London News, 1926

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The Conference of Princes 1926

70TM takes pride of place, right next to the Viceroy's car.

courtesy: The Illustrated London News

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70TM takes pride of place, right next to the Viceroy's car.



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The Nawab of Bahawalpur owned a 1927 Thrupp & Maberly Mercedes Benz 680S, engine no.35987, chassis no.43471, that Herbert Lozier, in his book The Car of Kings, states was ordered by H.H. the Nawab of Bhopal.


I have no images of this car with its new body other than what has appeared in George Oliver's book, and I do not know if it was shipped back to India or kept in the U.K.
There is the remote possibility that the chassis of 35987 is alive and well in Germany. There are many pics on the web.

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There is the remote possibility that the chassis of 35987 is alive and well in Germany. There are many pics on the web.
Thanks Travancore. This again raises the possibility that :

a: the Barker bodied chassis was different than the Bhopal/BWP chassis, meaning the Nawab Sahib had two of these SSK Mercedes, and this is new body on Bhopal car whereas the Barker bodied SSK was indeed destroyed in Karachi as per my information.

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b: (rather remote chance, given the provenance of the Barker body), that this is the 3rd body on chassis 35987.

Hmmm the plot thickens. Whoever conclusively solves this mystery will be eligible for a prize.

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Listed at position number 16 is a Lancia Lambda four seater phaeton. On a rare trip with my father to Sadiq Garh Palace sometime in the mid Sixties I was treated to a tour of the Motor Khana where I remember seeing the Lancia. I remember it being a Turquoise shade of Blue. Of note is the ingenious door mechanism which can be seen as a singular affair operable from either end! Pictures are courtesy Amer Ahmed (Shyml)
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I know of another Lancia with the same door operation, it was bodied by Petera (Czech Republic). Any idea what the name of the coachbuilder was?
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Listed at serial number 30 is the Lincoln Zephyr V-12 Sedan. I believe this to be 1940 model, picture is supplied below. I am not sure about the registration number BWP 309 belonging to this car since it is also listed as belonging to the Ford woodie wagon. Or perhaps BWP 309 actually belongs to this car?!?
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Here are some pics of the V16, with some details not ordinarily seen, e.g the distributor cap, engine driven vacuum pump for the twin fuel systems ( the vacuum from left and right engine intake is used for brake booster and the vacuum operated wipers, but not for fuel system). The oil level gauge is quaint. I do not know if these pics belong here or not.
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Amazing collection of cars. Would be nice to see old pictures when the cars were in use by the family
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I am very sad to inform about the death, after a great fight against his prolonged illness, of Sahibzada Falah ud Din Abbasi, a great contributor to this forum and this thread. He was buried in Lahore, Pakistan and is survived by his wife.
He was an exceptionally knowledgeable man who was an encyclopedia on the Palaces and Motor Khanas of his Grandfather, the Nawab HH Sadiq Muhammad Abbasi V and his father Nawab Abbas Khan Abbasi.
We have lost much with his departure to his heavenly abode.I have personal thanks to offer to him on account of the rare photos he dug up of my cars.
May Allah grant him peace and count him among his blessed and give his bereaved family solace and courage to bear the loss.
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I am very sad to inform about the death, after a great fight against his prolonged illness, of Sahibzada Falah ud Din Abbasi, a great contributor to this forum and this thread. He was buried in Lahore, Pakistan and is survived by his wife.
He was an exceptionally knowledgeable man who was an encyclopedia on the Palaces and Motor Khanas of his Grandfather, the Nawab HH Sadiq Muhammad Abbasi V and his father Nawab Abbas Khan Abbasi.
We have lost much with his departure to his heavenly abode.I have personal thanks to offer to him on account of the rare photos he dug up of my cars.
May Allah grant him peace and count him among his blessed and give his bereaved family solace and courage to bear the loss.
Amer Ahmad
May he rest in peace. A very great loss indeed!
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Sahibzada Falah ud din dug up this very nice colour photo of the V-16 702298 with its driver lieutenant Abdur Rehman in full livery.Reportedly this gentleman reached the rank after more than 30 years of service as HH's personal driver.
Picture is in Sadiq Garh Palace circa 1973, seven years after death of HH Nawab Sadiq Abbasi V, the original owner. The car is in current coulours of two shades of green with black fenders and roof. ( Photo courtesy Travencore.)
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I am very sad to inform about the death, after a great fight against his prolonged illness, of Sahibzada Falah ud Din Abbasi, a great contributor to this forum and this thread. He was buried in Lahore, Pakistan and is survived by his wife.
He was an exceptionally knowledgeable man who was an encyclopedia on the Palaces and Motor Khanas of his Grandfather, the Nawab HH Sadiq Muhammad Abbasi V and his father Nawab Abbas Khan Abbasi.
We have lost much with his departure to his heavenly abode.I have personal thanks to offer to him on account of the rare photos he dug up of my cars.
May Allah grant him peace and count him among his blessed and give his bereaved family solace and courage to bear the loss.
Amer Ahmad
Indeed it is a great loss to the family and, may I go so far in saying, the vintage car community.
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Developing the list of HH The Nawab of Bahawalpur cars further I have the pleasure of adding car number 70. A 1952 AC Petite Mk 1. This car, I am told was on Kitchen duty o the Sadiq Garh Palace. It had the mundane but important task of transporting the staff to the local bazars for buying fresh produce. However this is hear say and hence not a confirmed fact.

1. RR Silver Ghost 86CW Barker Tourer
2. RR Silver Ghost 41LK Tourer, later armoured car by Barker
3. RR Silver Ghost 82RM Torpedo Barker, later Pullman Limousine Barker
4. RR Silver Ghost 70TM Cabriolet de Ville Barker BWP31
5. Renault MC #189583 (1926) Limousine Windovers
6. RR Twenty barrel sided tourer Barker 81K2
7. RR P1 39MC Hooper Roadster, later touring sedan Barker
8. RR P1 92YC Boudoir Darbari Open drive limousine BWP 73
9. RR P1 45WR Disappearing top tourer Thrupp & Maberly (Cairo Show), later Pullman Limousine Barker BWP 97
10. Mercedes SSK Barker
11. Mercedes SSK boat tail
12. Packard 640 roadster 1928
13. Packard 740 roadster 1929
14. Packard 740 Limousine 1929 BWP 120
15. Cadillac V-16 # 702298 Vanden Plas (London Motor Show) 1930 BWP133
16. Lancia Lambda four seat phaeton
17. Armstrong Siddley Limousine BWP 134
18. RR PII 180PY four seat sunshine coupe Barker BWP 182
19. RR PIII 3-AX-87 touring Sedan (bullet proof) Barker BWP 205
20. Mercedes 540K convertible # 154068 Barker
21. RR Silver Wraith CLW35 empress Hooper
22. RR Silver Wraith GLW20 Hooper touring
23. RR PV 5BV61 Parkward limousine
24. Bentley 3.5 litre B32EF
25. Bentley Mk VI B94KM
26. Bentley Mk VI B16BA Hooper
27. Humber Pullman limousine 1951 BR 4147
28. Jaguar Mk IV 1.5 litre BR 4239
29. Jaguar Mk 10 BWP 300
30. Lincoln Zephyr V-12 Sedan BWP 307
31. Chrysler Limousine BWP 271
32. Chrysler Limousine BWP 263
33. Lincoln Cosmopolitan BWP 341
34. Daimler DK 400 Hooper perspex coupe
35. Cadillac 1939 series 75 limousine RHD BWP 260
36. Cadillac 1942 BWP 267
37. Austin Ruby convertible
38. Bristol 1950
39. Jaguar MkV BWP 334
40. Ford Woodie wagon 1941 BWP 309
41. Ford Woodie Wagon 1941
43. Crossley Caravan BWP 105
44. Ford Caravan 1939 BWP 249
45. Lincoln Model K, convertible, 1934
46. Cadillac series 62 sedan 1953
47. Buick roadmaster convertible
48. Buick super 8 convertible 1947 or 1948
49. Cadillac series 75 1962
50. Studebaker convertible 1950 RHD
51. Jaguar XK140
52. Chevrolet sedan 1937 BWP 208

53. Armstrong siddeley sapphire 1951 BWP 402
54. Buick 1938 BWP 365
55. Ford phaeton 1936
56. Humber Pullman 1949 BWP 425
57. Wolseley 14hp BWP 775
58. Ford 1941
59. Rover
60. Triumph Gt 6 (was not in his personal use)
61. Thames trader truck BWP 423 (it was still parked in their personal garage)

62. Opel station wagon BWP 414
63. Ford Consul BWP 425
64. VW minibus BWP 415
65. Willies Wagon BWP 375
66. Ford Consul BWP 426
67. Ford Mercury BWP 430
66. Vanguard BWP 382
67. Ford Mercury BWP 390
68. M. G. BWP 383
69. Ford Prefect 1959 (four of) We had one of them registered BWP 402. I learnt to drive in it.
70. AC Petite MK 1 BWP 396
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