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Old 14th August 2011, 05:52   #616
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The peacocks stand behind the conventional pilot lamps, I doubt that they light up themselves. They are also rumoured to be gold.

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Karl, the reason I suggested "lamps" is as follows:

A Kolhapur Minerva with a similar peacock lamp was exhibited at the Brussels Salon in 1930.

To quote The Motor, Dec 9, 1930:
"Side lamps consisting of solid silver peacocks, on a Minerva for the Rajah of Kohlapur. The glass tails at the spread, are flood lighted from concealed bulbs".

The Maybach peacocks too seem to have perspex / glass tails.

Fact or fable, I do not know!
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A concours winner with a body built in India - to the owners requirement -

The 1911 Mysore Silver Ghost
Had to quote an old post. This is the car Vintageman gave a picture of, 3 years ago:

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Is it the same car going under the hammer, in this year's Goodwood Revival?

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Link here:

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Default Marshal Tito Visit to Gwalior

The following picture was taken during Tito's visit to Gwalior for a tiger hunt in 1955. Maharaja "George" and the Maharani can be seen as well. This is just one of a fleet of '47/'48 Cadillacs at Gwalior at that time.

Does BMU-4850 still exist ?

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Default Hunting Coaches

Hunting BIG game in big style sometimes requires big chariots.

Attached are two interesting hunting coaches, both from 1931:

Jodhpur Mercedes-Benz Hunting Coach:

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Patiala A.E.C. 95 H.P. Hunting Coach (1 of 2 acquired - the second was a dining car, oops "coach")

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Description of Gwalior Hunting Coach - 1927 Thornycroft

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Gwalior also bought a fifth wheel caravan "land yacht" - driven overland to India by an American couple in the early 1940's. Have to "hunt" for pictures that appeared in LIFE and National Geographic.

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There is a similar Maroon car in a collection in Mumbai. Not in the best shape. Will have to actually dig the snap out to verify the number. Would be great if it does

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The following picture was taken during Tito's visit to Gwalior for a tiger hunt in 1955. Maharaja "George" and the Maharani can be seen as well. This is just one of a fleet of '47/'48 Cadillacs at Gwalior at that time.

Does BMU-4850 still exist ?

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Super Hope one of these exist in some form would be great and if yet kept. Surely these were not exported

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Hunting BIG game in big style sometimes requires big chariots.

Attached are two interesting hunting coaches, both from 1931:

Jodhpur Mercedes-Benz Hunting Coach:

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Patiala A.E.C. 95 H.P. Hunting Coach (1 of 2 acquired - the second was a dining car, oops "coach")

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Description of Gwalior Hunting Coach - 1927 Thornycroft

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Gwalior also bought a fifth wheel caravan "land yacht" - driven overland to India by an American couple in the early 1940's. Have to "hunt" for pictures that appeared in LIFE and National Geographic.

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The following picture was taken during Tito's visit to Gwalior for a tiger hunt in 1955. Maharaja "George" and the Maharani can be seen as well. This is just one of a fleet of '47/'48 Cadillacs at Gwalior at that time.

Does BMU-4850 still exist ?
There was a Cadillac which looked like the same model (Series 75?) in Kolkata till around 10 years back. It was a regular participant in the Statesman Rally here and was silver upto the waistline and black below it. Beautiful car, which was lovingly maintained and cared for by Mr. Rahul Sircar. I think that he probably restored it too.

That was the time when I was in college and had loads of free time and would regularly tag along to Mr. Sircar's workshop, and I would spend hours admiring the cars in the place, which included a 1.5 Litre Jaguar, 2 Mercedes Benz 170S's, a Lancia Lambda and a Mark VII Jaguar. Then the super XK140 was added to the collection and underwent a complete restoration, which still looks absolutely fresh.

Of these cars, I know that the Lancia is now a part of another prominent collection and the Mark VII is in Delhi. The XK140 is of course in Kolkata but I wonder where the other cars are.

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There was a Cadillac which looked like the same model (Series 75?) in Kolkata till around 10 years back. It was a regular participant in the Statesman Rally here and was silver upto the waistline and black below it. Beautiful car, which was lovingly maintained and cared for by Mr. Rahul Sircar. I think that he probably restored it too.

That was the time when I was in college and had loads of free time and would regularly tag along to Mr. Sircar's workshop, and I would spend hours admiring the cars in the place, which included a 1.5 Litre Jaguar, 2 Mercedes Benz 170S's, a Lancia Lambda and a Mark VII Jaguar. Then the super XK140 was added to the collection and underwent a complete restoration, which still looks absolutely fresh.

Of these cars, I know that the Lancia is now a part of another prominent collection and the Mark VII is in Delhi. The XK140 is of course in Kolkata but I wonder where the other cars are.

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Hi,

One was a 170 V and the other was a 170S. Both were sold to Delhi. One of them was made into a two door version before it left Calcutta and was in a reputed restorer's workshop for quite a while. The car is still in Delhi if i remember. The other Mercedes went to a person who is a prominent motorcycle Restorer & collector and after that it was for sale again. The Jaguar 1.5 had a Karnataka number ( KA 9N 438) don't know where that went. You missed adding the Buick Super 8 which came from a very well known stable in Calcutta. The Caddy, both Mercs(170V & 170S), Both Jags(1.5 & mark VII), The Buick was Restored by Mr. Sanjay Ghosh.

The Jaguar Mark VII & the non modded Mercedes which went to the motor cycle collector were stripped and redone. The other cars were just looked after and then they changed hands. The Lancia and Jaguar XK 140 were completely built from scratch.
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Karl, the reason I suggested "lamps" is as follows:

A Kolhapur Minerva with a similar peacock lamp was exhibited at the Brussels Salon in 1930.

To quote The Motor, Dec 9, 1930:
"Side lamps consisting of solid silver peacocks, on a Minerva for the Rajah of Kohlapur. The glass tails at the spread, are flood lighted from concealed bulbs".

The Maybach peacocks too seem to have perspex / glass tails.

Fact or fable, I do not know!
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The peacocks stand behind the conventional pilot lamps, I doubt that they light up themselves. They are also rumoured to be gold.
Karl,

The very fact that there is some sort of brass pipe/ducting (praobably a wiring conduit) behind the peacock's legs - supports the possibility of a light inside.

I have seen some crystal curio peacocks (non-Automobile) with a similar lighting arrangement - a single bulb at the base of the vertical tail spread - which is essentially a galss slab. The light just spreads through the glass. In that sense they would be lamps.

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Default ex-Patiala (now Mallya/California) Aston Martin T-Type 1928

Anyone know anything more of this car ? Shown at this year's Pebble Beach. Reportedly 3rd oldest still running

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Anyone know anything more of this car ? Shown at this year's Pebble Beach. Reportedly 3rd oldest still running
There was also an Aston Martin with him in India, and it was yellow in colour too.
It is supposed to be under restoration since many many years. It was very similar to this.

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The same car and it had gone abroad to be restored early 2000. It was temporarily painted red. Old snaps are in addition of Auto India 1986/87 edition with the corsa on the front cover.

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There was also an Aston Martin with him in India, and it was yellow in colour too.
It is supposed to be under restoration since many many years. It was very similar to this.

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Some SUPER moments of cars being pulled out of a palace caught on camera here. Dated 1975.

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Who can tell us more about these photos? These are just a few, more at the link

taken in 1975 in India - a set on Flickr

Pictures posted by Allan Parington. Could they be Mayurbhanj? Mentioned as somewhere near Calcutta, plus we can see trademark white paint stripes on the fenders, commonly seen in that region during the war.
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Some SUPER moments of cars being pulled out of a palace caught on camera here. Dated 1975.

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Who can tell us more about these photos? These are just a few, more at the link

taken in 1975 in India - a set on Flickr

Pictures posted by Allan Parington. Could they be Mayurbhanj? Mentioned as somewhere near Calcutta, plus we can see trademark white paint stripes on the fenders, commonly seen in that region during the war.
Surprise surprise the last picture of the Ghost with an English Gentleman on the running board and no tires looks like the Vijay Mallya Car light blue / Dark blue Combo

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Some SUPER moments of cars being pulled out of a palace caught on camera here. Dated 1975.
Who can tell us more about these photos? These are just a few, more at the link taken in 1975 in India - a set on Flickr Pictures posted by Allan Parington. Could they be Mayurbhanj? Mentioned as somewhere near Calcutta, plus we can see trademark white paint stripes on the fenders, commonly seen in that region during the war.
Lovely pics. Ofcourse these cars belonged to Mayurbanj. But please do not make assumptions on two aspects.
Mayurbanj has/had a residence in Calcutta, maybe they had a garage there too. The cars need not have been pulled out in Orissa.
Vijay Mallya owns that one Rolls NOW, but from Mayurbanj that Rolls was sold to Gujrat where Mr. Mallya's mother managed to get first refusal from the owner.

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Some SUPER moments of cars being pulled out of a palace caught on camera here. Dated 1975.


Who can tell us more about these photos? These are just a few, more at the link

taken in 1975 in India - a set on Flickr

Pictures posted by Allan Parington. Could they be Mayurbhanj? Mentioned as somewhere near Calcutta, plus we can see trademark white paint stripes on the fenders, commonly seen in that region during the war.
Thanks Karlos for these superb pictures!

The Mallya car is Silver Ghost Chassis 55-EM

The Phantom I is Chassis 63-TC

Have no clue what the other polished aluminum hood Silver Ghost is!
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