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Old 21st March 2011, 06:32   #1381
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Come on Kolkata, do none of you recognise that gent? He is still around!!!



Have all forgotton this Rolls? Hoping to get some info soon



Sometimes I cover deliberately, sometimes it just happens. Anytime you require something which I had covered please let me know.

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Could we try 1922 R-R Silver Ghost Chassis 14-RG by Windovers (original owner Raghlin Singh) ? This is from informed expert opinion. 14-RG is also shown on pg 236 of Those Elegant R-R. Cheers!
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Is that Mr S Ghosh ? In the pic


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I too loved this story and the ending.
While talking to Mr. Tagore, he told me that the family also had a Vauxhall Hurlingham. Here she is, apparently at the very same exhibition as the Ghost was. The setting is so similar. And this car too was with dealers who basically promoted exports. maybe someone will recognise the gent and the lady. They may be from Calcutta.
This was at the Statesman Rally in 1968. The car is of 1930, Vauxhall Hurlingham Sport
That was a lovely car and I do not know of another.
Slightly OT, but fits here.

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Is that Mr S Ghosh ? In the pic
Hmmm...I would say so yes!

On another note, there is a lovely 20 h.p. Rolls Royce Speedster (2 seater rumble seat) tucked away in the leafy confines of posh Alipore in Kolkata. Belongs to a famous family out there. Car is very intact; as a kid, whenever we passed by to go to my aunts house, I would be glad to see it parked in the porch of the house. Sadly, the old gent who owns the car is now too old, and the younger lot have kept is aside, covered by tarpaulin sheets. It looks identical to this Roller uploaded earlier by Travancore. I was always told that the Kolkata car was from the Darbangha fleet.





There is also another Rolls Royce Phantom III (Not the Ex Governor of Bombay car) , that belongs to the family of Sir R. N. Mookerjee and Sir Biren Mookerjee. Famous old house on Middleton Row. Have seen it, but she doesn't run. I believe a cracked carb is the cause. The current owner is a member, but rarely posts now days. Alsoi a Buick Super 8 in the same compound.


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Hmmm...I would say so yes!

On another note, there is a lovely 20 h.p. Rolls Royce Speedster (2 seater rumble seat) tucked away in the leafy confines of posh Alipore in Kolkata. Belongs to a famous family out there. There is also another Rolls Royce Phantom III (Not the Ex Governor of Bombay car) , that belongs to the family of Sir R. N. Mookerjee and Sir Biren Mookerjee. Famous old house on Middleton Row. Have seen it, but she doesn't run. I believe a cracked carb is the cause. The current owner is a member, but rarely posts now days. Alsoi a Buick Super 8 in the same compound. Regards Prithvi
No, but he was a Royalty.
Is that 20HP blue in colour? And was there a Lady Mookerjee who may have had a Rolls I poster quite earlier?

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No, but he was a Royalty.
Is that 20HP blue in colour? And was there a Lady Mookerjee who may have had a Rolls I poster quite earlier?

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The 20 h.p is cream. Lady Ranu Mookerjee was Sir Biren's wife, so yes, it was her car as well.

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The car I think you are referring to is Page 39, 1930 Rolls Royce, 20/25 hp of Mr Kejriwal in the book titled " The Maharajah and their Magnificent Motor Cars "

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The 20 h.p is cream. Lady Ranu Mookerjee was Sir Biren's wife, so yes, it was her car as well.

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The car I think you are referring to is Page 39, 1930 Rolls Royce, 20/25 hp of Mr Kejriwal in the book titled " The Maharajah and their Magnificent Motor Cars "

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That's right Kasli, the 20 h.p. is indeed owned by Mr. Kejriwal. He is a close relation (Jamai, I think) of the Birla's.


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Another ex-Maharaja car seems to have resurfaced. This time it is the wonderful Nandgaon Phantom II (Chassis 50-XJ). Car seems to have been sold by Gooding & Co at the Pebble Beach / Monterey Auction, 2010 for $ 770K.

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The first picture is from "The Motor", 1930.

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A little excerpt of its history from: Charles Crail Automobiles - (805) 568-1934


"On March 28, 1930, 50XJ was shipped to the official Rolls-Royce distributor in Bangalore from where it was collected by its aristocratic caretaker, a gentleman who is said to have had a great love of Rolls-Royce and Bentley automobiles. Over the years, the Phantom accumulated a mere 4,800 kilometers and was subsequently garaged in static storage until 1966 when Ray Howard discovered the car housed with representatives of the Maharaja in the State of Orissa. Fortunately for Mr. Howard, who was then working in India as an engineer, the Barker Torpedo was offered for sale despite reports that it was the favored car and the crown jewel of the Maharajah's collection."
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Another ex-Maharaja car seems to have resurfaced. This time it is the wonderful Nandgaon Phantom II (Chassis 50-XJ). Car seems to have been sold by Gooding & Co at the Pebble Beach / Monterey Auction, 2010 for $ 770K.
Nice find, Travancore. i am waiting for a book to be published on ALL the Maharaja Rolls ever.

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Nice find, Travancore. i am waiting for a book to be published on ALL the Maharaja Rolls ever.

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Hopefully John Fasal's next masterpiece "R-R in Princely India" will be published one day, soon!

The link also describes how the car left India, along with a PIII.

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Another ex-Maharaja car seems to have resurfaced. This time it is the wonderful Nandgaon Phantom II (Chassis 50-XJ). Car seems to have been sold by Gooding & Co at the Pebble Beach / Monterey Auction, 2010 for $ 770K.

Pictures below show the source / attribution on them.

The first picture is from "The Motor", 1930.

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A little excerpt of its history from: Charles Crail Automobiles - (805) 568-1934


"On March 28, 1930, 50XJ was shipped to the official Rolls-Royce distributor in Bangalore from where it was collected by its aristocratic caretaker, a gentleman who is said to have had a great love of Rolls-Royce and Bentley automobiles. Over the years, the Phantom accumulated a mere 4,800 kilometers and was subsequently garaged in static storage until 1966 when Ray Howard discovered the car housed with representatives of the Maharaja in the State of Orissa. Fortunately for Mr. Howard, who was then working in India as an engineer, the Barker Torpedo was offered for sale despite reports that it was the favored car and the crown jewel of the Maharajah's collection."
Nice find, thanks for sharing.

I have a doubt though - Nandgaon was a state in present day Maharashtra, how come the car was delivered to Bangalore, and then discovered in Orissa? Orissa I can understand change of ownership, but why delivery to Bangalore?
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Nice find, thanks for sharing.

I have a doubt though - Nandgaon was a state in present day Maharashtra, how come the car was delivered to Bangalore, and then discovered in Orissa? Orissa I can understand change of ownership, but why delivery to Bangalore?
I had my doubts too. As far as I know, the major R-R distributors were in Bombay and/or Delhi depending on the time frame. Maybe, the Maharaja had it delivered on race day at the race course!

You also notice the "ORC" registration. Maybe, at one point it went to Mayurbhanj or some other state in Orissa ???? Cheers
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You also notice the "ORC" registration. Maybe, at one point it went to Mayurbhanj or some other state in Orissa ???? Cheers
ORC would be a Cuttack regn. in Orissa, unless I'm mistaken.
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Harit,

Here are some pictures of the car.

Any history on this car would be greatly appreciated.

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Congrats on the purchase. Can you please post a picture of the car today? Does she still have those excess Grebel lights? Please post a picture, and we shall revert.

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Harit,

Here are some pictures of the car.

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