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Here's an ex Maharajah of Mysore Silver Wraith from 1948 WGC 31. The car survives in India. Don't remember the coachbuilder now but doesn't it look like a Hooper?

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Here's an ex Maharajah of Mysore Silver Wraith from 1948 WGC 31. The car survives in India. Don't remember the coachbuilder now but doesn't it look like a Hooper?
Slightly - if the car was in Mysore all along how come it has a MS regn. (which is very much a Madras one)
I find this the case even on some other cars which have the MS regn. but are said to be from Mysore...? Mysore state regn. shouldve been MY or ME.
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Default Rolls Royce Chassis number identification and production figures

The following is a verbatim extract of Rolls Royce chassis numbers and production data from the Rolls-Royce Owners' Club website

In view of this being a dedicated thread for Rollers its only appropriate we all get accustomed to chassis numbers and correct manner of referring to these cars


Rolls-Royce & Bentley Production
Early Cars
Approximate number produced: 106, including the three Royce cars.

Chassis Series Year Comments
Royce cars 1904 2 cylinder 10 hp.
20150 – 20163 1904/5 2 cylinder 10 hp.
20165 – 20167 1904/5
23924 1905 3 cylinder 15 hp.
23926 1905 4 cylinder 20 hp.
23927 1905 6 cylinder 30 hp., Scrapped
24263/4 1905 4 cylinder 20 hp.
24272/3 1905 3 cylinder 15 hp.
24274/5 1905 6 cylinder 30 hp. 3 pairs of cylinders
26330/2 1905 3 cylinder 15 hp.
26350 – 26354 1905/6 4 cylinder 20 hp.
26356 – 26359 1905/6
26355 1905/6 6 cylinder 30 hp. 3 pairs of cylinders
26370 – 26375 1905/6
40500 – 40511 1906 4 cylinder 20 hp.
40519 – 40533 1905/6
40518 1906 V-8 “Legalimit”
60500 – 60511 1906/7 6 cylinder 30 hp. 3 pairs of cylinders
60524 – 60538 1906/7
80500 1905 V-8

Silver Ghost
Number produced: 6,173

Original Specification: 6 cylinders (2 blocks of 3), side valves, 4 ½ X 4 ½ (7036 CC), cone clutch, 4 speeds, dual ignition with magneto and trembler coil, footbrake external contracting on propeller shaft, handbrake internal expanding on rear drums, suspension semi-elliptic front and platform rear, wheelbase 135 ½” or 143 ½”, chassis weight 2050 lbs. or 2200 lbs., tires 875 X 105 (f) and 880 X 120 (f) and 895 X 135 (r), price about ƒ980.



Chassis Series Year Comments
60539 – 60592 1907 Semi-elliptic rear suspension, 60581
60700 – 60799 1907/8
919 – 1015 1908/9 Friction shock absorbers
1100 – 1199 1909/10 3 speeds, mechanical air pump, 4 ½ X 4 Ύ (7428c.c.)
1200 – 1299 1910
1300 – 1399 1910
1400 – 1499 1910/11
1500 – 1699 1911 Vibration damper
1700 – 1799 1911 Torque tube axle
1800 – 1999 1912
2000 – 2699 1912/13 Cantilever springs from 2100 on, 4 speeds introduced at 2400
CA 1 – 20 1913 Double rear wheel brakes , chassis tie rods
NA 1 – 58 1913/14
MA 1 – 56 1914
AB 1 – 67 1914
EB 1 – 60 1914 3 speeds discontinued, 895 X 135 tires
RB 1 – 68 1914
PB 1 – 65 1914 Large carburetor standardized, threaded union
YB 1 – 66 1914
UB 1 – 67 1914
LB 1 – 68 1914
GB 1 – 49 1914
TB 1 – 37 & 55 1914/15
BD 1 – 32 1915
AD 1 – 32 1915
ED 1 – 4 1915
RD 1 – 35 1915/16
CB 1 – 37 1915
PD 19 – 33 1915
AC 1 – 28 1915 Modified chassis
X 1 – 16 1919/20/21
Show models only
PP 1 – 36 1919 Air pump on governor casing, 5 ½’radiator, electric starter and lighting, non-trembler coil, priming device
LW 1 – 48 1919
TW 1 – 81 1920
CW 1 – 102 1920
FW 1 – 121 1920
BW 1 – 165 1920
AE 1 – 141 1920
EE 1 – 141 1920
RE 1 – 81 1920
PE 1 - 81 1920
YE 1 – 81 1920
UE 1 – 81 1921
LE 1 – 81 1921
WO 1 – 279 1920/27 Armoured car chassis
GE 1 – 81 1920/21
TE 1 – 81 1921
CE 1 – 107 1921 Some numbers used by Springfield
NE 1 – 123 1921 “
AG 1 – 182 1921/22
LG 1 – 198 1921 “
MG 1 – 213 1921/22 “
JG 1 – 76 1921 “
UG 1 – 97 1921/22
SG 1 – 91 1921 “
TG 1 – 94 1922 “
KG 1 – 43 1922 Springfield used 276 KG to 400 KG
PG 1 – 44 1922
RG 1 – 43 1922
YG 1 – 81 1922
ZG 1 – 81 1922/23
HG 1 – 102 1922/23
LK 1 – 100 1923 51 – 100 duplicated by Springfield with “S” prefix
NK 1 – 100 1923
PK 1 – 63 1923 Springfield used 201 PK to 300 PK
EM 1 – 135 1923/24 Front wheel brakes
LM 1 – 71 1924
RM 1 – 103 1924 Late cars were of 144’ or 150 ½’ wheelbase, had 33 X 5 tires and Autovac
TM 1 – 103 1924
AU 1 – 141 1924/25
EU 1 – 129

Phantom I
Number produced: 2258

Original Specifications: 6 cylinders, overhead valves, 4 Ό X 5 ½ (7668CC), single plate clutch, 4 speeds, dual ignition with magneto and coil, 4 wheel brakes with servo plus independent hand brake, suspension semi-elliptic front and cantilever rear, wheelbase 144” or 150 ½”, chassis weight without spare wheel or lamps 3996 lbs., tires 33 X 5 (straight side), price ƒ1,850 or ƒ1,900 for long chassis.



Chassis Series Year Comments
MC 1 – 125 1925
RC 1 – 125 1925
HC 1 – 122 1925
LC 1 – 132 1925/26
SC 1 – 121 1926
DC 1 – 121 1926
TC 1 – 121 1926
YC 1 – 121 1926
NC 1 – 121 1926/27 Front hydraulic shock dampers
EF 1 – 101 1927 Well base wheels, 7.00 X 21 tires
LF 1 – 102 1927
RF 1 – 101 1927 Rear hydraulic shock dampers
UF 1 – 101 1927
EH 1 – 101 1928
FH 1 – 101 1928
AL 1 – 101 1928
CL 1 – 103 1928/29 Aluminum cylinder head
WR 1 – 132 1928/29 Side by side rear brakes
KR 1 – 132 1929
OR 1 – 91 1929

Phantom II
Number produced: 1681, including 281 Continentals.

Original Specification: 6 cylinders, overhead valves, 4 Ό X 5 ½ (7668 CC), single plate clutch, 4 speeds, dual ignition with magneto and coil, 4 wheel brakes with servo plus independent hand brake, suspension semi-elliptic front and rear, wheelbase 144” or 150”, chassis weight without spare wheel or lamps 3810 lbs., tires 7.00 X 21, price ƒ1,850 or ƒ1,900 for long chassis. Many cars renumbered during production.

Chassis Series Year Comments
WJ 1 – 134 1929/30
XJ 1 – 204 1929/30
GN 1 – 203 1930 20 X 7 tires from 169 GN
GY 1 – 207 1930
GX 1 – 69 1930/31
JS 1 – 86 1931/32 Thermostatic shutters
AJS 201 – 303: (L. Hand) 1931-33 Despatch Dates:
AJS 201 – 276 1931
AJS 277 – 288 1932
AJS 389 – 303 1933
MS 2 – 170 1932
AMS 201 – 224: (L. Hand) 1932/33/34 Despatch Dates:
AMS 201,207 – 209 1932
AMS 223, 224 1932
AMS 202 – 206 1933
AMS 210 – 220 1933
AMS 221, 222 1934
MY 2 – 190 1933 19 X 7 tires
MW 3 – 107 1933
PY 2 – 206 1933/34 Controllable dampers from 160 PY
RY 3 – 211 1934
SK 2 – 196 1934
TA 1 – 203 1934/35
UK 2 – 84 1935*
PII Continentals
EX 26 (prototype)
GY 82, 104
GX 6, 28, 31, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 67, 68
AJS 256, 286
JS 1, 4, 8, 11, 12, 20, 24, 33, 34, 35, 39, 60, 63, 64, 65, 72, 73, 74, 80, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85
AMS 207, 208, 209
MS 2, 4, 20, 24, 28, 32, 36, 48, 50, 54, 58, 60, 64, 66, 70, 72, 74, 76, 80, 86, 88, 90, 98, 100, 104, 106, 114, 116, 118, 122, 124, 132, 148, 150, 158
MY 2, 8, 10, 14, 16, 20, 24, 26, 32, 56, 58, 62, 64, 72, 74, 80, 82, 90, 92, 94, 106, 116, 118, 124, 126, 128, 130, 134, 140, 142, 156, 166, 170, 172, 176, 182, 186
MW 3, 7, 15, 19, 25, 31, 33, 39, 41, 45, 47, 55, 57, 69, 71, 73, 99, 101, 103
PY 2, 4, 8, 22, 24, 30, 32, 36, 42, 44, 52, 54, 62, 64, 66, 70, 72, 74, 82, 84, 86, 90, 92, 94, 98, 104, 106, 118, 136, 142, 144, 154, 156, 158, 160, 162, 164, 180, 204
RY 7, 9, 15, 23, 37, 47, 49, 55, 57, 59, 71, 77, 79, 83, 85, 89, 97, 99, 101, 109, 117, 119, 121, 125, 127, 139, 143, 147, 149, 153, 155, 157, 159, 165, 169, 175, 185, 189, 191, 197, 201, 203
SK 2, 4, 6, 8, 14, 18, 24, 60, 68, 70, 86, 88, 90, 92, 94, 96, 99, 101, 103, 109, 119, 120, 128, 138, 154, 170, 188, 190
TA 17, 21, 25, 27, 29, 45, 53, 97, 103, 109, 123, 131, 149, 161, 179, 187
UK 5, 42, 62

Phantom III
Number produced: 719, including 4 experimental cars renumbered and sold.

Original specifications: 12 cylinders (V-12), overhead valves, 82.5mm X 114.3 mm. (7338 CC), single-plate clutch, 4 speeds, dual coil ignition, 4 wheel brakes with servo plus independent hand brake, suspension independent front with enclosed coil spring and semi-elliptic rear, wheelbase 142”, chassis weight without spare wheel or lamps 4050 lbs., tires 7.00 X 18, price ƒ1,850.

Chassis Series Year Comments
3 AZ 20 – 238 1936
3 AX 1 – 201 1936
3 BU 2 – 200 1936/37
3 BT 1 – 203

1937
3 CP 2 – 200 1937
3 CM 1 – 203 1937/38 Petrol pump in frame from 3 CM 35
3 DL 2 – 200 1938/39 18 X 5 tires from 3 DL 78
3 DH 1 – 11 1939 Overdrive from 3 DL 172

Phantom IV
Number produced: 18

Original Specification: 8 cylinders (in line), overhead inlet and side exhaust valves, 92mm. X 114.3 mm. (5675 CC), single-plate clutch, 4 speeds, brakes hydraulic front and mechanical rear with servo, suspension independent front and semi-elliptic rear, wheelbase 145”, tires 7.00 X 17.

Chassis Year First Owner Coachwork
4AF2 1950 HRH Princess Elizabeth H.J. Mulliner limousine
4AF4 1950 test vehicle subsequently dismantled
4AF6 1951 The Shah of Iran H.J. Mulliner drophead
4AF8 1951 Emir of Kuwait H.J. Mulliner saloon
4AF10 1951 HRH Duke of Gloucester Hooper limousine
4AF12 1952 HRH Duchess of Kent Hooper limousine
4AF14 1952 General Franco H.J. Mulliner limousine
4AF16 1952 General Franco H.J. Mulliner limousine
4AF18 1951 General Franco H.J. Mulliner allweather
4AF20 1952 The Aga Khan Hooper sedanca de ville
4AF22 1952 Prince Talal, Saudi Arabia Franay sedanca de ville
4BP1 1953 King of Iraq Hooper limousine
4BP3 1953 Prince Regent of Iraq Hooper limousine
4BP5 1954 HM Queen Elizabeth II Hooper landaulette
4BP7 1954 HRH Princess Margaret H.J. Mulliner limousine
4CS2 1955 Emir of Kuwait H.J. Mulliner saloon
4CS4 1955 Emir of Kuwait H.J. Mulliner saloon
4CS6 1956 Shah of Persia Hooper limousine

Phantom V
Number produced: 516

Original Specification: 8 cylinders (V-8), overhead valves, 104.14 mm. X 91.44 mm. (6230 CC), 4-speed automatic gearbox, hydraulic front and combined hydraulic and mechanical rear brakes with servo, suspension independent front and semi-elliptic rear, wheelbase 144”, tires 8.90 X 15, price (chassis) ƒ3,130.

Chassis Series Year Comments
5AS 1 – 101 9/59 – 7/60
5 AT 2 – 100 8/60 – 2/61 8:1 comp. Ratio
5 BV 1 – 101 2/61 – 7/61 Delco distrib.
5 BX 2 – 100 8/61 – 1/62
5CG 1 – 79 11/61 – 11/62
5 VA 1 – 123 9/62 – 3/64 9:1 comp. Ratio
5 VB 1 – 51 11/63 – 4/64 Lucas distrib.
5 VC 1 – 51 4/64 – 10/64
5 VD 1 – 101 9/64 – 9/65
5 VE 1 – 51 9/65 – 3/66
5 VF 1 – 183 3/66 – 4/68

Phantom VI
Number produced: 374

Original Specifications: 8 cylinders (V-8), overhead valves, 104.14 mm. X 91.44 mm. (6,230 cc.) 4-speed automatic gearbox, hydraulic front and combined hydraulic and mechanical rear brakes with servo, suspension independent front and semi elliptic rear, wheelbase 145”, tires 8.90 X 15, full air conditioning, not sold new in U.S. Price 1968, ƒ13,123; price 1988, ƒ350,000 (base price).

Chassis Series Year Comments
PRH1500 1966 Prototype P-VI
PRH4108 1968 1st production P-VI, Mulliner Park Ward body
PRX4182 1969 1st “Alpha” P-VI (armored version)
PRH4700 1972 European Safety Standard-compliant
PRH4780 1973 Production transferred from Crewe to Mulliner Park Ward, Willesden
PGH101 1978 6,750 cc. engine, GM 400 3-speed gearbox, Shadow-type braking system, PVI-40 specification - H.M. the Queen’s Silver Jubilee car
MAA – 01332 1980 1stP-VI with 17-digit VIN number
MAL – 10426 1992 Last P-VI, completed 1992

Twenty H.P.
Number produced: 2,940

Original Specifications: 6 cylinders, overhead valves, 3 X 4 ½ (3,150 c.c.), single plate clutch, 3 speeds, coil ignition, independent foot and hand brakes acting on rear wheels, suspension semi-elliptic front and rear, wheelbase 129”, chassis weight 2,200 lbs., tires 32 X 4 ½, price (chassis), ƒ1,100.

Chassis Series Year Comments
40-G-1 – 50-G-O 1922/23
50-S-1 – 60-S-O 1923
60-H-1 – 70-H-O 1923
70-A-1 – 80-A-O 1923
80-K-1 – 90-K-O 1923
GA 1 – 81 1923
GF 1 – 81 1923/24
GH 1 – 81 1924
GAK 1 – 81 1924
GMK 1 – 81 1924
GRK 1 – 84 1924
GDK 1 – 81 1924
GLK 1 – 81 1924/25
GNK 1 – 94 1925
GPK 1 – 81 1925 Front wheels brakes, 4 speeds
GSK 1 – 81 1925/26
GCK 1 – 81 1926
GOK 1 – 81 1926
GZK 1 – 81 1926
GUK 1 – 81 1926
GYK 1 – 92 1926
GMJ 1 – 81 1926/27 front hydraulic shock dampers & well base wheels, 5 Ό X 21 tires
GHJ 1 – 81 1927
GAJ 1 – 81 1927
GRJ 1 – 81 1927
GUJ 1 – 81 1927
GXL 1 – 82 1927/28
GYL 1 – 82 1928 Rear hydraulic shock dampers
GWL 1 – 41 1928
GBM 1 – 81 1928
GKM 1 – 82 1928
GTM 1 – 41 1928
GFN 1 – 82 1928/29 Vertical radiator shutters, 6.00 X 21 tires
GLN 1 – 87 1929
GEN 1 – 82 1929
GVO 1 – 81 1929
GXO 1 – 10 1929

20/25 H.P.
Number produced: 3,824

Original Specifications: 6 cylinders, overhead valves, 82.6 mm. X 114.3mm. (3680 CC), single-plate clutch, 4 speeds, coil ignition with standby magneto, 4 wheel brakes with servo plus independent hand brake, suspension semi-elliptic front and rear, wheelbase 129, chassis weight 2650 lbs., tires 6.00 X 19, price (chassis) ƒ1,185. Centralized chassis lubrication.

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Chassis Series Year Comments
GXO 11 – 111 1929
GGP 1 – 81 1929/30
GDP 1 – 81 1929/30
GWP 1 – 41 1929/30
GLR 1 – 81 1930 3’’ longer chassis
GSR 1 – 81 1930
GTR 1 – 41 1930
GNS 1 – 81 1930/31
GOS 1 – 81 1931
GPS 1 – 41 1931
GFT 1 – 81 1931
GBT 1 – 81 1931/32 Thermostatic shutters from GBT 22
GKT 1 – 41 1932 Synchromesh gearbox from GKT 22
GAU 1 – 81 1932 Electric petrol gauge
GMU 1 – 81 1932
GZU 1 – 41 1932
GHW 1 – 81 1932
GRW 1 – 81 1932/33
GAW 1 – 41 1932/33
GEX 1 – 81 1933
GWX 1 – 81 1933
GDX 1 – 41 1933
GSY 1 – 101 1933
GLZ 1 – 81 1933
GTZ 1 – 81 1933
GYZ 1 – 41 1933
GBA 1 – 81 1933
GGA 1 – 81 1933
GHA 1 – 41 1933
GXB 1 – 81 1933/34
GUB 1 – 81 1934
GLB 1 – 41 1934
GNC 1 – 81 1934
GRC 1 – 81 1934
GKC 1 – 41 1934
GED 1 – 81 1934
GMD 1 – 81 1934
GYD 1 – 41 1934 Controllable dampers
GAE 1 – 81 1934 from GYD 25
GWE 1 – 81 1934
GFE 1 – 41 1934
GAF 1 – 81 1934
GSF 1 – 81 1934/35
GRF 1 – 41 1935
GLG 1 – 81 1935
GPG 1 – 81 1935
GHG 1 – 41 1935
GYH 1 – 81 1935
GOH 1 – 81 1935
GEH 1 – 41 1935
GBJ 1 – 81 1935
GLJ 1 – 81 1935
GCJ 1 – 41 1935
GXK 1 – 81 1935/36
GBK 1 – 81 1936
GTK 1 – 63 1936/37

25/30 H.P.
Number produced: 1,201

Original Specification: 6 cylinders, 4-speed overhead valves, 89 mm. X 114 mm. (4257 CC), single plate clutch, 4-speed, coil ignition with standby coil, 4-wheel brakes with servo plus independent hand brake, suspension semi-elliptic front and rear, wheelbase 132”, chassis weight 2900 lbs., 6.00 X 19 tires, price (chassis) ƒ1,100. Stromberg carburetter, S.U. petrol pumps.

Chassis Series Year Comments

GUL 1 – 81 1936/37

GTL 1 – 81 1936/37

GHL 1 – 41 1936/37

GRM 1 – 81 1936/37

GXM 1 – 81 1936/37

GGM 1 –41 1936/37

GAN 1 – 81 1936/37 New type steering controls

GWN 1 – 81 1936/37

GUN 1 – 41 1936/37

GRO 1 – 81 1937

GHO 1 – 81 1937

GMO 1 – 41 1937

GRP 1 – 81 1937 Deturbolated cylinder head

GMP 1 –81 1937

GLP 1 – 41 1937

GAR 1 – 81 1937/38

GGR 1 – 81 1938

GZR 1 – 41 1938

Wraith
Number Produced: 492

Original Specification: 6 cylinders, overhead valves, 89 mm. X 114mm. (4257 CC), single plate clutch, 4 speeds, coil ignition with standby coil, 4 wheel brakes with servo, suspension independent front with enclosed coil spring and semi-elliptic rear, wheelbase 136”, chassis weight 3040 lbs. 6.50 X 17 tires, price (chassis) ƒ1,100.

Chassis Series Year Comments

WXA 1 – 109 1938/39

WRB 1 – 81 1938/39

WMB 1 – 81 1939

WLB 1 – 41 1939

WHC 1 – 81 1939

WEC 1 – 81 1939

WKC 1 – 25 1939

Silver Wraith
Number produced: 1244 short wheelbase, 639 long wheelbase.

Original Specification: 6 cylinders, overhead inlet and side exhaust valves, 88.9 mm. X 114.3 mm. (4257 CC), single plate clutch, 4 speeds, brakes hydraulic front and mechanical rear with servo, suspension independent front and semi-elliptic rear, wheelbase 127”, tires 6.50 X 17, price (chassis) about ƒ1,800.

Chassis Series Year Comments

WTA 1 – 85 1946/47 127’ wheelbase

WVA 1 – 81 1946/47

WYA 1 – 87 1946/47

WZB 1 – 65 1947/48

WAB 1 – 65 1947/48

WCB 1 – 73 1947/48

WDC 1 – 101 1948/50

WFC 1 – 101 1948/50

WGC 1 – 101 1948/50

WHD 1 – 101 1950

WLE 1 – 35 1950/51

WME 1 – 96 1950/51

WOF 1 – 76 1951 92 mm. X 114.3 mm. (4566 c.c.)

WSG 1 – 76 1951/52

WVH 1 – 116 1952 Automatic gearbox optional

ALW 1 – 51 1951 Long wheelbase (133’)

BLW 1 – 101 1952/53

CLW 1 – 43 1953/54

DLW 1 – 169 1954/55 95.25 mm. X 114.3 mm. (4887 c.c.) and standard gearbox, both late in series

ELW 1 – 101 1955/56

FLW 1 – 101 1956/57

GLW 1 – 26 1957

HLW 1 – 52 1958

Silver Dawn
Numbered produced: 761

Original Specifications: 6 cylinders, overhead inlet and side exhaust valves, 88.9 mm. X 114.3 mm. (4257 CC), single plate clutch, 4 speeds, brakes hydraulic front and mechanical rear with servo, suspension independent front and semi-elliptic rear, wheelbase 120”, weight (complete car) about 4000 lb., tires 6.50 X 16, price (saloon) about ƒ2,500.

Chassis Series Year Comments

SBA 2 – 138 1949/51

SCA 1 – 63 1949/51

SDB 2 – 140 1951

SFC 2 – 160 1951/52 99 mm. X 114.3 mm. (4566 c.c.)

SHD 2 – 60 1952

SKE 2 – 50 1952/53 Automatic gearbox optional

SLE 1 – 51 1952/53

SMF 2 – 76 1953/54 Automatic gearbox standard

SNF 1 – 125 1953/54

SOG 2 – 100 1954

SPG 1 – 101 1954

SRH 2 – 100 1954

STH 1 – 101 1954

SUJ 2 – 130 1954/55

SVJ 1 – 133 1954/55

Silver Cloud I
Number produced: 2238 standard, 122 long wheelbase

Original Specification: 6 cylinders, overhead inlet and side exhaust valves, 92.25 mm. X 114.3 mm. (4887 CC), 4 speed automatic gearbox, hydraulic front and combined hydraulic and mechanical rear brakes with servo, suspension independent front and semi-elliptic rear, wheelbase 123”, weight (complete car) 4370 lbs., tires 8.20 X 15, price (chassis) ƒ2,555 (saloon) ƒ3,385.

Chassis Series Year Comments

SWA 2 – 250 1955/56 123” wheelbase

SXA 1 – 251 1955/56

SYB 2 – 250 1956

SZB 1 – 251 1956

SBC 2 – 150 1956/57

SCC 1 – 151 1956/57 Power steering optional

SDD 2 – 450 1957/58

SED 1 – 451 1957/58

SFE 1 – 501 1957/58

SGE 2 – 500 1957/58

SHF 1 – 249 1958/59

SJF 2 – 250 1958/59

SKG 1 – 125 1959

SLG 2 – 126 1959

SMH 1 – 265 1959

SNH 2 – 262 1959

ALC 1 – 26 1957/58 Long wheelbase (127”)

BLC 1 – 51 1958/59

CLC 1 – 47 1959

Silver Cloud II
Number Produced: 2418 standard, 299 long wheelbase

Original Specification: 8 cylinders (V-8), overhead valves, 104.14 mm. X 91.44 mm. (6230 CC), 4 speed automatic gearbox, power steering, hydraulic front and combined hydraulic and mechanical rear brakes with servo, suspension independent front and semi-elliptic rear, wheelbase 123”, weight (complete car) 4450 lbs., tires 8.20 X 15, price (complete car) about ƒ4,095.

Chassis Series Year Comments

SPA 2 – 326 1959 123” wheelbase

SRA 1 – 325 1960

STB 2 – 500 1960

SVB 1 – 501 1960

SWC 2 – 730 1960

SXC 1 – 671 1961

SYD 2 – 550 1961

SZD 1 – 551 1961

SAE 1 – 685 1962

LCA 1 – 76 1960 Long wheelbase (127”)

LCB 1 – 101 1961

LCC 1 – 101 1961

LCD 1 – 25 1962

Silver Cloud III
Number Produced: 2,555 standard, 254 long wheelbase

Original Specification: 8 cylinders (V-8), overhead valves, 104.14 mm. X 91.44 mm. (6230 CC), 4-speed automatic gearbox, power steering, hydraulic front and combined hydraulic and mechanical rear brakes with servo, suspension independent front and semi-elliptic rear, wheelbase 123” or 127”, weight (complete car) 4450 lbs., tires 8.20 X 15, price (complete car) about ƒ4,400.

Chassis Series Year Comments

SAZ 1 – 61 1962 123” wheelbase

SCX 1 – 877 1962/63

SDW 1 – 601 1963

SEV 1 – 495 1963/64

SFU 1 – 803 1963/64

SGT 1 – 659 1964

SHS 1 – 357 1964/65

SJR 1 – 623 1964/65

SKP 1 – 423 1965

CSC 1B – 141B 1965

CSC 1C – 83C 1965/66

CAL 1 – 83 1962/63

CBL 1 – 61 1963 CCL 1 – 101 1963/64 Long wheelbase (127”)

CDL 1 – 95 1964

CEL 1 – 105 1964/65

CFL 1 – 41 1965

CGL 1 – 27 1965

Silver Shadow, Silver Shadow II, Corniche, Camargue, T & T2
Number Produced: 37,174

Original Specification:8 cylinders (V-8), overhead valves, 6230 cc, 4-speed automatic gearbox, power steering, hydraulic disc brakes and mechanical handbrake, independent suspension front and rear, automatic height control.

In 1966, with the introduction of the Silver Shadow/T, a new system of chassis numbering began using three letters and four or five numbers. The letters did not denote small series or batches of cars as earlier chassis letters had. Rather, these letters were codes following the pattern below. The numbers were just sequence numbers. In this book, these cars are listed in numerical-sequence order.

An entire chassis number looks like this: SRX2442 or CBX6566 or DRB17463. Use the chart below to read these numbers.

1stletter = body style
2nd letter = make
3rdletter = position of steering/year

C = coachbuilt 2-door coupe
(R = Rolls-Royce, H = Home (right handrive)throughout, B = Bentley drophead to 6646)
G = PV I, 3 speed
X = Export (left handdrive)
D = drophead from 6647 A = 1972 (lhd).
L = long wheelbase with or Without division
B = 1973 (lhd)
P = Phantom VI
J = Carmargue C = 1974 (lhd).
S = standard steel saloon
D = 1975 (lhd) E = 1976 (lhd) F = 1977 (lhd) G = 1978 (lhd)
K = 1979 (lhd)
L = 1980 (lhd)

Thus;
RX2442 is a standard steel saloon Silver Shadow Rolls-Royce with left hand drive;
CBX6566 is a 2-door Bentley with left hand drive; and
DRB17463 is a drophead Rolls-Royce Corniche 1973.

Change/Feature introduced at sequence no.;
First Silver Shadow/Bentley T 1001
2 door coupe 1148
2 door drophead 1698
U.S. Federal Safety Standards 6000
Lwb saloon 6599
Engine size increased from 6230 to 6750cc 9200 – 9350
Corniche coupe 9770
Corniche drophead 9919
Camargue 16648
Silver Shadow II 30001 (rack & pinion steering; revised facia; lwb version named Silver Wraith II)
Corniche/Camargue with mineral oil hydraulics 50001

Silver Spirit, Silver Spur, Corniche, Mulsanne, Mulsanne L, Eight, Turbo R, Continental, Silver Dawn, Arnage & Silver Seraph
In 1980 when the cars above were announced, a radically changed system of Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) type chassis numbers was applied to all Rolls-Royce built cars. These 17-digit alphanumerics hold information on each car in coded form as follows : - country of maker , marque, line of manufacture, body style, engine type, occupant restraint system, model year, plant of manufacture, position of steering, and sequence number.

Given in full, these numbers look like this: SCAZS42A8 BCX01795. RROC, following an informal company policy, reduces this string to an 8-digit shorthand. In addition, RROC adds a dash between the letters and numbers to make clear instantly that the car in question is a Silver Spirit and not a Silver Shadow.

The 3 letters in the shorthand form are: 5th, 3rd, 10th. Thus SCAZS42A8BCX01795 has the relevant letters underscored and becomes SAB-01795. (For the Silver Seraph and Arnage models, the 3 digits in the shorthand form are the 4th, 5th& 10thdigits.)

5thletter = body style 3rd letter 10th digit = year

A = Silver Dawn A = Rolls-Royce A = 1980

B = Continental R B = Bentley B = 1981

C = Corniche coupe C = Red Label C = 1982

D = Corniche drophead D = 1983

E = Eight/Brooklands E = 1984

F = Brooklands LWB F = 1985

G = Flying Spur G = 1986

J = Camargue H = 1987

K = Azure J = 1988

L = (Silver Spur/Mulsanne L, LWB or K = 1989

Arnage, Seraph) L = 1990

M = Phantom limousine M = 1991

N = lwb saloon w/o div. N = 1992

(Silver Spur/Mulsanne) P = 1993

R = TURBO R = 1994

S = saloon (Silver Spirit/Mulsanne) S = 1995

T = Phantom landaulette T = 1996

U = Continental T V = 1997

Z = Bentley Continetnal SC W = 1998

X = 1999

Y = 2000

1 = 2001

Thus SAB 11111 is a standard Rolls-Royce Silver Spirit built in 1981, and is car no. 11111 in sequence. DAB-03804 would be a Corniche drophead Rolls-Royce built in 1981, car no. 03804.

APPENDIX II

SPRINGFIELD CARS: 1921-1931

Silver Ghost
Number produced: 1,701

Chassis Series Year Comments

CE, NE, AG 1921

LG, MG, JG 1921

UG 1921/22

SG, TG, BG 1922

276 – 400 KG 1922/23

301 – 425 XH 1923

326 – 450 HH 1923

51 – 175 JH 1923

176 – 300 KF 1924 Six volt electrical system from 201 KF

301/400 LF 1924

401 – 450 MF 1924

S 51 – 100 LK 1925

S 101 – 200 MK 1925 L.H. drive. 3 speeds. Double battery ignition.

S 201 – 300 PK 1925

S 301 – 400 RK 1925

S 401 – 408 FK 1925

S 109 – 225 ML 1925/26

S 226 – 325 PL 1926

S 326 – 403 RL 1926 R-R tubular bumpers. Vertical slat shutters.

Phantom I
Number produced: 1,243

Chassis Series Year Comments

S 400 – 465 FL 1926 Overhead valves, iron cylinder head,

centralized chassis lubrication, vacuum fuel

feed, four wheel brakes.

S 66 – 200 PM 1927

S 201 – 300 RM 1927

S 301 – 400 FM 1927 De Jon ignition from S336FM

S 101 – 200 RP 1928

S 201 – 300 FP 1928

S 301 – 400 KP 1928 20 x 7 tires. External valances

S 101 – 200 FR 1929 Aluminum cylinder head, chromium plating

S 201 – 300 KR 1929 Conical lamps, flat bar bumpers, automatic shutters, swinging trunk racks.

S 301 – 400 LR 1929

S 401 – 500 MR 1930

S 101 – 241 PR 1930/31

Early Springfield Chassis Letters

During the earliest years of production at Springfield, the same chassis letters were used at both Derby and Springfield. Below are the numbers in each letter series assigned to Springfield-built chassis:

CE 102 – 107

NE 112 – 123

AG 7, 11, 15, 19, 22, 26, 30, 33, 36, 39, 42, 45, 51, 53, 57, 60, 63, 66, 69

LG 4, 7, 14, 16, 19, 22, 27, 30, 35, 39, 43, 46, 50, 53, 58, 63, 67, 72, 75,

79, 83, 87, 90, 94, 97, 100, 105, 108, 111, 114, 119, 123

MG 5, 9, 14, 19, 24, 28, 33, 39, 42, 46, 50, 55, 59, 63, 68, 73, 77, 82, 85,

89, 95, 99, 103, 108, 112, 117, 120, 125, 131, 136, 140, 143

JG 4, 9, 15, 21, 26, 30, 35, 39, 44, 49, 55, 58, 59, 63, 69, 74, 78, 82, 87,

93, 96, 98, 103, 107, 112, 116, 122, 128, 133, 142, 147, 151, 155

UG 2, 5, 8, 12, 15, 18, 21, 24, 27, 30, 33, 36, 39, 42, 45, 48, 51, 53, 56, 59,

62, 65, 66, 68, 70, 73, 76, 80, 83, 86, 90, 93, 96

SG 5, 9, 14, 19, 23, 28, 34, 39, 43, 47, 51, 55, 59, 63, 68, 74, 78, 82, 85,

89, 94, 99, 103, 108, 112, 116, 120, 124, 128, 132, 136, 140

TG 4, 7, 10, 18, 22, 26, 30, 34, 36, 40, 45, 49, 53, 58, 63, 67, 71, 75, 79,

83, 87, 91, 95, 99, 105, 109, 114, 119, 124, 128, 133

BG 5, 11, 16, 17, 21, 22, 25, 30, 35, 39, 43, 44, 49, 55, 60, 64, 68, 74, 80,

85, 89, 95, 101, 106, 111, 115, 121, 126, 132, 139, 145, 150, 154,

159, 164, 254, 263 – 275

KG 276 – 400.

Brewster and Rolls-Royce Custom Coachwork Terms

Most bodies built in the U.S.A. to fit Springfield or AJS/AMS cars were built to one of a series of standard designs. Rolls-Royce of America, Inc., used specific names for these designs; RROC uses them also. The list below gives the generic equivalents.

Arundel limousine

Ascot tourer

Avon sedan

Berwick sedan

Buckingham limousine

Canterbury limousine

Carlton town car

Chatsworth town car

Croydon convertible coupe

Derby tourer

Dinsdale limousine

Dovedale limousine

Harwick sedan

Henley convertible coupe

Huntington limousine

Kenilworth sedan

Keswick town car

Lonsdale limousine

Marlborough town car

Mayfair town car

Newmarket convertible sedan

Newport town car

Norwick limousine

Nottingham sedan

Oxford tourer

Paddington limousine

Pall Mall tourer

Piccadily roadster

Pickwick limousine

Playboy convertible coupe

Regent convertible coupe

Riviera town car

Rowdale limousine

Salamanca convertible town car

Savoy town car

St. Alban town car

St. Andrew town car

St. Martin town car

St. Regis town car

St. Stephen landaulet

Speedster tourer

Stratford coupe or convertible

Suburban limousine

Sudbury sedan

Tilbury sedan

Torpedo sedan

Trouville town car

Warwick limousine

Wimbledon coupe

York roadster

Springfield Chassis Numbers

Until 1923, engine numbers were coded to show year of production followed by sequence within the year. Thus, 21–56 is engine 56, made in 1921. Starting in 1923, engine numbers were coded to show year of production and chassis number. Thus, 21548 is an engine made in 1928 (first and last digits) and fitted to chassis S154FR (middle digits).
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Slightly - if the car was in Mysore all along how come it has a MS regn. (which is very much a Madras one)
I find this the case even on some other cars which have the MS regn. but are said to be from Mysore...? Mysore state regn. shouldve been MY or ME.
You may be right. The provenance of this car could be investigated. I was told this was a Mysore car. Often even owners seem to quote incorrectly. Please do help in correctly identifying car histories
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yes, looks like a hooper empress line, these lamps on a wraith are not so common, usually they had p100s, these were usually found on the MK VI bentley. thse lamps make it look like a dawn. personally, i prefer the dawn to the silver wraith

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In UK, if your car broke down, they would come and take it away, repair it and bring it back very quickly and many repairs were deleted from their records to prevent any record of failure.... But they didn't break down very often due to stringent quality control.
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"A Rolls Royce never breaks down, it simply fails to proceed"


While on the subject of breakdown legend has it that once a customer pointed to a starting handle on a Rolls equipped with electric self start and commented:

" How come Rolls has provoded a manual handle on a car with electric start? Does Rolls not think the starter is reliable?"

To which a witty salesman promptly replied:

" Sire the chances of ever using the manual handle are about as remote as you ever needing to use the nipples on your chest"

PS Karlos may I request you to please repost in this thread all Rolls Royce pictures you so kindly have posted elsewhere

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Yes Awini I am told so, I have not yet had the pleasure of seeing them but a friend who did forwarded these pictures for our viewing pleasure

Julian may I request you to re-post in this thread all the Rolls pictures you have so kindly posted elsewhere. Thanks
something is not right with these cars, i feel all have been rebodied,except the green 1913 ghost, which has been in the same ownership since 1928. the shape of the fenders and body do not match the period of the chassis.
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Here's one from Pune done around 600 miles till date.

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Here is an enigne shot of that car. Last I rememebr she was awaiting a new Delco cap.

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Also giving it company is this 27 Barker, ex Nawab of Sachin.

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This 1934 Rolls-Royce Phantom II, with a "Continental"-engine and a Torpedo body by Thrupp & Maberly was built for the Maharajah of Rajkot. It was called "The Star of India"
If I remember correct, the Rajkot Rolls is another timewarp car, and that is the original paint too! (albeit heavily treated)

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This is a Silver Ghost hard to tell the year but there are no front brakes so its not a late one. Love the scalloped mudguards
And what about the Crossley behind it? Does that give any clue on the cars provenance?

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something is not right with these cars, i feel all have been rebodied,except the green 1913 ghost, which has been in the same ownership since 1928. the shape of the fenders and body do not match the period of the chassis.
I noticed that too, but figured it was no the whim of that particular Maharaja.
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The Nawab of Sachin 20 hp Barker tourer was car GRJ 1 and has eng. no. W 8 E.

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something is not right with these cars, i feel all have been rebodied, except the green 1913 ghost, which has been in the same ownership since 1928. the shape of the fenders and body do not match the period of the chassis.
Absolutely,
the red Ghost chassis is pre 1924 but the body looks late 20s or 30s and the Torpedo bodied Ghost is pre 24 but the mudguards and hood look suspicious.
As for the bus…. Very big family.
Even the green pre war Ghost mudguards look later.

The Mysore Siver Ghost sporting Victoria needs a place here on this thread
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from Karachi I believe
YouTube - kchhapra's Channel

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Yes we shall, even though we've been temporarily blinded by that!
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something is not right with these cars, i feel all have been rebodied,except the green 1913 ghost, which has been in the same ownership since 1928. the shape of the fenders and body do not match the period of the chassis.
Funny how I had the same thought when I saw these pictures

However, two of these cars with the same bodies are featured in a period picture in Manvendra Singh's book on page 206 and 266. I think in all likelihood the Maharajah of Bharatpur may have had these type of bodies commisioned. We can research if these were done in India or came like this

The rear of the blue ghost looks too odd but then again if these were built like this in those days in India can't say!!

All the same we can research more info on these cars

Following are pictures of some cars from the Mewar collection which obviously had special conversions

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The following car was not originally a Udaipur car, presently part of the collection though

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The present Maharajah of Jodhpur has done a splendid job of converting the awe inspiring Mehrangarh Fort into a museum. The Mp3 audio guide is a wonderful way to experience the fort and I strongly recommend a visit to Jodhpur as a tourist.

Umaid Bhavan palace, the largest art deco home in the world serves as the Maharajah's residence and the major part is converted into a hotel.

As several of the Maharajah's cars have been featured in magazines and considering the family being so proactive in promoting tourism I feel it is appropriate to share some pictures of his lovely cars

Here is the fabulous Windover Continental

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And the spectacular 1927 Phantom 1 chassis 94 RF in Aluminium finish. This car has mosquitoe netting in windows. It also features double sunroofs and Stephen Grebel lamps

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Some lovely old pictures in the beginning of this Youtube film
What a superb film! I really enjoyed it, it let the pictures do the talking. Quite enjoyed Mozart's No 25 after ages too!
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