Hispano Suiza's in India

[awini]

Originally Posted by travancore

The lovely Alwar Hispano-Suiza H6C Boulogne as it left the coachbuilder. Luckily it survives.

I always thought Grebels were more sought after, i have a near complete set (missing tail lamp) of Lucidus lamps and spotlights which i nearly put on to my Austin 12/4... settled on smaller Marchals instead.

[doublebubble]

Hearing some rumors of a new H6C making its way to India. its a 1924 H6C 'short chassis', one of only a handful (i think 9) that were termed as a short chassis. It is definitely the most well documented car of its kind and even has some incredible racing provenance. The car took part in races, and even has time-sheets showing that it won races at Brooklands (and this has even been confirmed by the Brooklands Archives). attaching a link to a photograph of the car. its in stellar condition, and i think it might become one of the most coveted Hispanos in India. Doing some more digging around, but this information seems to be quite legitimate.

http://duttongarage.com/img/12553/49...&w=2000&h=2000

It is the same car as in the picture. the Capt. J.E.P. Howey car. Just from what you can find on the internet, this car seems extremely well documented and unlike many other well-known Hispanos.

[doublebubble]

Originally Posted by travancore

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The lovely Alwar Hispano-Suiza H6C Boulogne as it left the coachbuilder. Luckily it survives.

I had always doubted the white tyres on the Danbury Mint 1/24 scale model of the car - it now appears to be authentic. They got the colour wrong though! The car was in two shades of blue.

A new one for me - "Lucidus" headlamps. Guess Grebels and Marchals were not bespoke enough for H.H. Alwar.

courtesy Dalton Watson.

Hey travancore, the pictures you put up of the RR PI was much appreciated!
Have you heard anything or have any information regarding this latest Hispano (post #122)? Would be great news if it is actually making its way over to India!

[Boybentley]

Maybe one to bring back to India? Magnificent J12 by Gurney Nutting https://www.artcurial.com/en/lot-193...utting-3279-28

[kasli]

Deserving to be brought back .

Attached image of the car for all. A great history too.

Cheers

Originally Posted by Boybentley

Maybe one to bring back to India? Magnificent J12 by Gurney Nutting https://www.artcurial.com/en/lot-193...utting-3279-28

[Boybentley]

Interesting to see that the couple of b&w pictures in the auction catalogue are not of this Hispano, but of it's sister Phantom III 😁

[doublebubble]

98% confirmed!!! The ex-Capt. J.E.P. Howey H6C is coming to India in 2018!!!

[travancore]

Originally Posted by Boybentley

Interesting to see that the couple of b&w pictures in the auction catalogue are not of this Hispano, but of it's sister Phantom III ��

You are right Boybentley - photos 27 & 28 show the PIII / HSC-3 .

Fuel filler caps are located differently on the two cars. There are also differences to the Boot door cutlines, bonnet vents vs louvres etc

Photo 26 (in derelict condition) however, is the Hispano.

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Hispano Suiza - filler cap on top of rear wing. One piece bootlid door

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PIII - filler cap higher on bodyside. Split bootlid door

[travancore]

Originally Posted by travancore

You are right Boybentley - photos 27 & 28 show the PIII / HSC-3 .

Fuel filler caps are located differently on the two cars. There are also differences to the Boot door cutlines, bonnet vents vs louvres etc

Photo 26 (in derelict condition) however, is the Hispano.

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Hispano Suiza - filler cap on top of rear wing. One piece bootlid door

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PIII - filler cap higher on bodyside. Split bootlid door

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In spite of wheel discs being in vogue, most Holkar cars of the mid to late 1930's did not sport them. He chose to show off the beautiful chromed or painted wire spokes.

That is the only concern I have with the otherwise beautiful resurrection of the Hispano.

[doublebubble]

Hey guys! Anyone here know where I could get information on Hispano-Suizas? They dont seem to be having an archive o a historical department where one can write to. The best I've got so far is writing to Brooklands Museum as they have some information on a limited number of vehicles.
Thanks in advance, and any help would be much appreciated!

[harit]

Hi! at the Rétromobile 2018 ARTCURIAL Auction of Motorcars, the result was massive with sales of 32 M€ / 39 M$ in total and 86% of the lots sold.

In this auction there was a certain Lot 28, the 1937 Hispano-Suiza J12 Gurney Nutting, which sold for 643,680 € / 788 338 $. This is the Holkar car which is expected to be seen at this year's Pebble Beach event.

With such pricing there little chance of it coming back to India.

Cheers harit

[travancore]

A writeup from The Autocar, 1937

[doublebubble]

After extensive research and confirmation from a few historic authorities such as Brooklands Museum Archives and The Society of Automotive Historians of Britain, I can tell you guys that H6C that i mentioned in the above posts (#127) is one of the original H6C Boulognes that were made for racing. Only 9 H6Cs were made in a short-chassis trim with the intention of being raced, and were termed as Boulognes (due to Hispano's famous win at the Boillot Cup in Boulogne). Many people have converted their longer chassis to the 'type-sport' short chassis, and many even fitted the 8lt engine in their H6B as was done by Dubonnet in his famous tulip-wood bodied H6.
But this car is one of the 9 that left the factory in France as a short-chassis and intended to race.
This car has some really good pedigree. Honestly, if this car is actually making its way to India, that would really be something.

[travancore]

courtesy: "The Kellner Affair"

The Jaisalmer (originally Alwar) Hispano-Suiza H6B, Chassis 10677

[travancore]

Faded glory - the derelict Holkar Hispano Suiza J12 in India.

Sold in February 2018 for 644,000 Euros.