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Old 19th February 2012, 10:12   #1591
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Thanks guys for all the info on the Lutf -ud-Dowla pictures....any idea if eaither one of these cars is still around today ?
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Wasif Wali-ud-Dowla's RR was 71 DC which is in a museum in Europe and the 20 HP I don't know where. I think it was mentioned somewhere in this thread.

The Ghost with Mallya would be Dawood Jung's car. Very handsome machine !!
Mallya's SG (APX-3060) is Chassis 31-KG, a 1922 Barker Tourer
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I think the RR to the right is 71OR, a Barker sdv, the one to the left is also a New Phantom, but it looks as if it were converted to a shooting brake or some kind of bus...
Wasn't Phantom I 71OR a Josef Neuss (Germany) saloon, sold to Kurt Elschner, a hotel owner in Berlin?
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Wasn't Phantom I 71OR a Josef Neuss (Germany) saloon, sold to Kurt Elschner, a hotel owner in Berlin?
You are correct Steve (at least according to the Derby Phantoms). I think park-ward meant to say 74-OR (Barker SdV, 1st owner Nawab Moin-ud-Din Dowla).

Or maybe, he meant what he said!!!!!! We will find out
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You are correct Steve (at least according to the Derby Phantoms). I think park-ward meant to say 74-OR (Barker SdV, 1st owner Nawab Moin-ud-Din Dowla).

Or maybe, he meant what he said!!!!!! We will find out
Ah, yes, of course! We all make typo errors. Monsieur Park Ward of France will often correct mine!
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Steve after the amazing series of posts covering the PIII's you had mentioned your research was extending to other models that made it to India ( I can't recall if it was ghosts or Phantom I and II's)
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Steve could you please share pictures of the RR's that have connections with Hyderabad ?
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RR's that have connections with Hyderabad ?
Wasif lets recall all the families we know had RR's. Then we can compile a list with models and respective chassis numbers. BHpians with access to factory records/books on RR could corroborate the info.

List of individuals/families who had RR's in Hyderabad

Nizam of Hyderabad
Vicar-ul-Umra paigah
Khursheed Jah paigah
Asman Jah paigah
Nawab Dawood Jung
Dawood Jung (not the same as the famous Dawood Jung mentioned above)
Raja Pratapgir
Raja Dhanrajgir
Dara Chenoy
Alam Yar Jung
Raja of Jatprole
Raja of Pithapuram
Venkatrama Reddy

I am not aware of families other than these who had RR's. Some of these people had a couple of them. Perhaps you could think of some more people who had RR's
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Good idea and we should also have a thread RR from Hyderabad where pictures and detaisl of Rolls Royces from Hyderabad can be discussed and shared.

I will ask around for more names to ad to the list. here are a few.

1. Nawab Fakhr ul Mulk
2. Imad ul Mulk

The Nizam and the Paigah's probably owned the bulf of the cars anyway.
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There are two 2oHP cars directly sold to Hyd owners

Nawab of Hyderabad
1923 85K6 Eng. No. G557 Hooper two seater

Nawab Moinud Dowla
1923 66 H9 Eng. No. G361 Barker Tourer

Are there any pictures of these two cars around ?
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1. Nawab Fakhr ul Mulk
2. Imad ul Mulk
I would have expected Fakhr-ul-Mulk to have interesting cars given his fabulous taste in home, but knew nothing about a RR with him. Any details of what RR's he had? The last lovely car from his family was the green 48 Buick with Ghazi Jung. Not sure where the car is, maybe repainted black and with Shujath bhai

Which family is Imad-ul-Mulk?

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There are two 2oHP cars directly sold to Hyd owners
Five of the people mentioned had small HP cars. Not sure if they were bought new or used though.

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Ah, yes, of course! We all make typo errors. Monsieur Park Ward of France will often correct mine!
74OR indeed (slippery keyboard!)
At least there's one at the back of the classroom who is paying attention ;o)
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Wasif lets recall all the families we know had RR's. Then we can compile a list with models and respective chassis numbers. BHpians with access to factory records/books on RR could corroborate the info.

List of individuals/families who had RR's in Hyderabad

Nizam of Hyderabad
Vicar-ul-Umra paigah
Khursheed Jah paigah
Asman Jah paigah
Nawab Dawood Jung
Dawood Jung (not the same as the famous Dawood Jung mentioned above)
Raja Pratapgir
Raja Dhanrajgir
Dara Chenoy
Alam Yar Jung
Raja of Jatprole
Raja of Pithapuram
Venkatrama Reddy

Nawab Rasool Yar Jung owned 3 RRs according to experts & RR archives:
1. Chassis # 61CW 1920 Silver Ghost Barker Torpedo Tourer
2. Chassis # 12NC 1926 Hooper Cabriolet (Body # 6670)
3. Chassis # 83SC 1926 Connaught Tourer.
One of the above was subsequently owned by Nawab Col. Khusro Yar Khan/Jung

Cheers!
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Hello every body at team BHP.I was in Kuwait as a participant in Kuwait Concours D'elegance 2012 taking my 1924 Rolls Royce Silver Ghost and 1929 Hupmobile met Mr Manvendra from India as he was one of the judges of the event it was an honour to meet him in person.I had a great time there and a wonderful experience taking part in concours d'elegance by the grace of god my cars won two positions in class'A' 1900 to 1930. 1st position was given to my Rolls Royce and the 3rd position to my Hupmobile thought should share it with you guys some photos and video link you can view just type Kuwait concours Vintage car parade in youtube or the video link
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Dear Karim Sahab.

Congrats on winning the two awards, your cars are a delight to watch, such impeccably restored cars are indeed rare in this part of the world.

I am particularly taken with teh Huppmobile, what is its hitory. Has it been repainted recently ?

I recollect reading on PAK Wheels about the Hupp and yellow Study coming out of storage a long tiem ago in really good shape, is the Study with you as well ?
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