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Old 8th March 2013, 17:06   #1816
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Apologies stalwarts if this is already posted:

I was going through this PDF detailing RR success stories: Link. and came across a very interesting story:

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Bombay-Kholapar Trial (620 miles). Annual reliability Test of the Motor Union of Western India, February 1908. - Class V. Won by the 40-50 h.p. six-cylinder Rolls-Royce known as “The Pearl of the East,” which covered the whole distance without an involuntary stop. The car used onlt ¾-gallon of oil for the 620 miles, which included climbing six mountain passes (The Ghats), having a total rise of 5,000 feet. No tools or spares were carried, and the bonnet was locked throughout the trial, the keys being carried by the observer.
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The Rolls-Royce in India.
In addition to being the winner of its class in the Bombay Trials, the six-cylinder Rolls-Royce was declared joint winner of the Mysore Cup. This car has also, in India, secured a Silver Cup, Two Gold Medals, and two Diplomas, and was awarded first Prize for appearance at the Bombay Motor Show 1908.
Which cars were these?

While on the subject, I would also like to share an interesting ebook for Classic Rolls Royce owners on the forum: Instructions for the Care of Rolls-Royce Cars. This book also has a snippet of the same story I posted above.

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Which cars were these?

While on the subject, I would also like to share an interesting ebook for Classic Rolls Royce owners on the forum: Instructions for the Care of Rolls-Royce Cars. This book also has a snippet of the same story I posted above.

The car was the first R-R in India (at least officially) - Chassis 60576, Cockshoot Limo. Later bought by Gwalior



http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/pre-wa...ml#post2818718 (Classic Rolls Royces in India)

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Some pages featuring the Maharaja Rolls Royces from the Royal Silver Jublee Souvenir - 1977.
Sorry about the back to back posts....

Farhan, many thanks for this wonderful set of pictures.

There happens to be one more India / Maharaja car hidden in here.

It is the third car below, Silver Ghost Cabriolet de Ville Chassis 29-ED which was owned by the Maharaja of Kalsia.

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Sorry about the back to back posts....

Farhan, many thanks for this wonderful set of pictures.

There happens to be one more India / Maharaja car hidden in here.

It is the third car below, Silver Ghost Cabriolet de Ville Chassis 29-ED which was owned by the Maharaja of Kalsia.

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This one for you, Travancore. Another picture of 29 ED, found on the net
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My Contact Details are
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I will not be going to the meeting on April 7 as that is a nothing meeting for legal requirements. I do intend to make the June meet.

As for the name class of the car, the car is obviously quite unique, whatever you choose to call it. I have detail pictures of some parts, but will be making more of the inside when I visit and test drive the car on April 3. I include a picture of the engine after overhaul in the car, but not completely installed, which I took at the end of last month. The engine compartment is completely redone and it looks super, IMO, almost new looking.

I have some awful windows made from wood and plastic (the original are lost), and would like to make new ones for it. Does anyone have good pictures of the windows or similar ones that I can use as a pattern?

I also have pictures of the car being used in anti-war parades if that would be allowed on this forum. I had special static stickers and plaques made for it and I wear a costume. Let me know if you want to see them. I am quite controversial about the wars and September 11. The car appeared on Penn & Teller's Bull**** where they tried to tear me apart but succeeded in showing their own rears instead. At any rate, I do not wish to introduce politics here, but I have the pictures if people think it appropriate.

All the best and thanks for your interest in the car.
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Don't think I have seen this advertisement on the forum. Quite an interesting one at that.

Rolls Royce established their Kashmere Gate dealership in 1919 / 1920 in order to make it convenient for customers from the north to be able to get their cars serviced:

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Seen this Rolls Royce being driven through Peddar Road today. Can someone identify the model? Is it the same car as in this post? The fender lights and the headlights look different - but the body line and the bonnet vents (?) match the car.

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I believe the Qutab Minar is still in India, unless of course it got exported in the pre-ban days and ended up in the esteemed collection of the British Museum. Right next to Tutankhamen's treasures for the after-life.

Now on to the Hooper R-R Phantom I.....where is she now ?

Pastel Strawberry & Red........making up my own story, the privileged owner must have sent his wife's lipstick and nail polish to match the colours.

All kidding aside, there are four chassis numbers that this car could be, just don't know which one.

source: Illustrated London News, April 1928

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The Ravana and his "R-R Vahana" story will follow in a few days.

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Seen this Rolls Royce being driven through Peddar Road today. Can someone identify the model? Is it the same car as in this post? The fender lights and the headlights look different - but the body line and the bonnet vents (?) match the car.

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The silver car you spotted is a R-R 20 H.P.; chassis GPK6; ex-Banswara. It was previously registered RJB-9.

The car in the magazine picture below it is a Phantom I (unknown ID).

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Thanks for the clarification travancore. I guessed as much this was earlier registered as RJB 9, but wasnt very sure - had seen pics of this car long back in Auto India - and also personally at the RR Centenary Celebrations. Its a 1923 Rolls Royce Barker Tourer.

More details on the car on this page :

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/pre-wa...-india-58.html (Classic Rolls Royces in India)

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This apparent Phantom II appears in the now well known documentary on Maharaja Rolls Royces.

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Is it identified? Any known history/current status?
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This apparent Phantom II appears in the now well known documentary on Maharaja Rolls Royces......... Is it identified? Any known history/current status?
It was lying very few years ago in Indore where this photo was taken. It is a royal car, which state I forgot. Hint: that compound had a few Caddys and MG TC's.

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I think the PII is 22UK. The original owner was the 22nd Raja of Ramgarh, Kamakhya Narain Singh (1916-1970).
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I think the PII is 22UK. The original owner was the 22nd Raja of Ramgarh, Kamakhya Narain Singh (1916-1970).
Thanks Andre again!

If you watch the documentary carefully, there is a fleeting shot of the Chassis Plate - showing what certainly looks like 22UK (Thrupp & Maberly Limousine).

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Found this on Flickr. Dont know if it has been posted before. Maharaja Bhupinder Singh in his Rolls

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Found this on Flickr. Dont know if it has been posted before. Maharaja Bhupinder Singh in his Rolls

http://www.flickr.com/photos/msk_jatt/4406781646/
This is a well known photograph - however, the chassis number seems to be unconfirmed even by the experts.

My own thought is that it is Silver Ghost Chassis 52CW, Barker Tourer.
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