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Old 12th July 2017, 14:09   #1261
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The "Balrampur" Phantom II is a new one for me. I believe it is the same as the "Tirwa" car - 1930 Phantom II, chassis 179GY (registration USA-134).

The second photo is an American car (probably Buick ?) - it does not look like a 1930 Daimler.
Travancore , you are bang on about the Rolls,however Mr. Dharmendra Singh insists that the other car is a Daimler, this is what the former Maharaja says about it

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Rolls was gifted to Raja Saheb Tirwa. The Daimler was disposed soon after WW 2 was declared since it was German made and enemy of Great Britain. So much was British control over Indian Princes. Henceforward only British & American cars were allowed to be imported until end of the great War.
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Many thanks to the Former Maharaja Shri Dharmendra Prasad Singh for these great pictures.

Personal motor cars of Maharaja Bahadur Sir Bhagwati Prasad Singh KCIE KBE of Balrampur C. early 1900's
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Picture of the Balrampur Palace

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Two cars can be seen in this blow up of the above picture

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Pictures of cars from the royal family of Kasmanda (Taluq) of Oudh, now UP.

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Some of the cars of the Kasmanda family. Seen parked outside the garages at the beautiful Lucknow Kasmanda House. Sadly the house was brought down to build ugly apartments.
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SS touring Daimler bought early 1930's by Raja Saheb Kasmanda who was very fond of his cars.
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Some stories as narrated by Shri D.P Singh

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Raja Saheb went ahead and bought a 7.7 litre Mercedes Super Straight Eight with multi gear box later that year as soon as it was launched by the company.

An interesting note.
Raja Saheb Dinesh Pratap Singh ji of Kasmanda amazed Maharaja Nabha by being the first person to drive to Nabha Palace Mussoorie also known as Airfield in a car and that too a sports car. Its on a steep road uphill and in those days road were not tarred etc as we know of them now.
Sorry for the picture quality, I have requested for better pictures, some of the cars are still with the family.

Picture credit : D.P. Singh Kasmanda
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Pictures of cars from the royal family of Kasmanda (Taluq) of Oudh, now UP.

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Wow, you have outdone yourself, Kartik!

The cars are a R-R Silver Ghost (which I believe is ex-Patiala, though unconfirmed), a Wolseley (dark car in middle) and a Crossley.

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This page from a Dadajee Dhackjee 1930 Catalogue does list the Yuvaraj of Kasmanda (bottom of 1st row) . Thanks for a picture to go with it!

The Marquis of Cholmondeley car listed went to an "Indian Prince" (Berar ?) in 1939 ; and later to Dubash as I know it. Now back in Europe.

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Wow, you have outdone yourself, Kartik!
Thanks Travancore, it made my day !

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The cars are a R-R Silver Ghost (which I believe is ex-Patiala, though unconfirmed), a Wolseley (dark car in middle) and a Crossley.

This page from a Dadajee Dhackjee 1930 Catalogue does list the Yuvaraj of Kasmanda (bottom of 1st row) . Thanks for a picture to go with it!
I had a word with the grandson of the then Maharaja and this is what he says about the R-R being ex-Patiala.

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The car was bought directly from the company. He went to England and chose it and brought it back with him as he was very fond of his cars.
By any chance do you have the cover page of this catalogue ?
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The Marquis of Cholmondeley car listed went to an "Indian Prince" (Berar ?) in 1939 ; and later to Dubash as I know it. Now back in Europe.
I should have said "Hyderabad" (possibly Moazzam Jah). The Berar (Azum Jah) SS was distinctly different.

The ex-Dubash car was part of the Bill Meredith-Owens / Stratford Motor Museum collection, along with the Nawab Wali-ud-Dowla R-R PI (71DC) and the Alwar Hispano Suiza Boulogne.
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Here is a wonderful video of Maharaja Yadavindra Singh Patiala's first marriage from 1933. Some great cars and a bus previously discussed can be seen.


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Travancore , you are bang on about the Rolls,however Mr. Dharmendra Singh insists that the other car is a Daimler, this is what the former Maharaja says about it
Daimler as in Daimler motor cars ? British isn't it, and I thought post 1926 or so the reference to Daimler AG of Germany was Daimler Benz or Mercedes Benz ? Could you clear up my confusion since the reference being made here is to an apparently German Daimler ?
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Daimler as in Daimler motor cars ? British isn't it, and I thought post 1926 or so the reference to Daimler AG of Germany was Daimler Benz or Mercedes Benz ? Could you clear up my confusion since the reference being made here is to an apparently German Daimler ?
The only thing I could think of was "Austro-Daimler".

After all, the British monarch used Daimlers right until the first "official" R-R in I believe the early fifties.

Edward VIII (as Prince of Wales) and other members of the Royal family did have R-R as personal cars since the twenties.

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Thanks to Kr Jeetendrasinh Gautamsinhrao Gaekwad for this picture of the Triumph saloon.

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Almost 60 year old picture of my late father Prof. Shrimant Gautamsinhrao Bhadrasinhrao Gaekwad, taken in Sayaji Baug Gardens
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The picture below is with Kr Jeetendrasinh at the 21 Gun salute rally.

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You can see the Nawanagar Lanchester here. From the documentary "A Little Poland in India".

It is around the 34 min marker.

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A bit of history on the Patiala Aston Martin T-28

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The car is listed at this Bonhams link, with some more detailed pictures. What a car!

https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/24103/lot/355/

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In the pictures below, The Maharaja of Bhavnagar can be seen overseeing the transfer of the war wounded from the Railway station through the ambulances.
Circa 1918

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Soldiers evening recreation

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Thakur Saheb Rajendra singhji of Namli , what car ?
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