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Old 26th March 2008, 23:03   #76
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Are you sure that steering wheel is original? Look at the special curves of the lower photo the PIII wheel looks like they've chopped a lump out
Quite possible, considering they chopped the whole roof off! That hood looks like a jeep at the right angles.

I wonder how one makes a U turn with a wheel like that though.

Tell us more about the blue cabrio. Very pretty looking car, I was told it is a one owner car still in original paint! Can you confirm that?
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The Vanden Plas cut door RR was apparently ordered by a British gentleman in Calcutta who being short wanted the top of the steering off, ordered originally so I am told.
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Tell us more about the blue cabrio. Very pretty looking car, I was told it is a one owner car still in original paint! Can you confirm that?
Neither is the car one owner nor in original paint. But a stunner alright.
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1930 Rolls Royce Phantom II Barker sedanca de ville owned by the Raja of Tirwa. Picture taken at Lucknow in 1966-67. Colour was black and primrose. Still owned by their family, I am informed.
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Quite possible, considering they chopped the whole roof off! That hood looks like a jeep at the right angles.

I wonder how one makes a U turn with a wheel like that though.

Tell us more about the blue cabrio. Very pretty looking car, I was told it is a one owner car still in original paint! Can you confirm that?
What this one?
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It was in a Delhi rally in 87 (as the board shows), I think it had come from Calcutta, I think its a 20/25, thats all I can remember. It is nice though.

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An important name to mention in a Rolls thread is Yohan Poonawala. Here are a few of his Rollers.

1937 Phatom III when freshly restored. She now sports whitewalls and has lost the disc wheel-covers. The queer steering wheel should be original, as Ive seen a couple more as well. The dash appears to be a locally redone job. The car was originally a hardtop, with the cabrio conversion done later in India. Im told there was a British gent in Calcutta (?) who was well known for cutting up these classics, and this was one of them. Just telling
you what i was told, cant confirm it.

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Hi karlosdeville:

Do you know the Chassis # for the Poownawalla PIII (Panchkote)? "The Derby Phantoms" book lists Chassis # 3CM37 (delivered to Panchkote, January 1938) as a Saloon by Park Ward. Hence the story of the top being chopped off may be true!

Thanks for asking me to write my Intro! I will, for right now, thought I should focus on the cars!!!

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This one always stands at the Leela in Mumbai
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Do you know the Chassis # for the Poownawalla PIII (Panchkote)? "The Derby Phantoms" book lists Chassis # 3CM37 (delivered to Panchkote, January 1938) as a Saloon by Park Ward. Hence the story of the top being chopped off may be true!
The chop top part of it is no story for sure. It is such a crude design one can instantly tell. But nice that we now have confirmation as well.
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This Wraith (?) was apparently ex Nabha as well, and is now in Germany.
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A couple more cars courtesy xoticars. Can anyone shed more light on these?
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A couple more cars courtesy xoticars. Can anyone shed more light on these?
The light blue and dark blue combo RR is a PIII with Mr. Sanghi. I think the smaller RR is with him too if I remember (maybe wrong about the smaller car though, Ajit can clarify)

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Rolls-Royce Phantom II cars sent to India

The Maharajah of Darbhanga
1930 3XJ open tourer by Hooper
1930 2GY landaulette by Thrupp and Maberly
Maharani of Baroda
1930 April 101WJ Kellner Cabriolet
1934 Oct 104SK Kellner Landaulette
Maharajah of Patiala
1934 Nov 110SK Thrupp and Maberly Sedanca de Ville
Sardar Sahib Prithipal Singh
1929 Dec 76WJ Hooper Open Tourer
Rajah of Ramad
1930 Aug 78WJ Barker Open Tourer
Maharajah of Darbhanga
1930 Jan 3XJ Hooper Open Tourer
1930 Sept 2GY Landaulette
Maharajah of Jodhpur
1934 Feb 15RY Binder Coupe
1935 Sept 62UK Gurney Nutting Saloon Coupe
Maharajah of Rewa
1930 Feb 86XJ Hooper Open Tourer
Maharajah of Rajpipla
1930 May 154XJ Windovers Limousine
1934 June 181RJ Windovers Sedanca de Ville
1935 June 171TA Windovers Saloon with division
Maharajah of Kalahandi
1930 Aug 183GN Thrupp and Maberly Limousine
Maharajah of Jaipur
1930 Dec 22GX Barker Open Tourer
1933 Sept 89MW Hooper Sports tourer
H H Gaekwar of Baroda
1930 April 70WJ Barker Open Tourer
1934 Aug 30SK Windovers Drop Head Coupe
Prince of Khairpur
1933 April 44MY Hooper Sports tourer
Rajah of Ramgarh
1935 Aug 22UK Thrupp and Maberly Limousine
Raja Khaja Pershad
1933 May 98MY Hooper Limousine
Rajah of Hathoura
1933 Oct 105MW Barker Open Tourer
Nawab of Bahawalpur
1934 Feb 180PY Barker fixed Head coupe
Bahedur of Rakot
1934 April 188PY Thrupp and Maberly Cabriolet
Ruler of Nandgaon
1930 March 50XJ Barker Open Tourer
Prince Bishum of Nepal
1935 Feb 172SK H J Mulliner Sedanca de Ville
Rana of Nepal
1935 May 191TA Windovers Limousine

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The light blue and dark blue combo RR is a PIII with Mr. Sanghi. I think the smaller RR is with him too if I remember (maybe wrong about the smaller car though, Ajit can clarify)
Thought I read in a link from Team-BHP that the second car (TDV-1) is ex-Jaipur, now in Coimbatore (?). Cannot remember which link it was.
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Deepak, the bigger car is the Sanghi car. The dark blue car is believed to be an ex Jaipur car. The owner lives in Coimbatore, and that's what he told me. A nice car.
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In the Phantom II list
Maharajah of Jodhpur
1934 Feb 15RJ Binder Coupe should be Chassis no 15RY not 15RJ
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