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Old 10th March 2018, 01:28   #1
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The ISIHMA (ISI Helmet Manufactures Association) have backed a move by Indian policy makers to ban non-ISI marked helmets throughout the country - as per a report in ZigWheels on 9th March, 2018.

While the move aims to curtail the sale of unsafe and cheap helmets in the country, it clearly points to the lobbyists getting their way - since there is no mention about approval for the usage of ECE, SNELL & DOT certified helmets.

Though these international testing standards are far more demanding than the ISI standards, the law will make riders with undoubtedly safe helmets to be at the mercy of unscrupulous cops who can take advantage of the lack of clarity in the policy.

After the regrettable incidents faced by riders in Karnataka recently, one wonders what the days ahead will hold for those who have invested good money on high quality helmets.

It is at times like these the Indian motorcycling community must come together to do what it can to ensure that laws are enforced with a real intent of safety, rather than regressive agendas.
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While the move aims to curtail the sale of unsafe and cheap helmets in the country, it clearly points to the lobbyists getting their way - since there is no mention about approval for the usage of ECE, SNELL & DOT certified helmets.
Overall a good move by the Indian goverment. Let's see how it gets implemented though.

Yes it is a concern that there is no mention of ECE, SNELL and DOT certified helmets. It'll be stupid and regressive if they were to put some ban or stay order on this.

However I'm hoping that doesn't happen. Someone from ISI please speak up and educate the government.
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That is a lobby at work in all it's splendor for you! But I don't see what is the problem for the importers to apply and get ISI certification for their helmets, without sneering at the organization. Must not bee too difficult. If you can't beat them, join them!
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Fair enough. If their motive is so noble, I hope they have the guts to go after the manufacturers and sellers of those cheap 100 rupee helmets all over the roads with the same enthusiasm they plan to go after riders wearing high-end helmets that conform to global standards but don't have the ISI mark.

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But I don't see what is the problem for the importers to apply and get ISI certification for their helmets, without sneering at the organization. Must not bee too difficult. If you can't beat them, join them!
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In the long run, this is the most viable solution. Non-Indian manufacturers simply have to get the ISI certification. Rest assured this lobby will make them aware of Indian bureaucracy and red-tapism in its finest glory!
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That is a lobby at work in all it's splendor for you! But I don't see what is the problem for the importers to apply and get ISI certification for their helmets, without sneering at the organization.
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Non-Indian manufacturers simply have to get the ISI certification. Rest assured this lobby will make them aware of Indian bureaucracy and red-tapism in its finest glory!
Well, this may turn out to be similar to ISI compliance for tyres few years back. However, not all foreign helmet manufacturers have their office(s) in India unlike Tyre manufacturers. Most DOT/ECE/Snell certified helmets are imported by some entity & sold via their distribution channels. Only time will tell if these importers unite & influence policy makers. It also depends on volume & growth in this area.
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It is the ridiculousness of the policy execution that gets to me. Fine, so they want to axe the cheap/unsafe helmet markets.

But in the process, why not ensure clarity in specifying that helmets with international standards are acceptable?

Why have loopholes and ambiguity to allow some of the rogue cops in the police force to use the policy for extortion?

One can imagine what such cops would demand based on how premium the motorcycles are.
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To give the authorities a benefit of doubt:
If possible, it would be far easier to identify if a helmet is ISI certified - if the sticker/labels are fake or not. But the same cannot be said about DOT, ECE, SNELL. How would the cops or authorities know if cheap helmets carry the DOT, ECE or SNELL stickers?

However, that still doesn't mean that the genuine lids need to be fined. I mean imagine being fined for using a Rs 10,000+ SNELL helmet while the Rs 1,000 Vega/Studds/Steelbird-open-face-helmet-guy rides past you.
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That is a lobby at work in all it's splendor for you! But I don't see what is the problem for the importers to apply and get ISI certification for their helmets, without sneering at the organization. Must not bee too difficult. If you can't beat them, join them!
The issue with your point is that not all of us buy the imported helmets in India. We may buy them abroad while travelling, or may also order online from abroad. In such cases, those pieces will not have the ISI mark displayed.

The ideal and smart solution would be to include a list of acceptable certifications including ISI; and as long as at least one of those certifications is present, the helmet should be considered legal.

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The way this will work is
a. the "cheap" helmet makers will put a 10 paise ISI mark, the inspectors of the appointed regulatory agency (if not RTO) will get one more source of steady income
b. the police will get slightly more 'hafta' from road-side vendors
c. as usual people like us with actual safe helmets will end up being penalized
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Well, the BIS which issues the ISI mark recently told the Bengaluru Traffic Police that enforcement of this rule wont be possible on the field due to the police not having the competency to judge whether the helmet has a genuine ISI mark or a fake one. The correct procedure in this case is to send the helmet to BIS who will then provide a report. Hence, in such a situation, either these Non ISI helmets are now bound to get confiscated by the police, and selling them might invite legal action. However, I think they can only enforce the ban by preventing the sale of cheap helmets. The expensive helmet distribution network will anyway not let go of this easily and will find a workaround or an amendment to the rule. How can they let go of the business of selling expensive helmets which also mean bigger margins.
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In the long run, this is the most viable solution. Non-Indian manufacturers simply have to get the ISI certification. Rest assured this lobby will make them aware of Indian bureaucracy and red-tapism in its finest glory!
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Well, this may turn out to be similar to ISI compliance for tyres few years back. However, not all foreign helmet manufacturers have their office(s) in India unlike Tyre manufacturers. Most DOT/ECE/Snell certified helmets are imported by some entity & sold via their distribution channels. Only time will tell if these importers unite & influence policy makers. It also depends on volume & growth in this area.
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The ideal and smart solution would be to include a list of acceptable certifications including ISI; and as long as at least one of those certifications is present, the helmet should be considered legal.
Well! Ideally, ISIHMA should look at what the objective of the drive is rather than screaming out for only ISI marked helmets.

If they are going to be stubborn with ISI as the benchmark; it would really be unfair on the superior tested helmet brands with DOT, ECE or SNELL certifications.

However, as I see it if the Indian market is a big portfolio for these brands an ISI testing and certification should not be a big thing technically and commercially.

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Hence, in such a situation, either these Non ISI helmets are now bound to get confiscated by the police, and selling them might invite legal action.
On a lighter note : This is too funny - Imagine the cops running around bikers and confiscating the helmets and then issuing riding without helmet challan!!. They will be needing to tote bags/containers to dump these "confiscated" helmets.

On a more serious note, not sure how the logistics of this implementation is ever going to happen. Most likely, this will also die a slow death like that of 10 year old vehicle ban, etc.
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