Alert - Fake JBL products (Amps, Speakers, Subs...) - Team-BHP

Sam Kapasi · 12th June 2006, 11:45

Dear All,

This amp is counterfeit. If any of you have bought it with a bill - kindly notify me. Thanks.

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low_bass_makker · 12th June 2006, 12:03

Good lord first it was alpines now there are jbls also......

Man this is bad...........

Must sue these type of people who make fake products........

amitoj · 12th June 2006, 12:04

Its the distance between the triangle and the circle on the JBL logo in the second pic thats a dead giveaway that its a fake, right??

passion4cars · 12th June 2006, 12:06

Its really a sad case....... fakes...of what nots .... right from fakes oil filters to fuel pumps to amp...to adulterated petrol....engine oil.....and now amp's..... guess the day is not far wen v will ve fake cars

)

Sam Kapasi · 12th June 2006, 12:06

Yeah Amitoj,

That and many more signs.

navin · 12th June 2006, 12:18

this is the original P-4020 amp....
http://manuals.harman.com/JBL/CAR/Ow...P4020%20om.pdf

Autophile · 12th June 2006, 12:45

Sam this is very much a original JBL Power Series amplifier, but an old model. Used couple of them in the past. This is a P-4020 2ch, also there was P-4040 4ch model.

This is a grey market product. It should not be sold with JBL bill & warranty.

kb100 · 12th June 2006, 13:16

.. BU fromt eh link Navin posted those amps look LOOooNG ... the snap that Sam has posted the amp look rather abreviateed! - So am inclined to think Sam is right...!1

That Orange of the logo also seems to have "Bled" badly.... you can see the runoffs clearly.. !

Autophile · 12th June 2006, 13:34

KB100,

The bigger picture on the owner manual is of P-4040 the 4 ch version, P-4020 2ch amp was smaller in size (194mm L vs 347 mm of 4040)

These amplifier were designed by Manny Rodriguez (Principal Design Engineer Power Amplifiers, Harman International)

He has designed products for Harman, Infinity, JBL, Alpine, Eclipse etc.

low_bass_makker · 12th June 2006, 14:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autophile

KB100,
These amplifier were designed by Manny Rodriguez (Principal Design Engineer Power Amplifiers, Harman International)

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0735415/
Is this is the same person............

or

http://www.apsdc.com/Manny%20Experience.htm

amit_sound · 12th June 2006, 14:57

Thanks for warning, Sam

Sam Kapasi · 12th June 2006, 16:32

JB....

The P4020 was discontinued 5 or 6 years ago. And please look at the finish of the PARTICULAR amplifier i've shot. My point is very clear - there is STOCK of a badly finished P4020, this isn't one piece I'm talking about. There's retail quantities.

navin · 12th June 2006, 16:43

1. Sam represents JBL so I'm not inclined to bet against him when it comes to JBL products
2. No reputed manufacturer would sell such a shoddily made product as shown in Sam's photo. If they did they would not have much of a reputation anymore.

rareone · 12th June 2006, 16:50

Thanx Sam for the updates.

Hope u will keep us protected from the Nakli world of JBL

One more thing are only Duplicate JBL Amps flooded in the market or more stuffs also.

Plz Update
Thanx

panky12345 · 19th August 2007, 10:33

sorry for going OT:

SAM, is this place "CARMAN" in Paschim Vihar, Delhi?

12th June 2006, 11:45	#1 (permalink)
Sam Kapasi Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Delhi (but watch this space) Posts: 6,835 View My Garage	Alert - Fake JBL products (Amps, Speakers, Subs...) Dear All, This amp is counterfeit. If any of you have bought it with a bill - kindly notify me. Thanks. __________________ Live the YetiLife® *MA-DONNA! MA-DONNA! MA-DONNA!* Last edited by Rehaan : 8th July 2008 at 08:44. Reason: Transferred images to TBHP where script failed to do so.

12th June 2006, 12:03	#2 (permalink)
low_bass_makker Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Faridabad Posts: 5,749 View My Garage	Good lord first it was alpines now there are jbls also...... Man this is bad........... Must sue these type of people who make fake products........ __________________ If you are good at something do not do it for free !!!!

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amitoj BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 705 View My Garage	Its the distance between the triangle and the circle on the JBL logo in the second pic thats a dead giveaway that its a fake, right?? __________________ All things move toward their end... All things move towards their end

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Sam Kapasi Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Delhi (but watch this space) Posts: 6,835 View My Garage	Yeah Amitoj, That and many more signs. __________________ Live the YetiLife® *MA-DONNA! MA-DONNA! MA-DONNA!*

12th June 2006, 12:18	#6 (permalink)
navin Team-BHP Moderator Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: mumbai Posts: 11,791	this is the original P-4020 amp.... http://manuals.harman.com/JBL/CAR/Ow...P4020%20om.pdf __________________ Scixelsyd Etinu

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passion4cars BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 56	Its really a sad case....... fakes...of what nots .... right from fakes oil filters to fuel pumps to amp...to adulterated petrol....engine oil.....and now amp's..... guess the day is not far wen v will ve fake cars )

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Autophile BANNED Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Delhi Posts: 948	Sam this is very much a original JBL Power Series amplifier, but an old model. Used couple of them in the past. This is a P-4020 2ch, also there was P-4040 4ch model. This is a grey market product. It should not be sold with JBL bill & warranty.

12th June 2006, 13:16	#8 (permalink)
kb100 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: KONKAN RAILWAY!! Posts: 1,302	.. BU fromt eh link Navin posted those amps look LOOooNG ... the snap that Sam has posted the amp look rather abreviateed! - So am inclined to think Sam is right...!1 That Orange of the logo also seems to have "Bled" badly.... you can see the runoffs clearly.. ! __________________ *A closed mouth gathers no Feet.* Last edited by kb100 : 12th June 2006 at 13:17.

12th June 2006, 13:34	#9 (permalink)
Autophile BANNED Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Delhi Posts: 948	KB100, The bigger picture on the owner manual is of P-4040 the 4 ch version, P-4020 2ch amp was smaller in size (194mm L vs 347 mm of 4040) These amplifier were designed by Manny Rodriguez (Principal Design Engineer Power Amplifiers, Harman International) He has designed products for Harman, Infinity, JBL, Alpine, Eclipse etc.

12th June 2006, 14:57	#11 (permalink)
amit_sound BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 546	Thanks for warning, Sam

12th June 2006, 16:32	#12 (permalink)
Sam Kapasi Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Delhi (but watch this space) Posts: 6,835 View My Garage	JB.... The P4020 was discontinued 5 or 6 years ago. And please look at the finish of the PARTICULAR amplifier i've shot. My point is very clear - there is STOCK of a badly finished P4020, this isn't one piece I'm talking about. There's retail quantities. __________________ Live the YetiLife® *MA-DONNA! MA-DONNA! MA-DONNA!* Last edited by Sam Kapasi : 12th June 2006 at 16:34.

12th June 2006, 16:43	#13 (permalink)
navin Team-BHP Moderator Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: mumbai Posts: 11,791	1. Sam represents JBL so I'm not inclined to bet against him when it comes to JBL products 2. No reputed manufacturer would sell such a shoddily made product as shown in Sam's photo. If they did they would not have much of a reputation anymore. __________________ Scixelsyd Etinu

12th June 2006, 16:50	#14 (permalink)
rareone BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Navi Mumbai Posts: 230 View My Garage	Thanx Sam for the updates. Hope u will keep us protected from the Nakli world of JBL One more thing are only Duplicate JBL Amps flooded in the market or more stuffs also. Plz Update Thanx __________________ ...

19th August 2007, 10:33	#15 (permalink)
panky12345 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 1,407	sorry for going OT: SAM, is this place "CARMAN" in Paschim Vihar, Delhi? __________________ Yehi hota hai toh aakhir yahi hota kyun hai??

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