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Old 26th March 2008, 01:28   #46
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The Alwar Hispano by Kellner is like a piece of jewellery. So exquisite. I could sit and gaze at that car for hours and not get bored!!
What horrifies me is that despite original photos being available they have ruined the car now, what with the incorrect size and colour of tyres and the colour of the body, how could anyone sanction such changes, it really hurts.

I hope the Barker Hispano Maharajah special did come to India and is not just a theme refering to exotic styling and is still lurking in "a jungle" somewhere waiting to be carried out by a team of elephants. Its so romantic.
What ever else one could say about the Indian Royalty they certainly were patrons to the arts and crafts of the world and without that patronage the world would be a duller place.

What I really loved in India was getting the denter or the painter or carpenter to do the job again and again until it was right or to use the best materials instead of the cheapest, they had never had that experience and slowly they could produce their best work instead of just doing the absolute minimum to keep the price down on pain of losing their job. I tried to nurture the good ones into a whole different attitude towards their work and it changed their whole focus. There are highly skilled craftsman in India, they just need the circumstances to do their best. But once a skilled team was established, they'd run off and work for others. The mechanical side of things was more difficult and I used to end up doing everything.
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I know its not in India but as it was inspired by the Alwar Lanchester 40hp with a similar body I thought it was interesting enough to deserve inclusion. Its for sale if anyone's interested, plenty of room for your shopping.
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lol, its been for sale for some time now, it was recently hired by a london restaurant to ferry customers... i would think the car would be large enough to be a restaurant by itself... well if not a restaurant, perhaps a noodle van?
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lol, its been for sale for some time now, it was recently hired by a london restaurant to ferry customers... i would think the car would be large enough to be a restaurant by itself... well if not a restaurant, perhaps a noodle van?
I think its a shame that so many pedigreed cars are reduced to 'pick up and drop' services and wedding cars. They deserve better dont they? I wonder how much it would cost to avail of their sevices. At the same time I suppose its nice to see them in active service and used by people rather than being in storage in a collectors warehouse.
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It would make an excellent noodle van

The Lanchester appears to have had a raised roof conversion and a windscreen added. A shame the wheels are gone but they could be replaced.
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At the same time I suppose its nice to see them in active service and used by people rather than being in storage in a collectors warehouse.
Karlos cars actually deteriorate if you stop using them. Oil seal issues, rust setting in on gears and other parts that need to get coated with oil regularly, valves getting stuck, oil passages getting clogged, rings collapsing, suspension issues, fuel gumming messing up fuel pumps, carbs, and pipelines, are just some of the nightmares as a result of which some low mileage cars end up requiring an overhaul!

Its actually cruel to mothball an automobile. They remain in their best form when driven once in while. In a nutshell if you want to ruin a car, stop using it!!!

Julian, I hope the owner is not contemplating using this car regularly? Why on earth would he get a roof made for this car? The contraption clearly belongs to a bygone era and anyone using this car today would look like a baffoon! Chances are people would break out in laughter at the absurdity of this automobile than sit back in awe as a modern day Maharajah goes by in his horseless sedan carriage Lanchester

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What is the present status of the Alwar Lanchester? Is she still in the country? Resto completed?
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No idea, I took the photo in 1992. Wasn't there some dispute? As there often is.
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I believe Vijay Mallya has a Suiza being restored, plus another one apparently still exists in Bombay. Does anybody have more details?
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Thanks, Karlos. I have heard of the Pranlal Bhogilal collection, but No where in the museum is his name mentioned. The couple of employees I could see there didn't seem to have an idea of the owner's name.
that my friend is part of Mr. Bhogilals collection and is his museum. the people working there are not permitted to give the name of the owner to everyone and some are not even told who they work for. the cars fall under a trust and thats the name given.

Julian whats the asking for the car?

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I believe Vijay Mallya has a Suiza being restored, plus another one apparently still exists in Bombay. Does anybody have more details?
Karl there's a photo in The Automobiles of the Maharajas on page 312, and on page 301 is a photo of Rajkot's Hispano-Suiza J12 and on the opposite page is a lovely tale of Twinnie, one of Patiala's chaffeurs. A lot of research has gone into this book and I'm enjoying it immensely. All books have a few mistakes. Overall it is magnificent.

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Julian whats the asking for the car?
As they say POA "price on application"
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As our much missed Awini said, it would make a wonderful noodle van
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As they say POA "price on application"
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the site does not seem to open. i have a friend who is interested in the car. have forwarded the site to him so lets see if he manages something. thank you.
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the site does not seem to open. i have a friend who is interested in the car. have forwarded the site to him so lets see if he manages something. thank you.
Oh dear, I just clicked on the link Coys in your last post and this appeared:

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Try googling Coys you should get it, If you still can't get their site then here are their details:

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United Kingdom Telephone: 020 8614 7888 Collectors Department: 020 8614 7888 Facsimile: 020 8614 7889

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More Hispano stories from Harit.

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There were relatively few Hispanos in India, when compared to Rolls. But some facts/stories have not appeared on the thread.
One of the very nice Hispanos was in Kapurthala, Punjab. I saw a picture with a broker, black, limo and big bumpers. It belonged to some religious order. It was not for sale for a long time, then there were talks of some weird deal being possible and now it seems to have gone. Can anyone update?
The Choudhrie Hispano which I have seen in a Rally in Delhi was called the "The Kelewalla Hispano" (For our foreign readers, Banana Vendors Hisp) as it did belong to such a person. In its vicinity there was a Packard Super 8 sedan, Black, probably 1936 to 1938. Its still alive.
There is a Hispano in south India, in a private collection very difficult to see.
And then none has mentioned Mumbai's Hispano. This car was as I remember an open tourer, lying at Babulnath and now probably in Mumbai suburbs. It is not complete, and has been languishing in a collection which is stashed away.
Pranlal's Hispano came from Alwar. It was seized by customs at the Nepal border and Pranlal got it from there. Then it went to his factory just outside Mumbai. The car actually was fired upon and had bullet holes.

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