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Old 13th May 2008, 01:11   #301
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Hello,

Hereby some more Indian Silver Ghost pictures. Please tell me, if possible known, the chassisnumbers.

1910 Silver Ghost Khairpur State
1912 Silver Ghost from the stable of Indian Collector Fakirchand Raghunath (2x)
1922 Silver Ghost Maharaja of Udaipur
1924 Silver Ghost Maythorn Maharaja of Jupa


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Unidentified / Misidentified "Indian" Rolls Royces:

Here are two (possibly PIII's) that have not been positively identified:

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Initially I thought this may be Phantom III - 3DL26 Thrupp & Maberly - Maharaja of Parlakamedi; but the vents/louvres on the side of the bonnet are very different.

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This car was advertised as a 1936 Phantom III - 3AZ178 formerly belonging to the Maharaja of Dharbanga

However this chassis # belongs to a Barker Limousine, per the Derby Phantoms.

Is this a PIII at all ?

Or, could this be a rebody on 3BU50 (originally a Thrupp & Maberly Landaulette / Dharbanga)
Cannot see owing to the dark blue paintwork whether this Phantom III Thrupp and Maberly body has 2 or 4 doors. If it has 4 doors, then it is hardly distinguishable from the several Gurney Nutting-bodied RR 25-30 4 door dropheads which came to India. Almost all of them are on the Gurney Nutting thread on this site.
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Hello,

Hereby some more Indian Silver Ghost pictures. Please tell me, if possible known, the chassisnumbers.

1910 Silver Ghost Khairpur State
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This car (Khairpur) is actually a 1932 Phantom II (Chassis # 44MY) by Hooper

It is sometimes referred to as a "Continental" - because of some specifications. However, it is not listed as a Continental by Gentile in the "RR Phantom II Continental"

This car is very similar (ducktail) to the Jaipur PII that is shown in this thread (posting #2 , currently on page 21 - last page).

I am attacing an original photo from Rolls Royce

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Hello,

Hereby some more Indian Silver Ghost pictures. Please tell me, if possible known, the chassisnumbers.

1912 Silver Ghost from the stable of Indian Collector Fakirchand Raghunath (2x)

Regards-Henk
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This car is the Mysore Throne car (best guess 1911 Silver Ghost Chassis # 1683). If you look closely, you can see the "Mysore Double Headed Eagle" embroidered on the back seat.

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This car has recently been in the news - being sold by the Richard Solove collection. However, it now seems to sport "straight" front wings / fenders (as opposed to more curved in this period picture.

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The location seems to be the Mysore garages.
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Might this be the 1937 Phantom III (Chassis # 3BU50) by Thrupp & Maberly - Maharaja of Dharbanga ? Can someone confirm ?

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This also looks like a PIII. Any idea of the Chassis # ?

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These pictures are all from this thread!
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Spotted a dark olive green 1980's Silver Spirit at the Rajendra Sinjhi instutute road in pune.
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Here is what I know of RR PII Continentals with an "India" connection. All listings of Chassis#'s / owners are from "The RR Phantom II Continental" by Raymond Gentile.

1934 / 101-SK; Barker Touring Saloon / N.R. Chandler, Bombay / W.J. Oldham, Channel Islands
Heres a picture of 101SK in India in 1935:
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From an old RREC article.

Regarding the Darbhanga? PIII, I worked on that car and still know the previous owner I will see what records they still have. It was sent to the UK for restoration many years ago.

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Here is another one for you DKG!

1920 RR Silver Ghost Chassis 55CW (Raja Pratapgiriji of Hyderabad)
(picture courtesy of RROC / Lars deJounge)

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A period photo of the Udaipur Rolls Royce Jeep & Truck:
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Here is another one for you DKG!

1920 RR Silver Ghost Chassis 55CW (Raja Pratapgiriji of Hyderabad)
(picture courtesy of RROC / Lars deJounge)

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Here is a better picture of the Raja Pratapgiriji / Lars de Lounge SG #55CW
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Might this be the 1937 Phantom III (Chassis # 3BU50) by Thrupp & Maberly - Maharaja of Dharbanga ? Can someone confirm ?

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This also looks like a PIII. Any idea of the Chassis # ?

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These pictures are all from this thread!
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These cars are respectively 3BU120 & 3CP112. The Nabha car is always referred as "Taj Mahal" not Nabha. There was a close-up picture in a club magazine but I don't remember which one. Here's a pic of the car which is larger than what you see on screen.
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Prem,
These cars are respectively 3BU120 & 3CP112. The Nabha car is always referred as "Taj Mahal" not Nabha. There was a close-up picture in a club magazine but I don't remember which one. Here's a pic of the car which is larger than what you see on screen.
Thanks again park-ward for identification of these cars. We really appreciate it!

How different 3CP112 looks! This ex-Prince of Baroda car had a magnificent leopard skin interior and was finished in a parrot green (Windovers Saloon)- see below:
(pictures courtesy of Praeclarum and a T-BHP member who spent a lot of time in India)

RR PIII Chassis 3CP112 Windovers Saloon (Prince of Baroda)

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Does anyone who has seen this car before remember the exotic interior ???
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These cars are respectively 3BU120 & 3CP112.
Identified by park-ward as PIII 3BU120 (Windovers saloon limousine; first owner Max Linde per "The Derby Phantoms")
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Does anyone know if this car actually belonged to the Dharbanga fleet or does it just happen to have a Dharbanga (?) "DBG" registration ?

Any history of its life in India ?
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I know a fair bit about the recent history of 3BU120 upto its last change of ownership but I must get some permission. (Some of it I posted earlier) It is a well known car in Delhi.

In the mean time.
If one visits Rolls-Royce Motor Cars | Design without compromise then click on “Broadband/Cable (DSL)” (you need Flashplayer 8), then when it starts, click “skip movie” bottom right, then from the horizontal menu choose “Company history” from the menu that appears when you hover the cursor over “Rolls Royce”, then click on the camera logo on the left, then click “next” 3 times to pass through the next 3 photos you will see a lovely clear photo of an early Silver Ghost outside a Rolls Royce Indian Depot building somewhere in India. It doesn’t look like Hughes Road, Bombay or Park Street in Calcutta. Which city was it?


Here is a picture of Phantom 1 # 71 DC with its new owner in the sixties:
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The point to remember I think is that prior to the export ban it was just like importing any vintage car from any other country. No big deal, many would have rotted away. I know of a vintage Rolls Royce that was recently exported from UK to India. It works both ways.

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Julian,
. I don't have any connection between 3BT121 and India.
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3BT121 was identified by Traumauto archiv as an ex-Maharaja of Baroda car. The car is now with Vale Wedding Co. in London.

Car was winner of the Coupe de l'Exposition, France 1937 (per Derby Phantoms). Could it be possible, Baroda bought it there ?

Would be interesting to confirm the Baroda connection. (Julian - hint, hint!!!)
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