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Old 3rd August 2009, 11:37   #1036
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On closer inspection of the said car in the picture supplied by Harit the three wheels visible all have different kinds of wheel lugs / caps.

Also the ftont bumper looks like a custom addition.
Any comments on this ??
The front hub carries a special rig for wheel discs. They consist of steel spokes which hold a large threaded ring in place - that's what is left here - and a ring nut which is screwed on it to press the disc against the wheel rim.
The spare wheel hub shows a non RR device which prevents the wheel to wobble in its well, the RR part has a chromed handle.
The rear wheel shows a perfectly standard RR hub.

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Yes you are right a rolls in calcutta has a cut steering.This car used to belong to a parsi gentleman who was short and couldn't look through the wheel so he ordered the car with half a steering wheel.That car used to belong to state janjera if i'm not wrong and was given to the son-in-law of the family who is now based in calcutta and is very well known to many on this forum.The rolls he has is a 1937.
The 1937 Phantom III with a cut steering wheel is 3CM37, now in the care of Johan Poonawalla. The steering wheel was not the only cut-off part, the roof was also sawn off to convert the saloon body into a tourer.

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Old 3rd August 2009, 11:53   #1037
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Excerpts for the website District Kanker Chhattisgarh - Great men

"Maharajdhiraj was also a gifted photographer and an automobile connoisseur and had a pair of Rolls Royces, in addition to other cars he also patronized sports and club activities of Komal Deo Club Kanker"
One of his RR was Silver Wraith #WVA76, a Hooper limousine, but I don't know the other one.
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The 1937 Phantom III with a cut steering wheel is 3CM37, now in the care of Johan Poonawalla. The steering wheel was not the only cut-off part, the roof was also sawn off to convert the saloon body into a tourer.


Is he based in Hydrabad?
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Is he based in Hydrabad?
He is based in Pune, has many lovely Rolls.
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He is based in Pune, has many lovely Rolls.
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One of his RR was Silver Wraith #WVA76, a Hooper limousine, but I don't know the other one.
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The front hub carries a special rig for wheel discs. They consist of steel spokes which hold a large threaded ring in place - that's what is left here - and a ring nut which is screwed on it to press the disc against the wheel rim.
The spare wheel hub shows a non RR device which prevents the wheel to wobble in its well, the RR part has a chromed handle.
The rear wheel shows a perfectly standard RR hub.



The 1937 Phantom III with a cut steering wheel is 3CM37, now in the care of Johan Poonawalla. The steering wheel was not the only cut-off part, the roof was also sawn off to convert the saloon body into a tourer.



well i don't think then we are talking about the same car then.
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Hello Indrojit,
The car yopu are talking about is an open car, green in colour, WB? registered, belongs to a family which has Calcutta and Hyderabad connections. This has a "cut" steering wheel too. Today this car is lying in the Rolls showroom in worli.

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Hello Indrojit,
The car yopu are talking about is an open car, green in colour, WB? registered, belongs to a family which has Calcutta and Hyderabad connections. This has a "cut" steering wheel too. Today this car is lying in the Rolls showroom in worli.

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Yes that right i am talking about that family and that car which has a WB registration,green in colour and has a cut steering wheel as well.Well i didn't know that the car was lying in the rolls showroom in worli.Is that car sold or is the rolls showroom theirs?
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Where is THIS now?
A Rolls which participated in a rally in Delhi more than 10 years ago. The owner at that time was probably Mr. Ranjit and he told me that this was once a Lady Muckerjee's car.
Headlights appear to tilt forward.
And here is a photo of the car, rear view.

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Yes that right i am talking about that family and that car which has a WB registration,green in colour and has a cut steering wheel as well.Well i didn't know that the car was lying in the rolls showroom in worli.Is that car sold or is the rolls showroom theirs?

Here is the Rolls you were referring to. Note the 'cut' steering.
Picture taken from the Cartier thread, posted by D.K.Gir.

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Here is the Rolls you were referring to. Note the 'cut' steering.
Picture taken from the Cartier thread, posted by D.K.Gir.

Cheers harit

Yes that's right.This car has been like this for many years.The owner claims that it is unrestored.
Is this the car you were saying is lying in a rolls showroom in Mumbai?

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Was watching the movie Gandhi and spotted a silver/bluish 4 door tourer Rolls. Seemed larger than a 20/25 hp car. Regn. appeared to be BMW 2729. Familiar?
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Was watching the movie Gandhi and spotted a silver/bluish 4 door tourer Rolls. Seemed larger than a 20/25 hp car. Regn. appeared to be BMW 2729. Familiar?
No idea what had happened to that car and where she came from.
During the shooting of that movie, she was lying at Breach Candy Shyam Nivas with Mr. B ? Kripalani, a car wheeler and dealer who came back from Kuwait if I remember correctly. I had actually met him while I was in college! It will be very interesting to hear where this car landed up, because as far as we are concerned, she just disappeared from the face of India Suspicious, merits some follow up.
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Was watching the movie Gandhi and spotted a silver/bluish 4 door tourer Rolls. Seemed larger than a 20/25 hp car. Regn. appeared to be BMW 2729. Familiar?
Some experts seem to think this may be Chassis # GMK-5 ; Barker Tourer, now altered (1st owner B.J.Desai).

Pictures are courtesy of IMCDb.org: Home page

There is also a side profile in Post #906 of this thread. Cheers
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Yes that's right.This car has been like this for many years.The owner claims that it is unrestored.
Is this the car you were saying is lying in a rolls showroom in Mumbai?
Here are a few pictures posted earlier by Speedy & Julian (see Posts # 875-878 in this thread)
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Interesting that the car as delivered had a full round steering wheel
Classic Rolls Royces in India-india-rr-2530-gzr30-period.jpg
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Here are a few pictures posted earlier by Speedy & Julian (see Posts # 875-878 in this thread)



Interesting that the car as delivered had a full round steering wheel
Thankx.

Yes it did as i mentioned the previous owner was a short parsi Gentleman
who ordered the car with a half steering and i guess it was changed then if it was delivered witha full steering.He was short and could not look properly as the steering could be in his view.Well i think then we need to find out what exactly happened.
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