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Old 11th March 2017, 21:57   #16
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Gold does not corrode. It is an element/ material for the ages. So what happened to the original gold plating?

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Like Auric Goldfinger's Rolls Royce Silver Ghost in the James Bond Movie Goldfinger!
Fantastic beast indeed!
Nothing in todays world can compare!
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Gold does not corrode. It is an element/ material for the ages. So what happened to the original gold plating?

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Dear sir

By the time the car came into the restorers hand to commence restoration it must have been subjected to human and natural elements that have taken the plating away . It was a sorry state when it was last seen by me and see closely at the image 2 put up of the car inside a garage by KPS taken by me at Indore a decade ago " the doors were stolen / missing " so now you can guess the rest.

It's standing and working . True representation of its past glory in full form . Kudos to everyone behind it

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The luxury in this car is just obscene!
And way it has been preserved to this date is equally amazing.

I wonder, how much was the cost of this beauty, when new.
The phantoms, Maybachs of today are nothing when compared to this testament of sheer luxury.
Just had an amazing virtual tour of the luxury on wheels with my 7-year old son! We both were left drooling
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Lovely car, wonderful to hear that Christopher Rodricks is able to handle the mechanical part of difficult restorations , this was missing earlier.

But for such an iconic car, more care should have been taken to ensure that the body work was par excellence - why the gaps in the bonnet alignment & door alignment, the dash should have been completed to remove the instrument refitting opening and the wood work in the cabin required to be planed more before polishing- apologies in advance if I am seeing faults where none exist,

.... it is wonderful to have the car open to public viewing.
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Dear KPS, thank you for the array of beautiful photos of the details and the effort you've made to bring this car to us. The photos and your narration were a joy to behold.

Kasli, Chris, Karlos, KPS - congratulations on the restoration work. Could not have done it better.

I will never grumble about my wife's gold jewelry again
I will never grumble about my wife's gold jewelry again
I will never grumble about my wife's gold jewelry again
I will never grumble about my wife's gold jewelry again
I will never grumble about my wife's gold jewelry again
I will never................

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I will never grumble about my wife's gold jewelry again
I will never grumble about my wife's gold jewelry again
I will never grumble about my wife's gold jewelry again
I will never grumble about my wife's gold jewelry again
I will never grumble about my wife's gold jewelry again
I will never................
Hope you've finished writing the imposition -I haven't made the mistake of showing this thread to my better half yet

From what I've understood, the whole resto process was hard pressed for time and hence the small niggles (as pointed out by more discerning collectors here) that can be seen on the car

I am sure it will be corrected to good order

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Thanks KPS for taking the effort to put together this superb thread. The car is indeed one of the most special ones around, and was almost forgotten in most people's minds for so long........
Thanks Karl. We were fortunate to have spent so much time with the car. Undoubtedly the Star of the show. Personally, the Minerva was a close second, if not better


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KPS !!
A big thanks for bringing out this thread - and the way it has been introduced. Was so compelling that I had to read up the History of Sir Hukumchand and the Swadeshi movement and the lot.

Best Regards & Drive Safe
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History is always important. I am sure you appreciated the car more, having read the history of the owner.


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What a great thread. .........
for KPS to provide this write up without making notes is truly remarkable as the level of accuracy is spot on.
Thanks Vanam. Detailing was possible because of the number of pictures I could review, whilst writing up this tread. Chris was always there for referencing.


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Lovely car, .....
But for such an iconic car, more care should have been taken to ensure that the body work was par excellence ............... apologies in advance if I am seeing faults where none exist,
.... it is wonderful to have the car open to public viewing.
Whilst what you say cannot be discounted, the paucity of time and the fact that very little reference material was available could have caused this. Kasli confirms that the car was in very bad shape. Frankly for all us it did not matter, as the focus remained on the features of the car.


In the mean time Chris has shared more pictures on the engine, which we have update in Post 5 (The Gold 1919 Daimler of Sir Seth Hukumchand), the section dedicated to him.


For the benefit of the Bhpians who have earlier gone through this tread, the pictures updated in Post 5 includes

Engine Pre-restoration Stage
The Gold 1919 Daimler of Sir Seth Hukumchand-engine-pre-restoration.jpg

Engine during tear down stage
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A Frame and leverage used to remove the seized bore and sleeves
The Gold 1919 Daimler of Sir Seth Hukumchand-frame-leverage-used-remove-bores-ceased-pistons-sleeves.jpg

The pistons, sleeves and bore removed for machining
The Gold 1919 Daimler of Sir Seth Hukumchand-pistons-sleeves-bores-removed-machining.jpg


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Whilst what you say cannot be discounted, the paucity of time and the fact that very little reference material was available could have caused this. Kasli confirms that the car was in very bad shape. Frankly for all us it did not matter, as the focus remained on the features of the car.

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KPS,
please try to get some as found pictures of the car, before it was even touched for restoration.

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I happened to see the Daimler while it was under restoration.
Did not know it was THIS one!! absolutely beautiful and a great part of automobile history has been saved.
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And way it has been preserved to this date is equally amazing.
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Hi, don't be shocked . The car has been restored and not preserved.
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Gold does not corrode. It is an element/ material for the ages. So what happened to the original gold plating?

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It was a sorry state when it was last seen by me and see closely at the image 2 put up of the car inside a garage by KPS taken by me at Indore a decade ago " the doors were stolen / missing " so now you can guess the rest.
Here are some before restoration pictures of this great car, as you can see it was in a very poor condition , and as Kasli pointed out, lots of parts including some doors were missing.

The Gold 1919 Daimler of Sir Seth Hukumchand-img_8528-.jpg

The Gold 1919 Daimler of Sir Seth Hukumchand-img_8518-.jpg

The Gold 1919 Daimler of Sir Seth Hukumchand-copy-img_8729-.jpg

The Gold 1919 Daimler of Sir Seth Hukumchand-img_8510-.jpg

Here are some comparative pictures

The Gold 1919 Daimler of Sir Seth Hukumchand-img_8528-new.jpg

The Gold 1919 Daimler of Sir Seth Hukumchand-img_8518-new.jpg

The Gold 1919 Daimler of Sir Seth Hukumchand-copy-img_8729-new.jpg

The Gold 1919 Daimler of Sir Seth Hukumchand-img_8510-new.jpg

These pictures show the tremendous work done to bring back this beast back to life, kudos to everyone involved.

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Here are some before restoration pictures of this great car, as you can see it was in a very poor condition , and as Kasli pointed out, lots of parts including some doors were missing.

These pictures show the tremendous work done to bring back this beast back to life, kudos to everyone involved.

Cheers
Kartik
Wow Kartik, Superb work in sourcing these pictures

We can appreciate the restoration work, now that we have comparative pictures. Great work from Mr. Manvendra Singh and his team to bring it to its current condition.

This thread in now complete thanks to Kartik

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As a follow up on this thread, I wrote an article for The Driving Member the official journal of The Daimler & Lanchester Owner's Club (DLOC). The article has been well received.

The car features on the cover page for the April 2017 issue
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There are two pages dedicated to the car in the magazine.
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The Gold 1919 Daimler of Sir Seth Hukumchand-image2.jpg

I am sure, should anyone google for more information in this great car, TBHP will satiate their appetite through this detailed thread.

Again thank you - Karl, Kasli and Kartik for all the contribution and support in covering this car.

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As a follow up on this thread, I wrote an article for The Driving Member the official journal of The Daimler & Lanchester Owner's Club (DLOC). The article has been well received.
Dear KPS,

Congratulations. Am sure it is a great honour to be featured as the cover story/ on the front page of a global magazine such as this. This is again a testament to the amount of effort taken by you in compiling this thread about such a rare car. Thanks for letting us know the history and the restoration work behind this car. Great going.

Best wishes

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Though not related to the Daimler, here is an old picture of " Sheesh Mahal " once the residence of Sir Seth Hukum chand at Indore

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